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Could you imagine if your friend or sister that you didn't your childhood with in CT, whose children you are raising, (and have questions of their own), turning to the media to find out if a search yielded the evidence so the primary suspect could be charged, and instead you find complaints that the searched property is a mess?



MOO

I would be LIVID!
 
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<modsnip - opinion stated as fact> Physically I see a beautiful woman down to one that just doesn’t care anymore. Pictures tell a story. In 25 years I believe he was a horrible husband to her. Maybe she and her daughter will tell us in a book.
<modsnip> She's already stated through her lawyer that she had no inkling of anything amiss in her 27 years of marriage (and who knows how long they knew each other before marriage). What would you propose the topic of this book might be?
 
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Alicia Adams, a 22-year-old sex worker, was found naked and mummified in the brush about two months after she was last seen in April 2013 near the Imperial Hotel in East New York, Brooklyn. Sex workers are known to operate in this area. Adams was the mother of two little girls.

The retired cop has wondered if South Conduit turned into a dumping ground after the 2010 discovery of four women’s bodies in the brush off Ocean Parkway in Gilgo Beach.

Architect Rex Heuermann, who has an office in Manhattan, has pleaded not guilty in three of the murders he was charged with.

The investigator remembered two cadaver dogs separately hitting another spot in the woods on South Conduit Avenue


“I think this area could have been looked at with cadaver dogs further,” the retired detective said. “I think that there’s a strong possibility there could be more victims here.”

The retired cop pointed out that Adams was missing the hyoid bone in her neck and 13 teeth.

“We didn’t know if she was choked,” the investigator said.

Started thread..
 
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In moo I think there's more victims that the lisk killed
 
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<modsnip> She's already stated through her lawyer that she had no inkling of anything amiss in her 27 years of marriage (and who knows how long they knew each other before marriage). What would you propose the topic of this book might be?

Some spouses in unhealthy relationships are accustomed to the dynamic and over time they believe it’s normal. An indirect passive aggressive approach to wearing the victim spouse down by letting it happen without any regard for her and the marriage.

She could be an example of this type of gaslighting. After deprogramming from a life with him she may eventually have a different perspective. Things could mentally come to the surface that were subconsciously suppressed. A book can be therapeutic and helpful to other silenced individuals.
 
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I most agree with this sentiment. And fear that some recent topics and discussions are driving others away or afar.

The fact of the matter is there isn’t much actual “news” right now in the primary facts of the case. In my opinion, there’s no point trying to control what other people are going to post about during an information lull like this, assuming it falls within the site’s posting rules. If one wants conversation on topic “B” rather than topic “A”, it’s better to just create conversational opportunities about topic “B”. Shaming people for discussing topic “A” just draws more attention to it.

JMO.
 
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The retired cop pointed out that Adams was missing the hyoid bone in her neck and 13 teeth.

“We didn’t know if she was choked,” the investigator said.

[Snipped/BBM] Very interesting. Look at this:

Felicita Figueroa... spent more than 30 years believing her aunt might have been a victim of serial killer Joel Rifkin, until [RH] was arrested ..,
... her 29-year-old aunt, Carmen Vargas, was dumped on the side of the Meadowbrook Parkway in the summer of 1989. The location is roughly 8 miles from the house where Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo killer, was raised and where his family still lives. “She was really little,” Figueroa said of her petite aunt. “She walked the streets.”

Figueroa showed PIX11 News the image of her aunt’s skull, which was missing some teeth. She asked the detective about it.“He said ‘whatever happened that night, she fought,'” Figueroa said. “Because three of her teeth were knocked out.” Figueroa also said that a portion of her aunt’s hyoid bone was missing in her neck."

 
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rbbm.
BY DANIEL DE VISÉ 08/30/23
''Rex Heuermann, a Long Island architect arrested this summer in the highly publicized Gilgo Beach murders, may go down as one of last in a vanishing species of American criminal.

Hundreds of serial killers roamed the nation in the 1980s and 1990s, captivating the public imagination and inspiring such popular culture brands as the film “Silence of the Lambs” and the television series “Dexter.”

''The number of victims dropped from 404 in 1987 to an estimated 36 in 2019, according to researchers at Radford and Florida Gulf Coast universities. They cautioned that the latest number may be low, however, because of the lag time in identifying serial killers. ''

“Organized killers, they like to read about serial killers,” Hargrove said. “And they are paying attention, and they are aware that the science has gotten way better, and they recognize that they’re taking ever-increasing risks by doing what they do.”
Forensic science has become so accurate and fine tuned that, in my opinion, once the authorities have a name and start checking on a person, if that person has done anything, it CAN be found. That should be daunting enough to stop most people.
 
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rbbm.
BY DANIEL DE VISÉ 08/30/23
''Rex Heuermann, a Long Island architect arrested this summer in the highly publicized Gilgo Beach murders, may go down as one of last in a vanishing species of American criminal.

Hundreds of serial killers roamed the nation in the 1980s and 1990s, captivating the public imagination and inspiring such popular culture brands as the film “Silence of the Lambs” and the television series “Dexter.”

''The number of victims dropped from 404 in 1987 to an estimated 36 in 2019, according to researchers at Radford and Florida Gulf Coast universities. They cautioned that the latest number may be low, however, because of the lag time in identifying serial killers. ''

“Organized killers, they like to read about serial killers,” Hargrove said. “And they are paying attention, and they are aware that the science has gotten way better, and they recognize that they’re taking ever-increasing risks by doing what they do.”


The presence of surveillance cameras has made it more difficult for such predators to hunt. Phone tracking technology is also making it easier for police to capture killers before they kill again.

“It was common in the ‘70s and ‘80s to hitchhike; we know how vulnerable people are when they get into somebody's car,” she continues.
 
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'Aug 30, 2023
The clue that led police to the alleged Long Island Serial Killer was in their files for 13 years before being revived and leading to the arrest of Rex Heuermann. Nancy Grace speaks with Rob Trotta, former Suffolk County Police officer and current Long Island Legislator about how years of alleged police problems and corruption caused delays in finding the man police say killed at least 3 women and likely more.'
 
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“I am incredibly passionate about this story and am grateful to Netflix for supporting the continuation of my work in remembering Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes and also Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of the Gilgo Beach victims, and the other potentially connected cases.”

 
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I will say what others may not. It is my opinion only. Please consider the source. This is a person who filed a claim and is currently trying to receive a settlement. The best thing that could happen would be to learn that LE PHOTOGRAPHED that home as it was when they entered it because I believe maybe 1/10th of what I've been seeing. It seems to get more and more ramped up.

This is MOO.

ETA: After I made this post I came to see that some other have in fact said the same.

I just had a thought about this.

As many have said, of course LE photographed everything, did a video walk though, continued photographing and videoing their progress as they scraped their way through layers of possessions, looking for evidence.

The photos themselves may contain evidence to murder, of course.

But the same photos may also contain proof that LE is not responsible for needlessly soiling the house.

Yet the same photos may contain evidence for murder.

It could be a very long time before all discovery is shared. It could be very valuable to Rex's defense to see those photos asap. Plus photos of what was NOT damaged, thus revealing evidence of a hiding place not found by LE.

When would these photos be exchanged? Why, in discovery for a lawsuit such as that Macedonia is setting up now, with a notice of claim.

Hmmmm. I'm wondering if Spota's pal Macedonia is really there to support Spota in suppressing evidence.

MOO
 
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Please continue here.
 
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In an interview for the movie’s premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in 2020,Garbus said she hoped “Lost Girls” could bring renewed attention to the case. “I’m hopeful it might be solved,” she said. In February 2022, a task force was formed to investigate the murders, which eventually led to the arrest of Heuermann.

Garbus’ company Story Syndicate, which she founded with her husband, filmmaker Dan Cogan, will produce the docuseries. According to Netflix’s release, “The series will foreground the stories of the victims’ lives, with exclusive access to their families, and examine the history of the police investigation and recent breakthroughs that led to the identification of Rex Heuermann, who had been hiding in suburban Long Island in plain sight.”

“With the arrest of suspect Rex Heuermann on July 13 of this year, a new chapter began in the decades-old investigation of the missing and murdered women found in Gilgo Beach and beyond. And yet, just as some questions start being answered, new ones emerge,” Garbus says, going on to then list the victims. “I am incredibly passionate about this story and am grateful to Netflix for supporting the continuation of my work in remembering Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes and also Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of the Gilgo Beach victims, and the other potentially connected cases.”
 
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In an interview for the movie’s premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in 2020,Garbus said she hoped “Lost Girls” could bring renewed attention to the case. “I’m hopeful it might be solved,” she said. In February 2022, a task force was formed to investigate the murders, which eventually led to the arrest of Heuermann.

Garbus’ company Story Syndicate, which she founded with her husband, filmmaker Dan Cogan, will produce the docuseries. According to Netflix’s release, “The series will foreground the stories of the victims’ lives, with exclusive access to their families, and examine the history of the police investigation and recent breakthroughs that led to the identification of Rex Heuermann, who had been hiding in suburban Long Island in plain sight.”

“With the arrest of suspect Rex Heuermann on July 13 of this year, a new chapter began in the decades-old investigation of the missing and murdered women found in Gilgo Beach and beyond. And yet, just as some questions start being answered, new ones emerge,” Garbus says, going on to then list the victims. “I am incredibly passionate about this story and am grateful to Netflix for supporting the continuation of my work in remembering Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes and also Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of the Gilgo Beach victims, and the other potentially connected cases.”

This is great news! She did a great job with her previous "Lost Girls" docu-film. There was so much factual information packed into it. It also helped NY LE re-focus on solving the murders. The fact they're starting this documentary, JMO, indicates they feel the police and DA may be correct in prosecuting Rex Heuermann.
 
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Re-freshers..
JULY 14, 2023
''«MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE, in violation of New York State Penal Law Section 125.25(1), a class A-1 violent felony for the death of Amber Costello on or about September 2, 2010. As described below, based on the serious, heinous natureof these serial murders, the planning and forethought that went into these crimes, the strength of the People’s case, the length of incarceration the defendant faces upon conviction, the extended period of time that this Defendant was able to avoid apprehension, his recent searches for sadistic materials, child pomography, images of the victims and their relatives, counter-surveillance. conducted online as to the criminal investigation, his use of fictitious names, burner email and cellphone accounts, and his access to and history of possessing firearms, the only means to ensure Defendant Rex A. Heuermann’s retum to courts to remand him without bail.''

'Jul 20, 2023 Law&Crime Sidebar Podcast
Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann had some odd items in his home that investigators bagged as evidence to prove their case in court. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber analyzes each piece of the puzzle with Jules Epstein, a criminal law and evidence professor at Temple University Beasley School of Law'
 
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This is great news! She did a great job with her previous "Lost Girls" docu-film. There was so much factual information packed into it. It also helped NY LE re-focus on solving the murders. The fact they're starting this documentary, JMO, indicates they feel the police and DA may be correct in prosecuting Rex Heuermann.
B e a u tiful!
 
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