MA MA - Webster, WhtMale 50-70, UP12944, $30-40K dental work, clothes, Dec'03

[sadnews]

John was 50-60 years old and sadly died of natural causes in the woods alone. In talking with the detective on Andrew Amato's who is also on this case he said he believes that this man was not local as he would have been ID'd. 5'9"-5'11" 180-201 pounds. White male.

• Gray sweat pants worn over light blue dress-type pants.
• Green thermal undershirt.
• Tan flannel shirt.
• Dark blue hooded sweatshirt.
• Red knit winter hat.
• Dress socks.
• Brown leather boater shoes
• The only exclusion I find is
  • Keith Spelhaug
  • 616UMMA

 

[HopeRains]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Caring1]

1 Missing Person Exclusion:

Missing Person / NamUs #MP11020Keith Spelhaug
Date of Last ContactNovember 18, 2003
StateFL
CountyMarion

 

[sadnews]

I cannot believe that an elderly man could just die nameless in this area unless as Det. Hoover said he was not local.

 

[annpats]

Is there not a family, a wife, or even a friend who is missing this poor man?!

And if there isn't, there is a house standing empty, not using any water or electric, or gas.....which should be ringing alarm bells with utility companies.

Also, if he wasn't local, how did he get there? No car was found nearby Nor any car keys found on his person.

And what was he doing alone in the woods far from home in winter..?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

His reconstruction:


The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Circumstances of Recovery:
Found in woods behind hunting & fishing club

It does seem odd that he was just out for a walk in the woods in 2003, but no one seems to know who he is or how got there after so long.

 

[sadnews]

Could he have been homeless,I wonder? Webster has the very famous outside music venue called Indian Ranch on Webster Lake where I spent many happy hours at country concerts. Maybe he came from somewhere else to see a show or work at one or more. So, was transient?

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Webster John Doe at NamUs:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Webster John Doe at the Doe Network:

616UMMA

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping case up. I wonder if DNA testing to identify him is still possible.

 

[beavt]

MP4266 Joseph Robertson was last seen leaving the Dover Retirement Facility in Dover, NJ on 1/2/2004. He was 63 years old with a height of 5’11” and weight of 200lbs with graying brown hair and brown eyes. He had no scars/marks/tattoos. No clothing description provided.
I get that the dates are off by two days. Did he live at the retirement facility or was he visiting someone? Maybe they were understaffed over the NYE holiday and didn’t realize he was missing until the 2nd. He really resembles the UID and stats are identical.
@sadnews could you reach out to the detective you’ve previously had contact with? Also fits with the theory that it wasn’t a local.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[beavt]

MP4266 Joseph Robertson was last seen leaving the Dover Retirement Facility in Dover, NJ on 1/2/2004. He was 63 years old with a height of 5’11” and weight of 200lbs with graying brown hair and brown eyes. He had no scars/marks/tattoos. No clothing description provided.
I get that the dates are off by two days. Did he live at the retirement facility or was he visiting someone? Maybe they were understaffed over the NYE holiday and didn’t realize he was missing until the 2nd. He really resembles the UID and stats are identical.
@sadnews could you reach out to the detective you’ve previously had contact with? Also fits with the theory that it wasn’t a local.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Submitted to Doe Network 6/3/2025

 

[Susikatze]

MP4266 Joseph Robertson was last seen leaving the Dover Retirement Facility in Dover, NJ on 1/2/2004. He was 63 years old with a height of 5’11” and weight of 200lbs with graying brown hair and brown eyes. He had no scars/marks/tattoos. No clothing description provided.
I get that the dates are off by two days. Did he live at the retirement facility or was he visiting someone? Maybe they were understaffed over the NYE holiday and didn’t realize he was missing until the 2nd. He really resembles the UID and stats are identical.
@sadnews could you reach out to the detective you’ve previously had contact with? Also fits with the theory that it wasn’t a local.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

That appears to be him. PM composite is heavily distorted and bloated but eyes, eyebrows and basic nasal shape are the same.

Only question, how did he get there? it is a 3 hour drive, unlikely to walk. He was elderly and probably special needs

 

[beavt]

That appears to be him. PM composite is heavily distorted and bloated but eyes, eyebrows and basic nasal shape are the same.

Only question, how did he get there? it is a 3 hour drive, unlikely to walk. He was elderly and probably special needs

How do any of these Doe’s get ‘there’ *sigh*