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sending prayers to the loved ones of the victims........was RH asked about Karen Vergata ??
 
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so that's it..he just admitted to strangling each victim and leaving their bodies on the beach.

he hardly had to talk.

I am disgusted...he did WAY more than just strangle these girls..strangulation would be a blessing compared to what he did to these women.

totally disgusted.

mOO
Maybe we should consider that that may be all the families want to hear.

I can't imagine what it was like for the families of Rader's victims hearing him recount in excruciating detail with no remorse what he did to their loved ones in a public courtroom where they had to maintain composure due to the rules of that space.

MOO
 
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I am a huge kink shamer. mOO
I do not believe that murder is a kink. I know some sicko's might get a sexual kick from murdering someone, but it is a mental illness, not a kink. I do not know anyone in the kink community that would agree with anything not enthusiastically consented to. There is no consent in murder.
I have no idea why VH would say that, other than her not understanding what consent is and how important it is to the kink community. It sounds like an ignorant comment, to me. IMO.
 
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so that's it..he just admitted to strangling each victim and leaving their bodies on the beach.

he hardly had to talk.

I am disgusted...he did WAY more than just strangle these girls..strangulation would be a blessing compared to what he did to these women.

totally disgusted.

mOO
I'm curious when some of the families were informed last week about the guilty plea which I assume was by Teirney/staff were they informed that Judge Mazzei could ask RH about the details of their deaths and also the dismemberment of their loved one?
If Mazzei could ask then maybe they said no,and who could blame them?

Since RH was said to have tortured his victims for long periods of time I highly doubt that strangulation was the cause of death for all 8 women.
imo
 
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Maybe we should consider that that may be all the families want to hear.

I can't imagine what it was like for the families of Rader's victims hearing him recount in excruciating detail with no remorse what he did to their loved ones in a public courtroom where they had to maintain composure due to the rules of that space.

MOO
Rex would've gotten off on doing it too. We know he liked harassing family of victims.
 
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Maybe we should consider that that may be all the families want to hear.

I can't imagine what it was like for the families of Rader's victims hearing him recount in excruciating detail with no remorse what he did to their loved ones in a public courtroom where they had to maintain composure due to the rules of that space.

MOO

oh I agree with you but he should have said he raped and tortured them as well. we didn't need the full BTK treatment.
 
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Rex would've gotten off on doing it too. We know he liked harassing family of victims.

He definitely would have enjoyed seeing the victims families grieving as he talked of their deaths. Even Brian Kohberger showed those emotions when watching friends and family give victim impact statements at his trial.
 
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Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty on Wednesday, April 8, to murdering seven women and admitted to killing an eighth, marking a major development in the Gilgo Beach case that has long haunted Long Island, N.Y., and devastated victims’ families

The women — known as the Gilgo Four — disappeared between 2007 and 2010. They were all in their 20s, worked as escorts and were described as having similar builds. Their remains were found without clothes, bound in burlap within proximity to each other near Gilgo Beach in December 2010. They were discovered accidentally during a search for another woman, Shannan Gilbert, a 24-year-old escort who went missing after visiting a client in a gated community and then fleeing his home.

Heuermann was also charged with second-degree murder in the case of Valerie Mack, 24, who disappeared in 2000, and Jessica Taylor, 20, who went missing in July 2003. Both were mutilated. He was also accused in the murder of Sandra Costilla, whose partially clothed body was discovered in 1993 by two people hunting in the woods in the Town of Southampton. Costilla, a native of Trinidad and Tobago, was 28 at the time of her death, authorities have said.

Heuermann said he used a burner phone and lured each woman with the promise of money. He strangled them before dumping their bodies along Ocean Parkway, he said in court.
 
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I do hope the families of the victims find a way to cut into the money grabbing by the attorneys and Heuermanns,
I agree and I don’t understand how NBC and Peacock can justify paying the Heurrmanns for their interviews and involvement in the documentary when the families of the victims do the same but do so for free? Meanwhile platforms like Netflix its show on Dahmer and Peacock with its documentary on Gilgo are dominating a lucrative market in which meeting True Crime audience members’ demand for exclusive access into private lives of suspects and their families can now yield billions in total streaming hours billed. As Sherre Gilbert proclaimed before, with each and every interview and retelling of their stories the representatives and loved ones of the those whose remains were discovered on Gilgo Beach or were found to have been victimized by RH throughout LI must willingly and consistently face again their own trauma that encompasses their sense of loss, injustice and dehumanization. Yet, it is the families of the suspects who are offered the big bucks just for the chance of producers to feature them in their next project and it is networks and streaming platforms who net the most profit off the final product. This is not to say the suspect’s families aren’t victims too but unlike their counterparts and the business executives and producers at the TV networks and streaming platforms, the contribution made by the families of the victims are uncompensated and their suffering remain inacknowledged. It doesn’t seem fair or right in my opinion and it feels like in my opinion the victims and their loved ones are being exploited and victimized again.

If the suspects families can be compensated or the business execs can yield such lucrative profits off of stories, relationships and experiences not their own, then the victims families and representatives should also be appropriately compensated for their part. Especially when they are the ones who humanize and bring to life those who are no longer here to speak for themselves and yet still had their lives, memories and voices maligned and nearly silenced by corruption and biases in the media, local community and members of LE. Their perseverance and refusal to ever give up is a huge reason why RH has finally had his day in court, plead guilty and confessed he was responsible for the heinous murders of 8 sisters, friends and daughters all across LI. As a result, they shouldn’t be treated, compensated or acknowledged any less than others putting together projects and pieces of media, especially the ones made for profit, based on RH’s and the Gilgo Beach victims.

Also, my own opinion and bias, but I think their perspectives and narratives are far more interesting and insightful when compared to AH or on any information gleaned from learning about RH or his background. If I had to pay for one, I would find those of the victim’s advocate, loved ones and representatives to be of more value and worthy of investment. But that could be just me.

IMO/MOO






 
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Maybe we should consider that that may be all the families want to hear.

I can't imagine what it was like for the families of Rader's victims hearing him recount in excruciating detail with no remorse what he did to their loved ones in a public courtroom where they had to maintain composure due to the rules of that space.

MOO
VERY fair point.

But the families also lose access to information that can help then in civil court if, for instance, the presumed extended torture is never established.

MOO
 
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In M00 no matter what RH says today Asa will continue to support him.

She will say something like "he changed along the way in our marriage " or "I support the man that he used to be."

Just by your post up above Asa will still stand by him. That being said, Im guessing she will contine to show no remore for the victims. M00
I just saw her attorney said that...That is an absolutely ridiculous way to respond. That makes AE look worse not better!
 
  • #534
oh I agree with you but he should have said he raped and tortured them as well. we didn't need the full BTK treatment.
He stuck to what was required under the charges, admission of killing and disposal. Probably on the advice of his counsel, or as a requirement of the court. He wasn't charged with rape or torture. Even though we know he did it, and he knows we know, it's about ticking the boxes. A long point by point laying out of every beat is very rare, and probably is more of a thrill for the perpetrator than a beacon for truth, since these guys tend to lie like it's going out of fashion. It'd be just like him to make up some horrendous detail just so he could watch the faces of her family. We know he called their loved ones and tormented them. He's a sadist, and a just the basic facts approach is, in my opinion, the only way to manage that kind of person who likes to hurt the families as a way of prolonging his pleasure. He should never get a Rader like platform, even if he demands it. It's his way of killing them again, on a stage with the world hanging off his every word.

MOO
 
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CBS has live coverage now with attorney for RH.....saw a couple of in court pix....sweet Jesus was RH smirking ???
 
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CBS has live coverage now with attorney for RH.....saw a couple of in court pix....sweet Jesus was RH smirking ???
Well, he's proud of all of it, and he's finally getting the laurels. He gets to take credit for the greatest work of his life.

MOO
 
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Netflix should right this error and pay the victims, they failed to compensate the actual victims.mOO
 
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