• #681
There’s just a complete lack of understanding as to how the US military operates.
100%.

The US military works exactly as any western military does; that's what makes us allies.
 
  • #682
"The mission of Operation Epic Fury is laser-focused," Hegseth said today during a briefing at the Pentagon. "Destroy Iranian offensive missiles, destroy Iranian missile production, destroy their navy and other security infrastructure, and they will never have nuclear weapons."

For decades, Iran has been in pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability, through both enrichment of weapons-grade nuclear material and development of missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead.

In June 2025, during Operation Midnight Hammer, the United States struck Iran's Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant using 30,000-pound GBU-57 "massive ordnance penetrator" bombs. That operation, Hegseth said, obliterated Iran's nuclear program.
 
  • #683
Yes
He cut 20% of 4 star generals
A purge of over a dozen top leaders including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the vice chief head of Global strike command and the Air Force Special ops command as an example
I highly doubt he has any respect an it’s well known he had no experience
I can't speak for other branches because I have no firsthand knowledge, but I can speak for the Army, and it's been downsizing some MOS's and restructuring things for many years now. This happens over time, things evolve and it changes. I've been an Army wife for 27 years, so I've seen things change a lot both directions during that time. I've seen the massive increase in troops and the need to downsize once we were out of Afghanistan and Iraq. The military always adjusts and there is good and bad with that, but it isn't anything new to this administration, but for some reason it seems to get made into a headline as if it is Trumps personal choice to fire people. IMO
 
  • #684
  • #685
Under the guidance of Military Intelligence, the Air Force completed a strike targeting dozens of command centers of the Iranian terror regime in the heart of Tehran.

As part of the sortie, the IDF struck command centers and bases of internal security forces subordinate to the Iranian terror regime, which are responsible for suppressing protests against the regime, including through the use of violence and the arrest of civilians. The strike on these bases deepens the damage to the regime's suppression capabilities.

In addition, the IDF struck more than 10 command centers of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence, the central intelligence body of the terror regime, and the headquarters of the "Quds Force" unit. The strikes targeted command centers where Military Intelligence identified activity by regime soldiers.

Alongside this, the Air Force continued to strike ground-to-ground missile launchers, sites used to produce weaponry for Iranian forces, as well as additional sites of the Revolutionary Guards.

The completed strike deepens the damage to the Iranian terror regime. The IDF will continue to strike the regime's systems and operatives wherever they operate.

 
  • #686
While refusing to directly join the war, Britain, France and Germany have said they would work with the United State to help stop Iran’s attacks. The U.K. will allow U.S. forces to use British bases to attack Iran’s missiles and launch sites.

Still, almost no European leader has criticized the U.S.-Israeli attacks. Many are satisfied to see the downfall of an Iranian regime that has for years arrested European citizens and challenged Europe’s economic interests.

Spain has been a rare dissenting voice. “One can be against a hateful regime,” Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said Sunday, “and at the same time, be against a military intervention that is unjustifiable, dangerous and outside of international law.”
 
  • #687
Respectfully, that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about, which is military effectiveness.
I thought we were talking about the undeclared war on Iran.

MOO
 
  • #688
"The mission of Operation Epic Fury is laser-focused," Hegseth said today during a briefing at the Pentagon. ...
sbm

nitpick, but i've always hated this expression. lasers aren't focused, they're collimated.
 
  • #689
Obama hasn’t been the president for almost 10 years. The Trump administration bombed Iran 3 days ago. I will never understand the constant need to bring up Obama, Biden, Hilary, Jimmy Carter every time there’s a discussion about current events happening under the Trump administration. All MOO.
Blame anyone, blame Trump #1 for giving us this situation
 
  • #690
  • #691

Here's the latest​

Trump on Iran: President Donald Trump told CNN’s Jake Tapper the “big wave” is yet to come in the war with Iran. In separate remarks, Trump said Iran ignored his warnings over its nuclear program, and he did not rule out sending US troops to Iran if “necessary.”

Pentagon briefs press: US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called on Iranians to “take advantage” of the opportunity for regime change, even as he said the war was not about ousting the government in Tehran.
 
  • #692
I don't agree with Spain's actions but I do so wish Starmer had a backbone.
 
  • #693

Here's the latest​

Trump on Iran: President Donald Trump told CNN’s Jake Tapper the “big wave” is yet to come in the war with Iran. In separate remarks, Trump said Iran ignored his warnings over its nuclear program, and he did not rule out sending US troops to Iran if “necessary.”

Pentagon briefs press: US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called on Iranians to “take advantage” of the opportunity for regime change, even as he said the war was not about ousting the government in Tehran.
He sounds gleeful, doesn't he? Imagine your son or daughter (if there are any left) is serving in a combat role and you hear your president say with a shrug that he has no yips about saying he'll put boots on the ground or warning there will be more casualties. 🤷‍♀️
 
  • #694
Two things can be true.

This can be about getting rid of Iran's ability to make nuclear weapons, which I think is the number one concern. It can also have the effect of bringing regime change. These things are not opposite goals and the President saying this is about Iran building nuclear weapons does not mean it also isn't true that now is the time for Iranians to stand up and help with regime change. Both can happen at the same time. We just helped them in a big way by taking out the biggest problem in their way. If it was about regime change, we could have stopped with taking out the Ayatollah. IMO
 
  • #695

Analysis: Iran’s leaders ‘in denial of reality’ with ‘reckless’ attacks on Gulf states

Faisal al-Mudahka, editor-in-chief of the Qatari newspaper Gulf Times, says Iran’s government is “living in a bubble” and in “denial of reality”.

He said there appears to be a “disconnection between the political leadership and the revolution”, describing the situation as “very concerning”.

Al-Mudahka said three layers of the Islamic Republic’s leadership have been “decapitated” and suggested some remaining leaders may be acting recklessly.

Using energy distribution as leverage is “part of Iran’s philosophy”, he said, noting Tehran has previously sought to disrupt the flow of oil and gas supplies in the Strait of Hormuz – one of the world’s most strategically important trade route


 
  • #696
“When the highly trained, loyal bodyguards and drivers of senior Iranian officials came to work near Pasteur Street in Tehran — where Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in an Israeli air strike on Saturday — the Israelis were watching.

Nearly all the traffic cameras in Tehran had been hacked for years, their images encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel, according to two people familiar with the matter.

One camera had an angle that proved particularly useful, according to one of the people, allowing them to determine where the men liked to park their personal cars and providing a window into the workings of a mundane part of the closely guarded compound.

Complex algorithms added details to dossiers on members of these security guards that included their addresses, hours of duty, routes they took to work and, most importantly, who they were usually assigned to protect and transport — building what intelligence officers call a “pattern of life”.

-But for a target as high value as Khamenei, failure was not an option. Israeli military doctrine requires that two separate senior officers, working independently from each other, confirm with high certainty that a target is in the location that is to be attacked and who he is accompanied by.

-But the Americans had something even more concrete — a human source, both people familiar with the situation said. The CIA declined to comment. That allowed Israeli jets, which had been flying for hours in order to arrive on time at the right location, to fire off as many as 30 precision munitions, the former senior Israeli intelligence official said.
 
  • #697
  • #698
He sounds gleeful, doesn't he? Imagine your son or daughter (if there are any left) is serving in a combat role and you hear your president say with a shrug that he has no yips about saying he'll put boots on the ground or warning there will be more casualties. 🤷‍♀️
My son is currently there, so I don't have to imagine. There are plenty of sons and daughters "left" and they are giving it their all right now. Many heroes who are bravely defending American and ally bases and civilians in the middle east from Iran's missiles and one way attack drones. He's currently shooting down missiles that Iran is firing and he's very much in harm's way.

I understand exactly what the President said. He didn't sound gleeful to me. It sounds like he believes in this mission and when asked if he would put boots on the ground, if he said no and then at some point down the road that was needed, he would be shredded for lying. So, he responds that if that is what was needed it's not off the table. IMO
 
  • #699
For nearly half a century, the Islamic Republic of Iran — the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism — has killed and maimed American citizens and service members through its own forces and proxy militias. More Americans have been killed by Iran than any other terrorist regime on Earth.

President Donald J. Trump is doing what Presidents over the last five decades have refused to do — eliminate the threat once and for all. By destroying Iran’s missiles, annihilating their navy, and ensuring they can never obtain a nuclear weapon, the Trump Administration’s bold and decisive action is protecting American lives and advancing American interests.
 
  • #700
For nearly half a century, the Islamic Republic of Iran — the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism — has killed and maimed American citizens and service members through its own forces and proxy militias. More Americans have been killed by Iran than any other terrorist regime on Earth.

...
sbm

pretty sure that last part's not true. al qaeda killed over 3000. no way iran has killed that many americans.
 

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