Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, Murdered, Athens, May 11, 2021

[Angleterre]

He's not telling us exactly where he got it from. Was it from the autopsy report as everybodhi suggests? Was it from another LE? Was it a reliable source or not? We don't know. The main thing is he doesn't want this information to be used in court, so he's just having a friendly conversation with media (which he cautions media repeatedly much of the conversation is hypothetical), but he doesn't want media to think he's literally reading from the autopsy report as if he's in court. Why would he do this? Maybe he's bluffing. Maybe he wants the murderer to think that there are problems in the timeline. Maybe he's being truthful. Either way, he's leaving his source vague on purpose.

JMO

In the U.K. when you have a suspicious death and everybody turns out to the scene, a DR, often the FME ( Force Medical Examiner who is a forensic Dr working for that Police force ), will give you an approximate time of death based upon Rigor and the body temperature so maybe that’s how the Police Chief got the information if In fact you have this process in Greece . Failing that then it is probably from the post mortem

 

[Patrick Jane]

this is a media interview with a prominent criminal lawyer

The newswoman asks him if, based on his experience, he believes that a solution to the crime is close at hand. He responds by saying that "it could be that it wasn't three criminals (who committed the crime), and we may have another version of (i.e. a different solution to) the crime." He hopes that this isn't the case.
Then they have a discussion about the maximum legal sentence for the murderer. He says the maximum sentence is "life sentence". The newsman asks what does this mean in practice (i.e. in reality), how long behind bars? The lawyer says it would be 16 years, which, he says, isn't a real "life sentence." Then he talks at length about how the sentencing system in Greece is too lenient and needs to be improved and become stricter, and in his opinion Greece needs a better life sentence system, similar to the U.S., where dangerous criminals are evaluated as to whether they are a danger to the community/society before they are released.

(my summary and translation)

 

[Dotta]

this is a media interview with a prominent criminal lawyer

The newswoman asks him if, based on his experience, he believes that a solution to the crime is close at hand. He responds by saying that "it could be that it wasn't three criminals (who committed the crime), and we may have another version of (i.e. a different solution to) the crime." He hopes that this isn't the case.
Then they have a discussion about the maximum legal sentence for the murderer. He says the maximum sentence is "life sentence". The newsman asks what does this mean in practice (i.e. in reality), how long behind bars? The lawyer says it would be 16 years, which, he says, isn't a real "life sentence." Then he talks at length about how the sentencing system in Greece is too lenient and needs to be improved and become stricter, and in his opinion Greece needs a better life sentence system (similar to the U.S.) where dangerous criminals are evaluated as to whether they are a danger to the community/society before they are released.

(my summary and translation)

16 years? Hmm...

 

[Patrick Jane]

16 years? Hmm...

It's preposterous. In my opinion, the murderer of Caroline should serve the rest of his life behind bars, without the possibility of parole.

 

[Skigh]

It's preposterous. In my opinion, the murderer of Caroline should serve the rest of his life behind bars, without the possibility of parole.

I would add another life sentence for the murder of the dog.

 

[Dotta]

It's preposterous. In my opinion, the murderer of Caroline should serve the rest of his life behind bars, without the possibility of parole.

I wonder why anybody bothers calling a 16 year sentence a "life sentence"? Let's be honest and simply say - a murderer is going to stay in prison for 16 years. In Poland this sentence is 25 years. The public always complains our system is too lenient as well.

 

[Frannie]

this is a media interview with a prominent criminal lawyer

The newswoman asks him if, based on his experience, he believes that a solution to the crime is close at hand. He responds by saying that "it could be that it wasn't three criminals (who committed the crime), and we may have another version of (i.e. a different solution to) the crime." He hopes that this isn't the case.
Then they have a discussion about the maximum legal sentence for the murderer. He says the maximum sentence is "life sentence". The newsman asks what does this mean in practice (i.e. in reality), how long behind bars? The lawyer says it would be 16 years, which, he says, isn't a real "life sentence." Then he talks at length about how the sentencing system in Greece is too lenient and needs to be improved and become stricter, and in his opinion Greece needs a better life sentence system, similar to the U.S., where dangerous criminals are evaluated as to whether they are a danger to the community/society before they are released.

(my summary and translation)

Oh, he doesn’t believe B’s version of the event?

 

[Tiff23fr]

This thread is nearing capacity and will close in 5-10 mins. A link for Thread #2 will be posted at that time.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Please Continue Here: Thread #2