Netherlands Netherlands - Oudeburgsteeg Amsterdam, blkmale, multiple tattoos, no foul play, 2nd October 2022

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In the morning of Sunday, October 2, the emergency services retrieve an already deceased person from the water near the Oudebrugsteeg in Amsterdam. Unfortunately, the man has remained unidentified to date. Although the man did not die as a result of a crime, the police are trying to prevent him from getting an anonymous grave.

That's why the police are making a last-ditch effort to find out his identity. Even if only to inform any next of kin about the death of their relative or loved one, wherever they may be. Therefore, the police are sharing the clothing found and a description of the man's multiple tattoos, in the hope of receiving information about him.

The man who was found on the Oudebrugsteeg can be described as follows:
•male
•dark skin
•balding
•chubby
•had many tattoos

(Added by me: there is no description of his clothing, however, judging by the pictures his blouse was from Ralph Lauren ((either real or fake)) and his shirt seems to have the Belgian flag on it; if anyone knows the brand, please share, as the image isn’t clear enough to see. His belt seems to have something like “Aptainscorer” ((Captain Score(r)??)) on it in silver rhinestones. I know Score is a jeans brand here in the Netherlands, but a quick google search doesn’t yield any results for “Captain Score(r)”, “Aptainscor” or anything similar.)

The tattoo on his right chest is a star. The one on his right shoulder is a flower-like pattern. The possible letters KIJTS are written on the inside right upper arm. On his right forearm on the inside is written (or something similar):

Txid is what love look like
Life is what we make of it
Love the life you live
(Added by me: Probably “This is what love looks like, life is what we make of it, love the life you live”. It is possible that there are spelling errors in the tattoo itself, but that is unlikely, and even if there are I doubt it would be as bad as LE’s description)

Who knows or recognizes the deceased man who was found on the Oudebrugsteeg? Who knows who this might be? All information is welcome. You can fill in the tip form. You can also pass on your information by telephone via the investigation hotline: 0800-6070. If you prefer to remain anonymous, call 0800-7000 or complete the tip form completely anonymously at www.meldmisdaadanoniem.nl.

I wish we had pictures of the tattoos, since we also have PM’s.
The Oudebrugsteeg is smack in the middle of Amsterdam. It’s near the Red Light District and de Dam. I wonder if any people saw him fall into the water, since it’s such a busy area day and night. Based off of the PM’s our Doe was found within days after his death, he probably died in the evening/night and was found the next morning (all speculation!). I don’t see advanced stages of decomposition, and the area is super busy, so I assume someone noticed him in the water quickly.
I do wonder what the apparent wound on his head is and where he got it. Maybe he got into a fight (after a night out the evening before he was found?), got injured, and fell into the water? The wound in his head does seem to be the only injury he has, so maybe it’s just from falling into the water and hitting the quay/rocks or other sharp objects in the water? Just speculation.
It seems odd to me that the people passing by and the people living in the houses didn’t see or hear him fall into the water. There’s always someone passing by in that area.
The place he was found (with streetview):


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!!GRAPHIC POST MORTEM PICTURE AT BOTTOM OF PAGE!!
(link only available in Dutch)
 
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I just noticed that it’s the Oudebrugsteeg instead of Oudeburgsteeg. My apologies. LE made the mistake themselves on their page, but there is no Oudeburgsteeg in Amsterdam, only Oudebrugsteeg. The latter is where John Doe was found in the water. Can a mod change the title?
 
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His jeans look like they are work jeans rather than fashionably wrecked. He also looks like he has a contusion on his left temple that is completely abraded. That is the red light area.
 
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His jeans look like they are work jeans rather than fashionably wrecked. He also looks like he has a contusion on his left temple that is completely abraded. That is the red light area.
He seems to have been beaten up pretty bad, imo.
It's the first time I'm seeing a drowning victim with swollen eyes. MOO JMO
 
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Maybe our Doe was from Belgium (either living there or born there, or both). I know there’s a lot of immigrants from Congo living in Belgium, and second/third generation immigrants. It seems odd to me to wear a shirt like that without having any connection to Belgium. I wonder if LE has been looking at missing person cases from Belgium.
 
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He seems to have been beaten up pretty bad, imo.
It's the first time I'm seeing a drowning victim with swollen eyes. MOO JMO
That would support my theory of the going out and getting into a fight. I do wonder how LE has ruled out foul play, and if they’ve looked at camera footage from the surrounding area, put flyers up, questioned people etc.
 
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Thank you! It’s not the same exact one (JD’s one has the Belgian flag on the sleeves, and not across the shirt) but it’s very close! Good find :)
It is the same jersey. Zoom in and you will see the Belgium flag on the sleeves. It's a 2014 jersey, you can see it used to have the diagonal stripes. You can also see the "Burrda Sport" logo.
The diagonal stripes most likely faded out with time. MOO JMO

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It is the same jersey. Zoom in and you will see the Belgium flag on the sleeves. It's a 2014 jersey, you can see it used to have the diagonal stripes. You can also see the "Burrda Sport" logo.
The diagonal stripes most likely faded out with time. MOO JMO

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Oh, sorry, I didn’t see the stripes on the sleeves. Do you think the stripes would’ve faded completely in those 8 years? I’ve never had that happen to me (something fading completely) but it does seem likely in this case.
 
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Oh, sorry, I didn’t see the stripes on the sleeves. Do you think the stripes would’ve faded completely in those 8 years? I’ve never had that happen to me (something fading completely) but it does seem likely in this case.
BBM
I think it would. A single wash on a hot cycle can ruin the paint completely.
Do you know if the shirt had a number on the back?
 
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BBM
I think it would. A single wash on a hot cycle can ruin the paint completely.
Do you know if the shirt had a number on the back?
Nope, I don’t know anything else. It doesn’t seem like there’s more information about this online, except for this article: Lichaam aangetroffen in water van het Damrak

A body was found on Sunday morning in the water of Damrak and Oudebrugsteeg. On Sunday morning around nine o'clock, the police received a report from a boat company at the Oudebrugsteeg. Upon arrival, police found a body, a police spokesman said. The body was then removed from the water. Police have not yet released any information about the identity of the victim. The cause is being investigated.
 
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I’m also wondering about his tattoos. Were they fully healed? How old were they, approximately? Did they ask (local) tattoo artists if they’ve done pieces like his? It seems to me that his tattoos are unique enough to remember.
 
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Moussa SOUMAURO Do you think this might be a good match? He is wearing a Belgium shirt, but there’s not enough info to rule him in or out. The only difference I can find is that Moussa is supposed to be thinner than our JD. But there’s 7 months between Moussa’s disappearance and the day the body was found. Could be enough to gain weight.
 
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Seems this case has been solved since the webpage was removed!
 
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Seems this case has been solved since the webpage was removed!

That would be fantastic! Would the police provide a formal acknowledgement that he has been identified?
 
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That would be fantastic! Would the police provide a formal acknowledgement that he has been identified?
Nope, unfortunately the Dutch police almost never does that for UIDs, as far as I know.
 

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