NY NY - Brooklyn, Ave X & Ocean Pkwy, *GRAPHIC* WhtMale 70-80, UP5667, hit by car, living photo, Sep'03

[Grungster]

713UMNY - Unidentified Male

Hospital photograph of victim. To view a postmortem photograph of the victim, click here.

Date of Discovery: September 21, 2003
Location of Discovery: Brooklyn, Kings County, New York
Date of Death: June 13, 2004
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Cardiopulmonary arrest following an auto/pedestrian accident

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 70-80 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 5'1"
Weight: 106-130 lbs.
Hair Color: Gray, salt and pepper
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Slim to medium build. Light complexion. Scar on midline of abdomen.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Not available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim was struck by a vehicle in the vicinity of Ocean Parkway and Avenue X in Brooklyn in the confines of the 61st Precinct, at 06:00 on September 21, 2003.

He remained unresponsive at the Lutheran Medical Center until his death in June 2004.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: New York County Medical Examiner
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 1-212-447-2770
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: K04-03052

Agency Name: New York Missing Persons Squad
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 1-212-694-7781
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: Unknown

NCIC Case Number: U740005824
NamUs Case Number:5667

Information Source(s)
NamUs
New York Police Department

Admin Notes
Added: 11/23/05; Last Updated: 4/26/17

Questions or comments? Please contact appropriate member of the Area Team

** Listed information may be estimated.

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[Grungster]

I would like to warn you, while I haven't looked at it, the post-mortem photo is VERY graphic, to what I heard. I haven't looked on his NamUs but I wonder if there is a better quality hospital photograph on the NamUs.

 

[Triss]

TBH it depends on what you consider to be very graphic. It's not that bad IMHO, I've seen worse PM photos.
This case is so sad and solvable. Is nobody looking for him?

 

[annemc2]

TBH it depends on what you consider to be very graphic. It's not that bad IMHO, I've seen worse PM photos.
This case is so sad and solvable. Is nobody looking for him?

I agree, it's not terribly graphic but not as "useful" as the live photo. It seems similar yet not as sharp.

The position of his mouth looks like maybe he'd had a stroke in the past. The other thing I think of is tardive dyskinesia, which can happen when someone is on certain medications (usually antipsychotics) for an extended period of time. I'll never forget going on rounds with my dad in the nursing home when I was a kid and being scared of the woman with a very severe case whose mouth was in constant motion but would never actually close. Later when I became a psych nurse I understood and was very careful to monitor patients for signs of TD.

One day this man didn't come home. Ever. What happened? It's heartbreaking. I wonder if he was in a shady group home (or had a shady relative) that continued to get his social security checks for awhile after he disappeared. This guy just totally tugs at my heartstrings for some reason. He looks so vulnerable and was so tiny.

 

[Andreee]

I would like to warn you, while I haven't looked at it, the post-mortem photo is VERY graphic, to what I heard. I haven't looked on his NamUs but I wonder if there is a better quality hospital photograph on the NamUs.

you are correct, there should be a warning with that photo.

 

[Susikatze]

Did he have any personal belongings with him? I guess the hospital took them in because they thought someone will quickly claim him. Which never happened.
Imho he does not have to be "white", either, he could as well be Hispanic or Native.

He got hit by a car before 6 a.m. That is fairly early but really does not mean the man was homeless or in some shelter/group home, some elderly just cannot sleep properly and tend to be out and about very early.

 

[Bit of hope]

I would like to warn you, while I haven't looked at it, the post-mortem photo is VERY graphic, to what I heard. I haven't looked on his NamUs but I wonder if there is a better quality hospital photograph on the NamUs.

Good you made a thread for this poor man. Thanks for the warning in the header, but I don't think the PM picture is overly graphic, at least no problem for me. Also our fellow members who are trying to solve the UID cases, know what they can expect. Mostly PM pictures come with it as not all cases have a reconstruction we can use.

 

[Bit of hope]

I wonder if this was a hit and run or if there were witnesses (the person who hit him?) to the accident, who could add something about how he walked/was acting for instance. I suspect not. @Susikatze I agree with you...I wouldn't immediately exclude a Native or a Hispanic/Latino (or a mix) man.

I noticed that in a lot of cases where people are brought to and died in a hospital there is no clothing description. Don't they keep their clothes and belongings to hand them to next of kin or give them to LE when unidentified/not claimed? Does somebody know what the protocol is on this.

 

[Bit of hope]

Does someone has access to the rule outs in Namus?

 

[Tabirey]

Does someone has access to the rule outs in Namus?

Late to the table, but I searched NamUs and I'm not finding him there.
Could he have been identified?

 

[Bit of hope]

Late to the table, but I searched NamUs and I'm not finding him there.
Could he have been identified?

This is his Namus file The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) (Warning, graphic content)

 

[Tabirey]

This is his Namus file The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) (Warning, graphic content)

Thank you so much! I don't know how I didn't find him. I'll blame low caffeine levels! lol

 

[madamx]

Could it be Rene Olivera missing from Manhattan in October 1999. He was listed as 5’4 but has a resemblance

NY Thread 'NY- Rene Olivera, 61, New York City, October 9, 1999'

Sep 26, 2018

The Doe Network: Case File 3996DMNY

Rene' Olivera
Missing since October 9, 1999 from New York City, New York
Classification: Endangered Missing





Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: June 24, 1938
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 61 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 117 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White/Hispanic male. Salt and Pepper hair; brown eyes; medium complexion. Wears glasses, but did not have them...

• madamx
• Replies: 9
• Forum: 1990's Missing

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