• #1,061
I never heard of this case until yesterday, through the "Lamont At Large" You Tube channel; he actually went to the farm where this all happened.

Anyway, I lived briefly in Lebanon in 2011-12, and that place was (and still is) meth central. This was the place I've mentioned, here and elsewhere, that had to discontinue their weekend backpack program for children in need, because guess what was happening to far too many of the backpacks, and the food in them?
 
  • #1,062
I never heard of this case until yesterday, through the "Lamont At Large" You Tube channel; he actually went to the farm where this all happened.

Anyway, I lived briefly in Lebanon in 2011-12, and that place was (and still is) meth central. This was the place I've mentioned, here and elsewhere, that had to discontinue their weekend backpack program for children in need, because guess what was happening to far too many of the backpacks, and the food in them?
That’s not surprising. Many suspected as much. It’s believed these monsters were preying on women addicts. Once lured inside, they were locked in a cage, tortured, sexually abused and filmed.

unfortunately, the results of the police investigation will be kept from the public.
 
  • #1,063
I hope they stay with it and he gets the death penalty.

What she must have been thinking and feeling being held in a cage drugged (probably for months) and then strangled.

She had no chance.

He must have thought no one would notice her missing - no one would care.

Sent her photo around on the dark web. Keep trophy pics on his phone.

He killed he like a wild animal / strung her body up on a gantry crane like deer meat and threw the rest of her out in the woods.

Labled the body parts he kept in a freezer (for god knows what) "7-24" - a number I know associate with Cassidy forever.

She wasn't even human in his eyes.

Then he and his best friend drove around at Walmarts looking for younger girls. Can you imagine if he wasn't caught?

Give him no mercy and let the town fall apart.

Sorry not sorry.

MOO

(information gathered from news source below).

I agree, IANAL but I have no idea why the prosecution would accept an Alford Plea here.
IMO they accepted the plea to protect others identities who were probably involved in one way or another. Now the details will never have to be published. This is absolutely sickening. IMO
 
  • #1,064
IMO they accepted the plea to protect others identities who were probably involved in one way or another. Now the details will never have to be published. This is absolutely sickening. IMO
Given that there do not seem to be any curious media in the area, state residents should demand report/commentary/investigation by Governor, AG, or State Police. Cancer grows if ignored.
 
  • #1,065
Given that there do not seem to be any curious media in the area, state residents should demand report/commentary/investigation by Governor, AG, or State Police. Cancer grows if ignored.
IMO they should be screaming for answers. Considering this, the Bagley guy and god knows how many others, it’s been going on for decades in a tiny part of MO. It’s mind boggling to me IMO
 
  • #1,066
  • #1,067
June 27, 2023 - summary of case

Its a summary, but not a full one. It doesn’t say anything about:

Who started the fire and set the explosives that destroyed the crime scene and evidence.

How and where the photos of Cassie being tortured and killed were found on the internet. Who put them there, who downloaded them

What were the killers doing with Cassies remains that had been packaged, labeled and stored in a food freezer? We’re they being advertised and sold on the internet?

What other activities were Phelps and Norton involved in on the internet and at the cabin?

What other evidence did police uncover in relation to this crime? What did they find in the cell phone and internet search records of these killers?

Did LE have any prior tips or see other activity related to this crime? We’re there other victims of these two killers, including any they may have sexually abused but didn’t kill?

Is the investigation continuing to see if there are other crimes linked to this case or to other people from that area who were involved in sex trafficking minors And selling video of those activities online?

Does LE and prosecutors plan to give a press conference and take questions from reporters?
 
  • #1,068
The local news media and community leaders in SW Missouri need to speak up and demand more information, more answers, more public accountability from the people in charge of this investigation. There are far too many SW MO missing women like Cassidy who have no one really actively investigating their cases.

Maybe its time for people to request broader federal oversight and new leadership. Create a task force and report to the public. These people's lives matter. Scumbags involved in these obscene, horrific murders and the sex trafficking need to be investigated and rooted out.

I had planned to visit Branson the next time I was home. Not now.

JMO
 
  • #1,069
From an article reporting on Norton's plea agreement:

...a break in the case came when an online tipster provided the FBI with several disturbing photographs that appeared to show Rainwater’s harrowing death, including the gruesome aftermath.

“The photos depicted a partially clothed female in a cage who we recognized as Cassidy,” the sheriff’s office said. “The other photos depicted Cassidy’s body bound to a gantry crane, commonly used for deer processing, and her evisceration and dismemberment.”

Why were there no charges brought against Phelps or Norton in relation to putting these horrific photographs on the internet? That's illegal. Why was there no investigation of this criminal activity?
 
  • #1,070
The local news media and community leaders in SW Missouri need to speak up and demand more information, more answers, more public accountability from the people in charge of this investigation. There are far too many SW MO missing women like Cassidy who have no one really actively investigating their cases.

Maybe its time for people to request broader federal oversight and new leadership. Create a task force and report to the public. These people's lives matter. Scumbags involved in these obscene, horrific murders and the sex trafficking need to be investigated and rooted out.

I had planned to visit Branson the next time I was home. Not now.

JMO
Where was she kidnapped from? How many people were involved in her abduction/murder?
 
  • #1,071
That's illegal.
Is it though? Unfortunately that type of content is all over the internet, liveleak and the like operated publicly for years. Its morally gross, but im unsure if its illegal in itself
 
  • #1,072
Is it though? Unfortunately that type of content is all over the internet, liveleak and the like operated publicly for years. Its morally gross, but im unsure if its illegal in itself
Yes, it’s especially illegal, when the victim is being forced to participate. Even more illegal when they are murdered and dismembered on video.
 
  • #1,073
Where was she kidnapped from? How many people were involved in her abduction/murder?
The convicted killers were known to troll local shopping centers for victims, thats a possibility.

Since details of her death were sealed by the court and the accused signed plea agreements, very few details are publicly available.
 
  • #1,074
  • #1,075
Unfortunately, the probable cause statements are the only information made available to the public.

There’s also very little information about the fire that was set at the crime scene, nor of the bombs with trip wires at the location. In spite of the fact that the FBI and several other agencies were actively gathering evidence at the crime scene, someone was able to go there at night to set the buildings on fire. They never determined who the arsonists were, nor how the crime scene was left unguarded.
 
  • #1,076
This case is the stuff of nightmares.
 
  • #1,077
"Nothing to see here" seems to be the official word from law enforcement.
 
  • #1,078
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Court records indicate that a default judgement of $30 million has been awarded to the children of Cassidy Rainwater, the victim of a Dallas County murder that garnered national attention due to its brutal and bizarre circumstances.

The young plaintiffs received an interlocutory default judgement on Jan. 25 by Missouri 30th Judicial Circuit Judge Mike Hendrickson, who assessed the evidence in determining damages in the wrongful death case against James Phelps and Timothy Norton, who are serving life sentences for the crime
 
  • #1,079
That’s not surprising. Many suspected as much. It’s believed these monsters were preying on women addicts. Once lured inside, they were locked in a cage, tortured, sexually abused and filmed.

unfortunately, the results of the police investigation will be kept from the public.
Good.
 
  • #1,080
Its a summary, but not a full one. It doesn’t say anything about:

Who started the fire and set the explosives that destroyed the crime scene and evidence.

How and where the photos of Cassie being tortured and killed were found on the internet. Who put them there, who downloaded them

What were the killers doing with Cassies remains that had been packaged, labeled and stored in a food freezer? We’re they being advertised and sold on the internet?

What other activities were Phelps and Norton involved in on the internet and at the cabin?

What other evidence did police uncover in relation to this crime? What did they find in the cell phone and internet search records of these killers?

Did LE have any prior tips or see other activity related to this crime? We’re there other victims of these two killers, including any they may have sexually abused but didn’t kill?

Is the investigation continuing to see if there are other crimes linked to this case or to other people from that area who were involved in sex trafficking minors And selling video of those activities online?

Does LE and prosecutors plan to give a press conference and take questions from reporters?
Bmo, jmo I am sure they are.
 

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