NY NY - Queens, LI Expressway, Wht/HispFem 30-50, UP8339, Struck by a car, hubcaps & cans, Jul'92

[Shin Masamura]

*Warning Post-mortem Picture*

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP8339
Female, White / Caucasian
Date Found: July 21, 1992
Location Found: Queens, New York
Estimated Age Range: 30-50 Years

Body condition: Recognizable face
Post-mortem interval: Minutes
Estimated age Adult - Pre 50
Weight: 170 lbs
Height: 65 inches(5'5)
Hair color: Brown
Head hair: dark brown with some gray, curly, long
Left eye color: Brown
Right eye color: Brown
Scars and marks: 4" depigmented scar on left forearm, multiple nondescript scars on left forearm

Circumstances:Unknown Hispanic female was struck by a car traveling eastbound on the Long Island Expressway about 175 feet east of Greenpoint Avenue. It appears that the decedent was collecting hubcaps and cans on the highway when she was struck.


Exclusions: 2
Persons who have been ruled out as the identity in this case
Name: Nadine Timm
ID: 96259
Year of birth: 1935
State last known alive Illinois

Name: Patricia Schmidt
ID: 96258
Year of birth: 1964
State last known alive: Virginia

Location Found
Address 1: Long Island Expressway Eastbound
Address 2: near Greenpoint Avenue
City: Queens
County: Queens
State: New York

Unidentified Person Case

*As I was looking up another UID in New York and came across this young lady from back in the 90's. I saw a missing lady from a year prior and on close up the face is spot on in my opinion. Inset eyes, nose, upper lip, cheek bones, age, location etc. The problem is, height, weight, and circumstances don't line up. Unless something happened and she went homeless for a year and there is not much to go on her back story..Would love the feed back. Here is my missing person....

Xiomara Rodriguez
Date last seen: Oct. 24, 1991
Age last seen: 29 years old
Sex: Female
Race: White
Weight: 115 to 115 lbs
Height: 61 to 61 inches (5'1)
Hair color: Brown
Left eye: color Brown
Right eye: color Brown
Ethnicity: Hispanic/Latino

Circumstances: Xiomara is from New York City. She was visiting Syracuse with her boyfriend, who is also missing. They were last seen leaving 314 Hawley Ave. on November 5, 1991 in their 1984 Four Door Blue Oldsmobile. The vehicle was later found unoccupied in upper Onondaga Park.

Missing Person Case

 

[madamx]

*Warning Post-mortem Picture*

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP8339
Female, White / Caucasian
Date Found: July 21, 1992
Location Found: Queens, New York
Estimated Age Range: 30-50 Years

Body condition: Recognizable face
Post-mortem interval: Minutes
Estimated age Adult - Pre 50
Weight: 170 lbs
Height: 65 inches(5'5)
Hair color: Brown
Head hair: dark brown with some gray, curly, long
Left eye color: Brown
Right eye color: Brown
Scars and marks: 4" depigmented scar on left forearm, multiple nondescript scars on left forearm

Circumstances:Unknown Hispanic female was struck by a car traveling eastbound on the Long Island Expressway about 175 feet east of Greenpoint Avenue. It appears that the decedent was collecting hubcaps and cans on the highway when she was struck.


Exclusions: 2
Persons who have been ruled out as the identity in this case
Name: Nadine Timm
ID: 96259
Year of birth: 1935
State last known alive Illinois

Name: Patricia Schmidt
ID: 96258
Year of birth: 1964
State last known alive: Virginia

Location Found
Address 1: Long Island Expressway Eastbound
Address 2: near Greenpoint Avenue
City: Queens
County: Queens
State: New York

Unidentified Person Case

*As I was looking up another UID in New York and came across this young lady from back in the 90's. I saw a missing lady from a year prior and on close up the face is spot on in my opinion. Inset eyes, nose, upper lip, cheek bones, age, location etc. The problem is, height, weight, and circumstances don't line up. Unless something happened and she went homeless for a year and there is not much to go on her back story..Would love the feed back. Here is my missing person....

Xiomara Rodriguez
Date last seen: Oct. 24, 1991
Age last seen: 29 years old
Sex: Female
Race: White
Weight: 115 to 115 lbs
Height: 61 to 61 inches (5'1)
Hair color: Brown
Left eye: color Brown
Right eye: color Brown
Ethnicity: Hispanic/Latino

Circumstances: Xiomara is from New York City. She was visiting Syracuse with her boyfriend, who is also missing. They were last seen leaving 314 Hawley Ave. on November 5, 1991 in their 1984 Four Door Blue Oldsmobile. The vehicle was later found unoccupied in upper Onondaga Park.

Missing Person Case

Xiomara looked pretty good until I noticed what you said about height and weight. It seems like she Lao went missing upstate? No?
.I don't live to far from where the UID was killed and it is pretty much right in between Queens and Brooklyn. Near Greenpoint Ave which on the Brooklyn side has (or had) lots of metal scrap yards. Iam assuming that is where she was taking the hubcaps. I wonder if they ever went to the scrap yards to see if anyone knew her?

 

[madamx]

I came across this woman that reminded me of this UID and I think her height might be closer. She went missing a couple of years earlier but I thought I would post her anyway. The Doe Network: Case File 2678DFNY

Olynthia Harper
Missing since September 20, 1985 from Syracuse, Onondaga County, New York
Classification: Missing





Vital Statistics

• • Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 130 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Black female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
  • Clothing: Jean jacket and tan pants.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Olynthia left her two children with an acquaintance at 747 West Onondaga Street, on 20 September 1985, at approximately 23:00. Harper never returned and has not been seen since.
She was know to frequent the various parks on South Avenue.

 

[Shin Masamura]

I came across this woman that reminded me of this UID and I think her height might be closer. She went missing a couple of years earlier but I thought I would post her anyway. The Doe Network: Case File 2678DFNY

Olynthia Harper
Missing since September 20, 1985 from Syracuse, Onondaga County, New York
Classification: Missing





Vital Statistics

• • Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 130 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Black female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
  • Clothing: Jean jacket and tan pants.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Olynthia left her two children with an acquaintance at 747 West Onondaga Street, on 20 September 1985, at approximately 23:00. Harper never returned and has not been seen since.
She was know to frequent the various parks on South Avenue.

Nice find, I would think to turn it in. They wrote back to me almost immediately, (not with an answer) but that they submitted it. Height is always key to me when they find a "recognizable" decedent.

 

[Moonwalker9]

Warning PM

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Case Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case NumberQ92-03685
Demographics
SexFemale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 50
Estimated Age Range (Years)30-50
Estimated Year of Death1992
Estimated PMIMinutes
Height5' 5"(65 inches) , Measured
Weight170 lbs, Measured
Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date FoundJuly 21, 1992
NamUs Case CreatedJanuary 4, 2011
ME/C QA ReviewedJanuary 5, 2011
Location Found Map
Street AddressLong Island Expressway Eastbound near Greenpoint AvenueQueens, New York
CountyQueens County
GPS Coordinates40.736759, -73.930537
Circumstances of RecoveryUnknown hispanic female was struck by a car traveling eastbound on the Long Island Expressway about 175 feet east of Greenpoint Avenue. It appears that the decedent was collecting hubcaps and cans on the highway when she was struck.
Details of Recovery


Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsRecognizable face
Physical Description
Hair ColorBrown
Head Hair Descriptiondark brown with some gray, curly, long
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorBrown
Right Eye ColorBrown
Eye Description--
Distinctive Physical Features
Item
Description
Scar/mark
4" depigmented scar on left forearm, multiple nondescript scars on left forearm


Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered

 

[digitective]

Interesting that it says "caucasian" when the photo really looks like she is Latina or possibly mixed race / light-skinned Black.

 

[digitective]

I came across this woman that reminded me of this UID and I think her height might be closer. She went missing a couple of years earlier but I thought I would post her anyway. The Doe Network: Case File 2678DFNY

Olynthia Harper
Missing since September 20, 1985 from Syracuse, Onondaga County, New York
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 130 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Black female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
  • Clothing: Jean jacket and tan pants.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Olynthia left her two children with an acquaintance at 747 West Onondaga Street, on 20 September 1985, at approximately 23:00. Harper never returned and has not been seen since.
She was know to frequent the various parks on South Avenue.

She looks quite similar to Jane Doe, I think it's worth submitting. Even though she disappeared 7 years earlier, it sounds like both Olynthia and Jane Doe may have been transients, with the hanging out in parks and the collecting scrap metal. So it's possible she could have just been living on the streets during that time.

 

[Melt71]

Still the same 2 ruleouts - Nadine Timm and Patricia Schmidt

@madamx did you ever turn in Olynthia Harper? Olynthia has quite a few ruleouts listed on her Namus comparisons page, but this UID is not one of them.

 

[NYanon]

Searching NAMUS with a more or less open question of race/ethnicity, theorizing the scar on left forearm was known prior to Missing, there only seemed to be two relatively relevant results missing from NY/NJ; I'm not convinced either are good candidates. It's possible the scar was not noted, or appeared after being Missing. She might also have been Missing from another state / no NAMUS case. (Of course, my search could be otherwise flawed, too).

Rosa Roberta Westbrook (aka Jenny Ray)

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[DS2021]

Still the same 2 ruleouts - Nadine Timm and Patricia Schmidt

Still the same

 

[Susikatze]

Interesting that it says "caucasian" when the photo really looks like she is Latina or possibly mixed race / light-skinned Black.

Agree. Looks indigenous hispanic or afro latina or african american.
I wonder if her teeth were rotten or just lost in the accident.