NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges, 6 July 2019

[human]

The rich can have anything they want. So what they want gets more outrageous. Young girls. Yippee!

Epstein provided plenty. Just like a cook, cleaner, etc provide services, Epstein provided young girls. Easy.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Maybe they were partners in a huge money-laundering scheme? And they needed the charming math whiz to look super successful, so here's a mansion in Manhattan.

jmo

Ahh, I see. I thought you meant legitimate business partners.

My money (hahaha see what I did there?) is still on Epstein's $ generated by money laundering and blackmail.

 

[Anance]

This article is about a high level PR guy named Hay with whom Epstein consulted about rehabbing his image during the past three years, as recently as three weeks ago (they never signed a contract. Hay decided not to work for Epstein). Some (bizarre) suggestions Hay made:

Hay says he outlined an aggressive strategy to launder Epstein’s soiled reputation, including entering institutional rehab for sex addition; receiving spiritual counseling from a rabbi; and signing Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates’ Giving Pledge to donate the bulk of his wealth to good causes, which would involve not only liquidating his estate once he died, but also donating up to $50 million a year to charities relevant to his crimes while he was alive.

Audaciously, Hay even offered to arrange an audience for Epstein with Pope Francis. The idea was for a coup-de-publicité where Epstein would confess his sins and receive forgiveness from the highest earthly authority. (Whether he could deliver the Pope is another question entirely.)

Hay also encouraged Epstein to discuss this penance with the media: An exclusive interview with T&C perhaps, or maybe the New York Times. (This idea had not yet been pitched to either publication when Epstein was arrested last week on sex trafficking charges.)

Inside Jeffrey Epstein's Secret Plan to Rehabilitate His Image

Epstein would never agree to all that confessing & public penance. Yet, without it, no viable PR strategy would work. Back in the 90s, I heard of socialites offering social introductions for a fee, JE probably went this route.

 

[Anance]

Problem is, anybody with a brain knows there is no "rehabbing" for this sickness. No treatment "cures" this, no donation will soften the intense disgust, no photo op with the Pope will remove the horrific images/actions JE has given the world. Sorry Epstein, you are evil. Your mask is off. Everybody knows who you are. Only thing we want is justice and names.

Chemical castration exists for a reason. Really, without undergoing this procedure, can Jeffrey "Needs Sex 4 Times A Day" Epstein be trusted. Should have been part of his rehab plan to reenter Manhattan society. OMG, what a snob JE is.

 

[LaborDayRN]

BBM

Speaking of the bolded part of your post...
New NYT article today: Epstein’s deep ties to Top Wall Street Figures:

I’m amazed that these people were snowed by Epstein!

Jeffrey Epstein’s Deep Ties to Top Wall Street Figures

I'm going to guess Epstein provided a "service" (makes me sick to type that) to these people that was hard to come by discreetly.

 

[LaborDayRN]

But what does Wexner get in return for handing over the mansion to JE?

Silence

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Epstein would never agree to all that confessing & public penance. Yet, without it, no viable PR strategy would work. Back in the 90s, I heard of socialites offering social introductions for a fee, JE probably went this route.

Speaking of which, I wonder how much money Ghislaine Maxwell actually had after her father died. IIRC, after he took the final plunge it was revealed that his finances were in deep trouble and he had been embezzling from one of his company's employee pension funds for a long time.

I don't have a link for any of this because I'm going by my own memory. I remember this only because in the 90s I worked for a company that Maxwell influenced, and not in a good way.

In fact, when I first heard of the Ghislaine Maxwell-Epstein link, my first thought was, THAT Ghislaine Maxwell that the yacht Lady Ghislaine was named after? No way!

But it was indeed the same person.

 

[Inthedetails]

Ahh, I see. I thought you meant legitimate business partners.

My money (hahaha see what I did there?) is still on Epstein's $ generated by money laundering and blackmail.

I think laundering was the big business - but complicated with other involvements too (like the abuse of the young teens).

We've heard about the donations JE made, but haven't heard anything about people paying HIM.

I think the movement of money is what his business was, hiding the flow of money. Why? For whom?

I also think the thrill of manipulating people, markets, policy, maybe even governments also was also part of his game.

Still can't figure it all out.

mo

 

[Anance]

My money (hahaha see what I did there?) is still on Epstein's $ generated by money laundering and blackmail.

My guess: Epstein's wealth derives from insider trading, money laundering and sex trafficking. IMHO, the blackmail only occurs when Epstein (or one of his gang) need something critical from another member. Otherwise, word gets around billionaires that Epstein is a set-up trap. MOO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Silence

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

I thought the OP was referring to a legitimate business partnership.

 

[Anance]

I also think the thrill of manipulating people, markets, policy, maybe even governments also was also part of his game.

Still can't figure it all out.

mo

BBM

I think so, too. Imagine how easy it would have been for Epstein to simply liquidate his real estate and move to a country with lax sex enforcement laws - i.e. Thailand. But NO! He wanted to reenter Manhattan society at the same level in which he left it.

 

[Inthedetails]

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

I thought the OP was referring to a legitimate business partnership.

I think we can make the general assumption that nothing about JE is legit business.

jmo

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I think we can make the general assumption that nothing about JE is legit business.

jmo

Agreed.

 

[nanwv]

meant legitimate business partners.

You'd think this savant would have one trackable, legitimate business for curious minds and the nosey tax man.

Our non social register types, have a 24 hour taco store in our neck of the Sonoran desert.

 

[1&2&3]

Nothing is ever as it seems. What we are seeing or hearing is just what the hidden players want us to know. It is much deeper than we could imagine.

 

[Lilibet]

Speaking of which, I wonder how much money Ghislaine Maxwell actually had after her father died. IIRC, after he took the final plunge it was revealed that his finances were in deep trouble and he had been embezzling from one of his company's employee pension funds for a long time.

I don't have a link for any of this because I'm going by my own memory. I remember this only because in the 90s I worked for a company that Maxwell influenced, and not in a good way.

In fact, when I first heard of the Ghislaine Maxwell-Epstein link, my first thought was, THAT Ghislaine Maxwell that the yacht Lady Ghislaine was named after? No way!

But it was indeed the same person.

I’m too lazy to look for the link but in one of the articles about GM I posted, I think she ended up with $100K per year. You’re right about her father.

 

[nanwv]

But our guy JE has nothing, too entitled, to protected, nothing to be concerned about. JE our modern day

Alfed R Neuman.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I have a credit-monitoring service that sends me other alerts including identifying the registered sex offenders in my neighborhood.

At last count there were, say, about 15.

Of those, at least 13 were there because their offenses related to minors.

Based on that alone, I think Jeffie tapped into a market that most of us had no idea existed.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I’m too lazy to look for the link but in one of the articles about GM I posted, I think she ended up with $100K per year. You’re right about her father.

Hmm. $100K a year won't buy diddly squat in the hallowed echelons of the Upper East Side.

 

[Lilibet]

I think we can make the general assumption that nothing about JE is legit business.

jmo

On that note there’s this:

Somewhere between working at Bear Stearns and meeting Les Wexner, Epstein was recruited by Steven Hoffenberg as a consultant, making $25,000 a month. Hoffenberg is the former owner of the New York Post. In 1997, Hoffenberg, then head of Towers Financial went to jail for running one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in history, defrauding investors of over $450 million. According to Hoffenberg, Epstein was intimately involved in the scheme and the only reason his name never came up was because Hoffenberg pleaded guilty and never went “in for elaborate discovery.” Hoffenberg’s claims resurfaced in a 2018 lawsuit filed against Epstein, in which the latter is referred to as an “uncharged co-conspirator.” According to both Hoffenberg and the lawsuit, much of Epstein’s fortune came from this Ponzi-scheme, which overlapped with Epstein’s relationship with Wexner. The suit was dropped in October of 2018 and has not been reopened. Hoffenberg has also reported that Epstein showed predatory behavior towards young girls during their time together.

The Strange Connection Between Victoria’s Secret Billionaire and Jeffrey Epstein

More detail from the link cited in the quote above. I’m not sure if it’s MSM, but it looks accurate IMO.
Jeffrey Epstein’s fortune is built on fraud, a former mentor says