Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Barbie619]

Oh wow, didn’t know, just came across it.

Freakin crazy. There he was the whole time, it possibly appears.

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Eta: wait a minute, across from Shannan’s remains? Is that an error?

Excellent observation. Shannan was not found on Ocean Parkway, she was found near PH's house in the marsh. It's not a place where you can just drive through either. It's a gate community and what are the chances that a serial killer was in that community at 4-5 in the morning, picked her up, killed her, and then walked through those marshes to dump her. There's only 2 people that saw SG before she disappeared, and then PH put himself into the story. What a pinhead PH is.

 

[Ruminations]

She qualified and is receiving Medicade but she was denied food stamps. Is there a difference state to state?

Yes- and different sets of rules between the programs. But she should always get a denial in writing and check the facts attached to the reason for denial. Nobody should be told no verbally.

 

[Sundog]

She needs to take her 40k money, go stay in Iceland with her family, and let her lawyers settle the divorce. Bonus - the healthcare in Iceland is probably cheaper and more accessible. MOO

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Her family is here. This is her home. And her children's home. Her father lives nearby. And her sister lives here.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

It comes as online court records show that Ms Ellerup, who has been married to the accused serial killer’s wife for two decades, filed a matrimonial complaint in Suffolk County Supreme Court. The filing – titled Asa Ellerup v Rex Heuermann – states that the divorce is “uncontested”.

Link: Rex Heuermann’s wife’s reaction to Gilgo Beach murders revealed amid divorce filing

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I try very hard not to judge people who find themselves in very traumatic circumstances through no fault of their own. All of these families are victims. I see nothing positive in putting them all on a scale to try to determine who's pain is greater.

That said, I do not believe the attorneys for AE and her children did them any favors by holding this press conference yesterday. And I respectfully wish that John Ray would crawl back under whatever rock he emerged from.

All MOO

I agree with you completely.

 

[iamshadow21]

It comes as online court records show that Ms Ellerup, who has been married to the accused serial killer’s wife for two decades, filed a matrimonial complaint in Suffolk County Supreme Court. The filing – titled Asa Ellerup v Rex Heuermann – states that the divorce is “uncontested”.

Link: Rex Heuermann’s wife’s reaction to Gilgo Beach murders revealed amid divorce filing

RBBM

Someone didn't proofread before clicking post over at The Independent...

MOO

 

[Barbie619]

These sleuths are incredible detectives I am stunned at some of these finds and accurate guesses. That is why for sure I know that if the tip from AC roommate Dave was shared with the public these sleuths would have found RH in 2?days with the car and his description.

I completely agree. What the public didn't know for years after the girls were found was that the SCPD was so corrupt that they barely investigated these crimes. He had 13 years more of freedom and I hope no one else died in that time period.

 

[Sundog]

I try very hard not to judge people who find themselves in very traumatic circumstances through no fault of their own. All of these families are victims. I see nothing positive in putting them all on a scale to try to determine who's pain is greater.

That said, I do not believe the attorneys for AE and her children did them any favors by holding this press conference yesterday. And I respectfully wish that John Ray would crawl back under whatever rock he emerged from.

All MOO

I, too, agree completely.
Well said.

 

[Forest_Wood]

It comes as online court records show that Ms Ellerup, who has been married to the accused serial killer’s wife for two decades, filed a matrimonial complaint in Suffolk County Supreme Court. The filing – titled Asa Ellerup v Rex Heuermann – states that the divorce is “uncontested”.

Link: Rex Heuermann’s wife’s reaction to Gilgo Beach murders revealed amid divorce filing

It's incredible to me that they found several hairs of AE on the victims yet only one piece of DNA from him from all 4 of the girls. They found more secondary DNA than primary. What does one have to do to not get DNA on victims ... cover himself from head to toe?

 

[WINDSOR]

Regarding John Ray's accusations of AE's involvement in RH's activities.

A lot of people are disgusted with John Ray for that. Bearing in mind John Ray has been pretty accurate in his opinions all along, I just ask one question of the wives out their on this forum.

If you were in AE's situation would you also be totally unaware of everything RH was doing?

 

[Barbie619]

Yes, with several mobile dumpsters and even several workers. I read it yesterday, but where did I?

This is freaking me out. I heard or read about it earlier in the week and never saw it discussed here. As the days have passed I started thinking I was imagining the whole thing or that I just had a bad dream about it. LOL This case is moving so quickly that it kind of does start to get into one's head.

 

[iamshadow21]

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They seem from the PCA to have very good data information for Megan, Melissa, and Amber (less, sadly, for Maureen because of the passage of time). I would expect that if there was information linking RH to SG - phone calls, etc. - it could be determined. If AE was out of area, that would be able to be determined, too. SG went missing the month before Megan did, so she's still easily in the window when the data still remains if contact was made. If such contact exists, the task force would be aware of the significance of that, even if Shannan's death is not connected to her contact with RH. They're talking to living sex workers and living former sex workers for a reason. Those people survived their contact with RH, and the trick may have been completely conventional, no red flags, but they still want to sit down with them and get as much information as they can.

MOO

 

[Sundog]

Regarding John Ray's accusations of AE's involvement in RH's activities.

A lot of people are disgusted with John Ray for that. Bearing in mind John Ray has been pretty accurate in his opinions all along, I just ask one question of the wives out their on this forum.

If you were in AE's situation would you also be totally unaware of everything RH was doing?

AE is a victim.

 

[Barbie619]

Regarding John Ray's accusations of AE's involvement in RH's activities.

A lot of people are disgusted with John Ray for that. Bearing in mind John Ray has been pretty accurate in his opinions all along, I just ask one question of the wives out their on this forum.

If you were in AE's situation would you also be totally unaware of everything RH was doing?

I believe I would notice a change in his behavior but I would eventually question the changes. I'm not sure I would be thinking SK but maybe cheating behavior. But as a mother who had a special needs child, I'd probably dismiss too because I would be too overwhelmed with taking care of my child. However she may not have noticed initially because he was committing his crimes while she was away with her kids, so he would have time to get back into his normal routine before she returned. Interesting question though.

ETA: Up until yesterday I had some respect for John Ray, but all he said yesterday angered me completely. This case doesn't involve him at all. Why would a credible witness not go to the police first? It's like throwing spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks. To this day I don't think anyone really knows what happen to SG or the other victim's located and that is so tragic to me. I don't believe for one second that AE is in on those crimes or lying about her present situation. I understand why some family members of the victim's may be angry right now about AE, but it doesn't change the fact that she is also a victim in another way too of RH. John Ray needs to shut his pie hole.

 

[iamshadow21]

It's incredible to me that they found several hairs of AE on the victims yet only one piece of DNA from him from all 4 of the girls. They found more secondary DNA than primary. What does one have to do to not get DNA on victims ... cover himself from head to toe?

There are a bunch of factors to note, here.
* The time the girls lay in a harsh environment, exposed to the elements
* The fact that most, if not all the girls would have been skeletal by the time they were found
* The progression of science surrounding DNA since the girls were found. They can get full profiles with rootless hair, degraded samples, mixed samples, minute samples, which was future science or hit and miss in 2010.

We also don't know what he did postmortem to try and erase his DNA from them, such as washing the bodies or using chemicals such as bleach.

MOO

 

[Teche]

Will LE announce to eliminate Rex's wife as a suspect in this case? Since John Ray's providing a statement that she could be an accomplice due to her DNA (strands of hair) being found at the crime scene.

It’s odd that LE hasn’t had an in-depth interview with the family. As a family member, I would schedule an interview and polygraph so that I could be cleared and LE could move forward.

 

[Sundog]

This is freaking me out. I heard or read about it earlier in the week and never saw it discussed here. As the days have passed I started thinking I was imagining the whole thing or that I just had a bad dream about it. LOL This case is moving so quickly that it kind of does start to get into one's head.

AE's attorney, Robert Macdonio, said in an interview on NewsNation that one of his client's donated dumpsters and five men donated their time to help AE and her family clean up the mess at her house. The video interview was posted here on this thread last week by OP. Here is the link, and the discussion with AE's attorney starts at around 1:57 mark.

 

[Forest_Wood]

There are a bunch of factors to note, here.
* The time the girls lay in a harsh environment, exposed to the elements
* The fact that most, if not all the girls would have been skeletal by the time they were found
* The progression of science surrounding DNA since the girls were found. They can get full profiles with rootless hair, degraded samples, mixed samples, minute samples, which was future science or hit and miss in 2010.

We also don't know what he did postmortem to try and erase his DNA from them, such as washing the bodies or using chemicals such as bleach.

MOO

Thank you!

 

[CuriousCricket]

Regarding John Ray's accusations of AE's involvement in RH's activities.

A lot of people are disgusted with John Ray for that. Bearing in mind John Ray has been pretty accurate in his opinions all along, I just ask one question of the wives out their on this forum.

If you were in AE's situation would you also be totally unaware of everything RH was doing?

yep. I was married for more than 15 years to a very secretive, emotionally abusive man. We've been divorced more than 30 years and just a couple of months ago I had an epiphany/ understanding of something I had railed about for years. Who knows how long it will be before AE starts adding the pieces up in her head and having any understanding. If her mind and memory are anything like mine, little pieces start being remembered and eventually fit into the understanding of what something probably meant. ETA: After years, you understand not to believe anything he says, but other than knowing it for sure WAS NOT what you're told, you probably won't know what he is doing. I did get to the place where I was following him, or driving by where he was supposed to be and never was. He would refuse to provide any answers. Oh, and sometimes they will tell you something, but the argument and focus of the conversation is another area, which you focus on, and the telling remark is shoved aside until a memory resurfaces - if that makes any sense.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

RH might have stalked his future victims, not only Shannan perhaps. There could have been a mixture of coincidences. I can imagine him being inquisitive and sneaky, not only have been interested in one single meeting per SW. Maybe, it was fun for him also, to find out other clients, living on LI? Spying on other clients would also have given him a sense of power.

I don't think he had to "spy". I think he was a regular customer of the women he chose as his victims. Hyped himself up as a bigshot architect, paid them well, and treated them well...until he didn't. What better way to get a girl to let her guard down than to be a regular, reliable, safe and easy customer ?