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Re posts fwiw..

''The witness wrote in the affidavit that she recognized Heuermann, Ellerup, and Vergata after the Gilgo Beach murders case garnered media attention and appeared in the press.

The fourth new witness, who spoke to Ray in an interview but did not give an affidavit, was decribed as a sex worker.

She claimed that she serviced Heuermann "over 20 times" around the same time when the Gilgo Beach murders occured.

The witness said that Heuermann was a serial user of sex workers and would often book two at a time.

She also alleged that he brought the hookers to his home while his wife was upstairs.''
It makes perfect sense that AE was fully aware of her husband's lifestyle of bringing SW's home to that small, tiny, little house, where everybody living there would have to be aware of what's going on in the room downstairs. The home is simply too small to hide the comings and goings and noises and smells of activity like has been described by at least four different women now.

Every time I see John Ray, he impresses me with his consistency and integrity in this case. He has been authentic and steadfast in keeping the truth out there.

Meanwhile, AE's attorney makes comments like these from the article:

"Following the latest claims made by Ray's witnesses, Ellerup's attorney Robert Macedonio said that the allegations were "outlandish."
"This is a desperate attempt by Johnny Ray to remain relevant in a case where he’s been chasing his tail for the past 12 years," Macedonio said, as per New York Daily News.
"It’s hard to take anyone seriously wearing a purple hat that looks more like an audition for a Willy Wonka movie than an attorney representing a victim," he added."


Macedonio has nothing better to say about John Ray than to criticize the way he dresses/looks while discounting JR's decades of work here. What's ironic is that It's hard for me to take Macedonio seriously because he's proven more than once he's all about the $$$$$ stream that he and his sneaky client can capitalize on here.

I trust John Ray 100% but Macedonio and AE 0%. Actions speak louder than words.

MOO.
 
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For those who haven't read them, here are links to the two affidavits



 
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Twenty years ago Wednesday, a landscaper cleaning the wooded property of a newly constructed home in Moriches found the partial remains of Andre Isaac, a professional drag performer known as “Sugar Bear.”

“If Andrew Isaac’s information is included on a website set up by the Suffolk County police Department as part of the LISK investigation, then why haven’t they mentioned him in connection with this case before?” journalist Alexis Linkletter asked on the podcast Unraveled that explored the case. “And more importantly, why isn’t his information visible for the public to see?”

Police have said that they do not believe that Isaac’s case is connected to the Gilgo Beach murders in which authorities found 10 sets of human remains along Ocean Parkway in 2010 and 2011 while searching for missing New Jersey woman Shannan Gilbert who was later found dead in Oak Beach.

“Before the official roll out of the website, [Isaac’s] case was utilized as a test during [the] layout process and was briefly live on the site,” police told the Press in a statement when asked about the still-functioning link to Isaac’s profile on the police website. “If you navigate to the website, not utilizing that link, that page no longer exists.”

Isaac’s mother, Kim Jordan, reportedly believes that his son’s murder is connected to the Gilgo investigation and said she has been in touch with Homicide Squad detectives to discuss it.


 
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Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann appeared in court Wednesday on Long Island after being charged earlier this year.

Heuermann, a 60-year-old architect, was initially arrested outside his Manhattan office in July for the murder of three sex workers. He was later charged with the murder of a fourth victim.

Heuermann has entered a not guilty plea on the latest charges.

In a minutes-long conference, it was determined that Heuermann would be due back on June 18.



 
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Lawyers for alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann want James Burke's FBI files...The attorneys for alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann are seeking files from the FBI investigation into former Suffolk County Chief of Police James Burke, saying alleged criminal activity by the man who once oversaw the investigation into the killings should be provided to the defense during discovery.

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I guess they'll have to explain how the former police officer killed the victim, but managed to get Rex Heuermann's wife's hair tangled up in the bindings. Just sayin'.

Defense is grasping at straws here. They really don't have a lot to work with, do they?

This article that mentions AE's hair being tangled up in the belt with W.H. initials. There are quite a few similar articles out there.

 
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I guess they'll have to explain how the former police officer killed the victim, but managed to get Rex Heuermann's wife's hair tangled up in the bindings. Just sayin'.

Defense is grasping at straws here. They really don't have a lot to work with, do they?

This article that mentions AE's hair being tangled up in the belt with W.H. initials. There are quite a few similar articles out there.


His wife is now supporting him? I’ve been off the thread and hadn’t heard that.
 
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His wife is now supporting him? I’ve been off the thread and hadn’t heard that.
She wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Cough. Cough. So therefore, she will be attending all of his court appearances. Cough. Cough. Cough. Welcome to her new and improved world of million dollar documentaries! MOO.
 
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She wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Cough. Cough. So therefore, she will be attending all of his court appearances. Cough. Cough. Cough. LOL. Welcome to her new and improved world of million dollar documentaries! MOO.

Her body language from the beginning has been interesting, to say the least.
 
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Her body language from the beginning has been interesting, to say the least.
What have you noticed about her body language? I still can't get past her giving the finger.
 
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She wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Cough. Cough. So therefore, she will be attending all of his court appearances. Cough. Cough. Cough. Welcome to her new and improved world of million dollar documentaries! MOO.
Personally, I intend to boycott the Asa productions.

While it appears to me that the evidence is strong enough there's no doubt of Heuermann's guilt, I will be happy if someone pokes around and manages to expand the circle of bad guys (Including Burke yay!).

I suspect a lot of bad stuff has gone down in Suffolk and Nassau counties that needs to be examined.
 
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I suspect a lot of bad stuff has gone down in Suffolk and Nassau counties that needs to be examined.
Why do they all -RH and other SK- bury their bodies along the beach, I wonder. And why are the bodies belonging to SW most of the time? All together a real swamp, where elite people were assumed to be. IMO
 
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“The Heuermann children have been living in a constant, surreal, waking nightmare,” he said.


I think, the statement is meant to describe the time before the arrest, since their childhood? In this instance I would very much like to agree with that!
 
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They’re turning over a lot of evidence.

According to prosecutors, 15 disclousres have been made between Mr Heuermann’s last court date and Wednesday’s hearing, ABC7 reports. Those disclosures include thousands of pages of discovery, including 388 leads on Mr Heuermann, DNA lap reports, and data from 422 digital devices seized from the suspect’s home and office.

“Just today alone, we provided the Barnes missing persons investigation from the NYPD which is approximately 2,500 pages,” Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said. “We have about a 12-terabyte hard drive with regard to the nuclear DNA. We have digital extractions from a number of the digital devices that were recovered from the defendant’s residence.”
422 digital devices seized from the suspect’s home and office? That sounds like a lot, even if they were mostly thumb drives.
 
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“The Heuermann children have been living in a constant, surreal, waking nightmare,” he said.


I think, the statement is meant to describe the time before the arrest, since their childhood? In this instance I would very much like to agree with that!
To me, it seems they’re referring to the time after Rex’s arrest. I don’t know why these adults need an attorney to keep telling us this. Who is paying the attorneys for the adult offspring? They and their mother are earning a very generous income from a documentary that is treating them far better than the real victims of their father’s crimes.
 
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Personally, I intend to boycott the Asa productions.

While it appears to me that the evidence is strong enough there's no doubt of Heuermann's guilt, I will be happy if someone pokes around and manages to expand the circle of bad guys (Including Burke yay!).

I suspect a lot of bad stuff has gone down in Suffolk and Nassau counties that needs to be examined.
I also plan to boycott that show, but would like to know why NBC thought it necessary to give Rex’s family so much money. I hope they plan to do the same for the families of Rex’s victims.

It would also be great if they investigate the murders of all the other LISK victims.
 
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I also plan to boycott that show, but would like to know why NBC thought it necessary to give Rex’s family so much money. I hope they plan to do the same for the families of Rex’s victims.

It would also be great if they investigate the murders of all the other LISK victims.
Indeed. The torsos in Manorville, how were they stored? Did the killer not leave anything there? Touch DNA or some hairs?

Who is the toddlers’s father? It seems running her DNA against all possible databases could generate his name, through direct matches or otherwise.

I wonder how much of these obvious angles are being pursued properly. 14 years.

It seems an awful lot of people are rather slow on the uptake.
 
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His wife is now supporting him? I’ve been off the thread and hadn’t heard that.

Yes, that happened around the time she received a deal for 7 figures to assist in the production of a documentary about her family’s tragic life dealing with the news media after Rex’s arrest.

Rex’s next court date is June 18. The judge wants all discovery turned over by July.
 
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To me, it seems they’re referring to the time after Rex’s arrest. I don’t know why these adults need an attorney to keep telling us this. Who is paying the attorneys for the adult offspring? They and their mother are earning a very generous income from a documentary that is treating them far better than the real victims of their father’s crimes.
bbm
Of course they are! But in my eyes it would fit with the time BEFORE the arrest similarly. For the adult children it IS a nightmare, and probably it also WAS a nightmare before the arrest. Who does imagine that home as a peaceful, normal environment?
 
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To me, it seems they’re referring to the time after Rex’s arrest. I don’t know why these adults need an attorney to keep telling us this. Who is paying the attorneys for the adult offspring? They and their mother are earning a very generous income from a documentary that is treating them far better than the real victims of their father’s crimes.
Exactly... if they are so in need of basic needs, how are they getting this legal "help?"

MOO
 

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