NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*

[arielilane]

It's 9:47AM, and Mangione is giving his real information to police on the BWC, after being told if he lied again he would be arrested-name and DOB. Officer Fox is heard in the background asking why he lied. Officer (Trent?) is heard in the background saying "mirandize him," and Frye confirms. Kaplan has another angle of another officer's BWC pulled up from 9:48AM, and you can hear the "mirandize him" again. It's confirmed to be Trent telling this to Fox.

When Mangione is asked again about why he gave a false ID, he replied that he's going to "remain silent."

Mangione is staring intently at Kaplan, sometimes shifting his gaze to Frye on the stand, from the defense table and taking notes occasionally.

We're at 9:52AM on the BWC, and Kaplan points out at this time, Mangione has been detained, however had given Officers his real information/identity. Officers had the incorrect spelling of his last name for some reason.

Kaplan stops the footage to point out Officer Wassar laughing with another officer. Kaplan points out that out of the now 12 officers, no one has moved the backpack that is now across from where Mangione is behind the table. Mangione's hands are also cuffed behind him.

Kaplan asks Frye how many officers were on shift that morning- he says less than 30. Kaplan then asks, " And 13 of them were at the McDonald's?"

Frye answers yes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996681534833664036

 

[arielilane]

It's 10AM on the BWC, and Kaplan confirms that as Frye is escorting Mangione out of the McDonald's in handcuff's, Fox and Wassar are inside searching the backpack. He confirms.


Kaplan is now asking Frye about the search of Mangione at the precinct. We are shown an exhibit/evidence photo of Mangione's pants with a blue label at the bottom. Kaplan asks Frye- "Does that label say NYPD?" Frye says, "It does."

Kaplan: Did the NYPD take that picture? With the NYPD sticker in it? (Now Mangione's shoes are pictured with the same blue label)

Frye says he doesn't know.

Kaplan: Is it part of the Altoona PD procedure for the NYPD to take pictures?"

Frye: No.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996690435457073477

 

[arielilane]

The young lady’s message is a mess. It does not correlate with LM at all. Its an important message, however, her advocacy would be better served on a blog or somewhere else, rather than at an alleged murderer’s hearings/trial.
To her parents, come get your daughter.

Its only an opinion.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996655264280555952

 

[arielilane]

@conlin_lauren


Kaplan reiterates with Frye that "strip" searches or "in-depth" searches are rare for his department, and he agrees.

Kaplan asks if it's fair to say that Frye spent about 45 minutes with Mangione that day- he says yes. He asks if he was belligerent, if he reached for his backpack, the knife, fought back, etc. Frye says, no he didn't. Kaplan pointed out that Mangione even told Officer Fox he had a pocket knife when they missed it in the search.

Kaplan pointed out that Mangione was "so compliant" that they briefly un-cuffed him at the station because they had no safety concerns with him. Kaplan says, "Correct." No further questions.


4:23 PM · Dec 4, 2025

 

[arielilane]

@conlin_lauren


During the redirect, the state points out that Mangione's ankles were cuffed instead of his hands, when he was at intake at the station. State also points out that more officers were called to the McDonald's by other officers as they arrived and began communicating.

State brings up Mangione confessing to having a knife at 9:48AM and points out that he waited 17 minutes to tell them.


4:34 PM · Dec 4, 2025

 

[arielilane]

State used the term "execute" when referring to Brian Thompson's killing- defense objects to the word execute. State rephrased.

Officer Frye is dismissed and both sides are asked to approach the bench.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996697715552506032

 

[arielilane]

@conlin_lauren


Court is adjourned for the day-9:30AM tomorrow.


4:51 PM · Dec 4, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996698913345061365

 

[arielilane]

JUST IN: Luigi Mangione is ill today. Both sides have approached the bench, we will most likely be dismissed until Monday.

Court is adjourned until Monday at 9:30AM.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996959795232866542

 

[Sundog]

JUST IN: Luigi Mangione is ill today. Both sides have approached the bench, we will most likely be dismissed until Monday.

Court is adjourned until Monday at 9:30AM.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996959795232866542

I thought from the photos that the accused/LM looked fine both days. Wonder what happened.

 

[Arkay]

JUST IN: Luigi Mangione is ill today. Both sides have approached the bench, we will most likely be dismissed until Monday.

Court is adjourned until Monday at 9:30AM.

Hmmm. I wonder if he is ill, or is he “ill.”

 

[arielilane]

Maybe he is having back issues.

 

[RobertCatesby]

I'm sure this has already been brought up but the guys that were at the scene immediately after the shooting seen on the newly released footage were pathetic. I know it's NYC and crazy random stuff happens on the street all the time but I'm not sure how you can witnessed someone shoot a man in cold blood and flee and none of the first guys there made any effort to either attempt to save the victim or give chase after the shooter. They're probably pretty lucky the victim is who he is in this case or people would be probably be pissed about that.

 

[Betty P]

The young lady’s message is a mess. It does not correlate with LM at all. Its an important message, however, her advocacy would be better served on a blog or somewhere else, rather than at an alleged murderer’s hearings/trial.
To her parents, come get your daughter.

Its only an opinion.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996655264280555952

JMO, it was a relevant statement. I’m glad to see that younger people are passionate about health care reform, a problem often ignored. Every generation faces their own challenges and develops their own priorities. They have the right to voice their concerns and work constructively to promote them. They all deserve respect. It’s the American way, as they say.

 

[Betty P]

It's 10AM on the BWC, and Kaplan confirms that as Frye is escorting Mangione out of the McDonald's in handcuff's, Fox and Wassar are inside searching the backpack. He confirms.


Kaplan is now asking Frye about the search of Mangione at the precinct. We are shown an exhibit/evidence photo of Mangione's pants with a blue label at the bottom. Kaplan asks Frye- "Does that label say NYPD?" Frye says, "It does."

Kaplan: Did the NYPD take that picture? With the NYPD sticker in it? (Now Mangione's shoes are pictured with the same blue label)

Frye says he doesn't know.

Kaplan: Is it part of the Altoona PD procedure for the NYPD to take pictures?"

Frye: No.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996690435457073477

Why was Altoona PD presenting evidence in court from the NYPD? That’s rather confusing. Why did they take so long to Mirandize him, even though they were reminded to do so? Did they expect to gain something from that strategy? At first I thought it was just an oversight, but it appears the officer knew what he was doing. It’s very confusing. He really hurt his case by doing that. I’m not sure how much of it will survive.

JMO.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Why did they take so long to Mirandize him, even though they were reminded to do so?

That is a good question that deserves an answer.

 

[Sundog]

They're probably pretty lucky the victim is who he is in this case or people would be probably be pissed about that.

<Snipped for focus>

The victim is a father, husband, son, brother, etc. Anyone who is not "pissed" about that has some serious soul searching to do, if they have a soul, that is.

**Justice for Brian Thompson**​

 

[mrC]

the paying custemers hedeied emergency medical care to were also fathers husbands and sons

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I'm not sure how you can witnessed someone shoot a man in cold blood and flee and none of the first guys there made any effort to either attempt to save the victim or give chase after the shooter.

Are we talking about members of the public on the scene or law enforcement?

Because members of the public don't need to chase someone who has a gun and risk being shot themselves, nor might they be interested in coming into contact with blood from the victim, sad as that is.

I hope I would at least apply pressure to someone's wounds, but I can imagine worrying about the possibility of blood-borne pathogen exposure.

 

[mrC]

how did the killer get away i wonder did the walk drive or use the subway

take neres of steel to do that and get away on foot

 

[Arkay]

I'm sure this has already been brought up but the guys that were at the scene immediately after the shooting seen on the newly released footage were pathetic. I know it's NYC and crazy random stuff happens on the street all the time but I'm not sure how you can witnessed someone shoot a man in cold blood and flee and none of the first guys there made any effort to either attempt to save the victim or give chase after the shooter. They're probably pretty lucky the victim is who he is in this case or people would be probably be pissed about that.

As a lifelong New Yorker, this is not a gun city and the majority of law-abiding people do not own or carry guns.

Given that the murderer, identity unknown at the time, clearly had a gun and shot someone, I think the majority of those who witnessed it would have called 911.

Then the police and EMTs would arrive and an unarmed citizen passing by would not risk being gunned down, too. Chasing an armed shooter when you are unarmed is a recipe for a second murder on the street.

Personally I wouldn’t even know the first thing about how to help the victim and would be afraid to make it worse if he were still alive. Had I witnessed this, I would have called 911 as soon as I removed myself from the immediate area of the shooter.



JMO and experience.