McDonald's stockholders reject childhood obesity proposal

Should McDonald's Shareholder Have Rejected or Accepted This Proposal?


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  • #21
Well, I'm still waiting to be wrapped in cotton and placed on a shelf. That's the only "safe" place anymore. Oh, wait...I have free will and a brain...think I will use them, and on with the real news...People are missing.
 
  • #22
As far as I know, nobody said anything about legislation, though with everybody arguing that corporations are amoral and heartless, I'm surprised it hasn't been proposed.

What I find sad is that posters here don't even think McD's owes us full disclosure (which would require a study) so that we can make fully informed choices. Apparently, our first impulse is to insist we already know everything there is to know--and to actually applaud the amorality of corporations.

What a bunch of sheep are we!

We already know MD's can't be good for us, what more do we need to know to be "fully informed"?
 
  • #23
But what about the children who DON'T have a parent as wise as you?

Tough luck for them?

(I don't mean this to come off as sarcastic I'm just pointing some things out.) Those parents could stop taking their kids to McDonald's and feed them junk at home. Should we tell grocery stores they can't sell junk food?

As far as I know, nobody said anything about legislation, though with everybody arguing that corporations are amoral and heartless, I'm surprised it hasn't been proposed.

What I find sad is that posters here don't even think McD's owes us full disclosure (which would require a study) so that we can make fully informed choices. Apparently, our first impulse is to insist we already know everything there is to know--and to actually applaud the amorality of corporations.

What a bunch of sheep are we!

The next time you go to McDonald's ask them for a nutritional information pamphlet, I got one years ago. Some of the stores have them out in the open.

If they're out of them you can go online and find the nutritional information at McDonald's website; http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/nutrition_choices.html

Here's more. It's easy to find on their website they don't hide it very much, JMO; http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/nutritionfacts.pdf
 
  • #24
But what about the children who DON'T have a parent as wise as you?

Tough luck for them?

Perhaps their parents should be held accountable for the choices they are making for their children rather than a corporation? Just throwing it out there.
 
  • #25
nutrional info is found on the back of the paper liners they put on the trays. They are also available online at the link provided by SD.
 
  • #26
Pardon my ignorance but I thought I saw where McD's now offers healthier selections for their happy meals?


Our teens only eat at McD's a couple times a year and only because that's about all they ever want to have it. They were taught that fast food is a treat not a meal. Like ice cream and candy and etc...that's the only reason I don't know.


I totally agree but take exception to lumping ice cream in with junk food. I don't consider ice cream junk food, as long as the rest of a person's diet is healthy.
 
  • #27
As far as I know, nobody said anything about legislation, though with everybody arguing that corporations are amoral and heartless, I'm surprised it hasn't been proposed.

What I find sad is that posters here don't even think McD's owes us full disclosure (which would require a study) so that we can make fully informed choices. Apparently, our first impulse is to insist we already know everything there is to know--and to actually applaud the amorality of corporations.

What a bunch of sheep are we!

I don't think we need a study to tell us what we should already know, fast food is crap. imo
 
  • #28
Why are Americans so quick to invoke the concept of personal responsibility when it comes to people and so quick to absolve corporations of all ethical obligations? (Even as our Supreme Court has ruled that corporations should have the rights of citizens. What about the obligations?)

I think it's fine to talk about personal responsibility when it comes to adults, and, no, I wouldn't prevent adults who want to eat at McD's from doing so.

But Happy Meals are directed toward children and most of our laws acknowledge that children are less able to make responsible decisions. If their parents are making bad choices on the behalf of children, it isn't enough to shrug and invoke the sacred words "personal responsibility." A study wouldn't in and of itself stop anyone from living on French fries and milk shakes, but it might serve to spread the word of just how bad a steady diet of McD's can be.

We all (including McD's) have an obligation toward the world's children. And a study might help to further publicize the dangers of Happy Meals as a steady diet. Teaching children that meal time is an "entertainment" or "play" period has ramifications that go far beyond the dangers of eating Big Macs; it can influence diet choices for life.

Just to be clear: I'm not a snob about fast food, though nowadays I tend more toward Subway. And I grew up eating at BK and McD's, too, though fast food was a once-a-week treat, not a staple in our diets.

The decision to refuse to study the issue should be bad p.r. for McD's. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that decision will only affect those of us who already limit our Big Macs and McFlurries.

The thing is, picking on McDonald's is like making you take off your shoes at the airport. It makes you feel like you're doing something when, in fact, it is solving not one bit of the problem while throwing money at it.

I've recently taken up the weight loss challenge (again!) so I am looking up nutritional information on EVERYTHING right now. What makes McDonald's so much worse than the Jason's Deli? JD has lots of fresh options, beautiful salads, soups made in the store...and kids' meals. With, I think, a toy. Or something. And if you look up the information, there are choices that are better than others, and some that are downright dreadful.

On the "adult" menus, I've been disappointed once again to find that much of the food that is labeled "healthy" is really no better for you in regards to calories, fat, sugar, salt, etc. than eating a Big Mac. One of my favorite salads (for all the times I was being "good") has more than 29 grams of fat and a boatload of sugar.

What is a study going to do? You might penalize the fast food chains, but what about regular restaurants? What about the grocery store, as a previous poster mentioned? Are birthday cakes going to be studied and banned? Limited to once a year for yourself?

I don't think the study is a bad idea, I just don't think we should fool ourselves into thinking that it will change the free market or human beings' stupidity and urge to kill ourselves with drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, food, and irresponsible behavior.
 

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