If there is ever an answer in this case...

[human]

I'm honestly not trying to defend Terri here, but the question that keeps running through my head is how do Kaine & Desiree come to the conclusion that Terri has given tidbits of information to 2-3 friends and whatnot?

Up until the time Kaine was informed about the alleged murder-for-hire plot, both he & Desiree were asserting that everyone (the two of them, Tony & Terri) was cooperating with LE & that everyone was doing everything they could to find Kyron. Then there was the alleged MFH, the divorce filing, etc... and suddenly Desiree & Kaine are strongly suspecting Terri of a million & one things & they've made umpteen statements to the press about all of their suspicions. To me, it doesn't seem as though they have any basis whatsoever for making their statements/accusations, especially with regards to what Terri has told (or is telling) 2-3 friends about June 4th.

I personally think they're grasping at straws rather than connecting actual dots. I feel so sad for them in losing their son for so long & the agony they must feel at not knowing where he is or what happened to him, but I can't ignore that they are not sounding very logical to me anymore with regards to their beliefs about what Terri did or did not do.

I imagine Desi and Kaine are getting all kinds of info from people. People who didn't want to say anything before Ky disappeared, such as alcohol missing from their homes after Terri had been there.

Or information about her bad-mouthing Kaine to others. LE has had to ask Kaine and Desi about people and activities to find out what they know.

That's the bits and pieces.

They want their child back. They are not going to reveal any information that they feel will jeopardize that.

 

[TallyHo]

I've also been unusually jittery this week. I don't know if it's because something's going to happen, or if buying my first home is causing it, but it's like I'm pins and needles. And I keep checking in everyday to see something happening, but nothing yet.

Aedrys- I understand the frustration with the waiting, and the waiting, and the waiting.... In my city we are in the same holding pattern over another horrible crime. Lorenzen Wright, an NBA basketball player, was found dead having been shot at least 12 times. The police have taken evidence from the home of his ex wife, but it's been over a month with no word. I guess these things just take time, but it is really frustrating! (There is a thread here at WS about Lorenzen's case if anyone is interested).

Sending prayers for Kyron! (And congrats on your first home!!)

 

[cypress]

Until Terri retained her lawyer, LE said she was cooperative. There are numerous news reports and direct quotes by LE attesting to this fact. After she retained Houze, LE said they weren't asking her any questions. IMHO, they stopped asking because she'd already answered their questions numerous times, and Houze advised her against speaking to LE.

IMHO, DS has cooperated with LE. In her People interview she mentions speaking to LE, and she mentions that LE only wanted her to tell them the way in which Terri had committed this crime or the knowledge Terri had of this crime. At this point, it seems that not even LE is sure about how Terri is involved, which should be concerning to everyone, IMHO. Why is Desiree asserting Dede hasn't even spoken to police? She has bad information, IMHO.

There is a vast difference between believing someone is being uncooperative and the fact of that person being uncooperative. If Terri and/or Dede are innocent, then they have been cooperative. Desiree asserts they are uncooperative because they are not confessing. If there's nothing to confess, though, then they're not being uncooperative.

Having said that, I believe this case will break when Kyron's body is found, but I believe where he's found will implicate someone totally unrelated to Terri and the Horman family. Regardless of Terri's flaws and poor choices, regardless of the circus this has become, Kyron will tell his story eventually, IMHO.

 

[cypress]

I imagine Desi and Kaine are getting all kinds of info from people. People who didn't want to say anything before Ky disappeared, such as alcohol missing from their homes after Terri had been there.

Or information about her bad-mouthing Kaine to others. LE has had to ask Kaine and Desi about people and activities to find out what they know.

That's the bits and pieces.

They want their child back. They are not going to reveal any information that they feel will jeopardize that.

BBM

Recently, Kaine and Desiree have made statements about their statements not being approved by LE. When asked what they are basing their opinions on, most of the time, it's an instinct, a feeling inside, or their personal, subjective beliefs about Terri and that day as opposed to evidence that's leading them to that conclusion. Very, very, very rarely is there any mention of not answering a question because their answer involves evidence and they don't want to jeopardize the case. I actually only remember one or two times shortly after Terri became the unofficial POI when this happened.

Desiree said unequivocally that she believes Kyron is alive based on a feeling inside of her. When asked about Terri's motive for doing this, Desiree and Kaine were bewildered as they groped for answer as opposed to silent because they already knew the answer. Desiree has stated Dede Spicher is being uncooperative, but Dede Spicher is saying that she has spoken to police and the People interview strongly implied that she'd told LE all she knew, but that it wasn't in line with what police wanted to hear.

I'm willing to believe Terri is guilty. I have no stake in this. I only want Kyron found and for the person responsible to be punished. Being unconvinced of Terri's guilt is not a defense of Terri at all, but I can't and won't ignore the apparent lack of evidence, that what we know of Terri's timeline matches up to what she was saying on June 5, nor can I ignore the seemingly contradictory, bad information Kaine and Desiree sometimes put out for public consumption, much of which is fueling the belief that Terri is guilty, IMHO.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't know who will provide the break in this case, but I don't think they are waiting on the chance that Kyron will be found. I think they're stuck with very little evidence tying their main suspect to the disappearance. But I guess we'll have to wait until the GJ is done to know just what they do have on Terri.
The fact that they haven't officially declared Terri a suspect tells me nothing. LE often has someone in custody, behind bars by the time they make that label official. It's pretty obvious to me who they're focusing on, and who the GJ is targeting.

 

[cluciano63]

Kaine indicating that Terri may have told bits and pieces to other people...I think he is just saying this in response to what seems to have been varying stories re: Terri's older son's departure from the home, i.e. Terri has a tendency to tell different people different things. Not because Kaine has info indicating that different people know things about Terri and Kyron.

I really do not believe that Desiree and Kaine are privvy to as much info as many others seem to believe. I think they have formed their own beliefs and speak from those.

But I do think that if Terri is guilty, it may take Dede or someone else to eventually provide enough info to charge her, especially if Kyron is not found.

 

[Calliope]

Kaine indicating that Terri may have told bits and pieces to other people...I think he is just saying this in response to what seems to have been varying stories re: Terri's older son's departure from the home, i.e. Terri has a tendency to tell different people different things. Not because Kaine has info indicating that different people know things about Terri and Kyron.

I really do not believe that Desiree and Kaine are privvy to as much info as many others seem to believe. I think they have formed their own beliefs and speak from those.

But I do think that if Terri is guilty, it may take Dede or someone else to eventually provide enough info to charge her, especially if Kyron is not found.

I agree. In the audio interview with the Oregonian, Kaine says what they've put out there comes from what Terri has said. They also indicate that LE is keeping information to themselves. So IMO pretty much everything Kaine and Desiree have said is either conjecture, 'instinct', or what they heard from Terri. The liar =\

 

[PaulaF513]

I've also been unusually jittery this week. I don't know if it's because something's going to happen, or if buying my first home is causing it, but it's like I'm pins and needles. And I keep checking in everyday to see something happening, but nothing yet.

OT

Good luck and best wishes on your first house. It's a big step and a scary one, but so worth it in the long run. Enjoy!

 

[citigirl]

OT

Good luck and best wishes on your first house. It's a big step and a scary one, but so worth it in the long run. Enjoy!

That could easily be the source of your jitters. The first time is always nerve-wrackiing...

 

[txsvicki]

If the friendship or relationship falls apart DeDe might have more information or Terri herself could eventually break the case if she's charged with kidnapping.

 

[gardeness]

At this point, I feel LE will either need to find the crime scene or Kyron to have a break in this case~it just seems that they are at a stand-still...

 

[mmmagique]

I believe that is underestimating LE, and what they already have.
I definitely wouldn't be very relaxed were I involved.

 

[Jade2010]

You know if DeDe is involved and Terri is involved (which I do NOT believe), don't you think DeDe would be pissed and fighting with Terri because Terri has this hot hot top-notch lawyer and DeDe has just a plain old one?

 

[mmmagique]

Oh no! Dede is in the top 15th percentile as far as IQ is concerned. She doesn't need a great lawyer. While her more vulnerable friend needs protection.

 

[cluciano63]

Personally, I really, really hope Dede has some info for LE. They need something solid to either prove this case against Terri or move on. I don't think Dede can clear Terri, but she may be able to offer enough evidence for LE to believe they can convince a jury (and people like me, who would make up a jury.)

But the more I think about it, I don't think Dede has the answer, and that to me means that probably no one does, other than the guilty party.