NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*

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Wasser confirms that during the morning Roll Call, the NY Ceo Shooter was not discussed at the department.

We are watching BWC footage (at the McDonald's) from 9:44AM. She is shown entering the McDonald's saying "WHEW," and explains because she almost slipped on the wet floor.

She confirms Hanley was the highest ranking officer there.


Wasser confirms she was wearing her BWC, but did not activate it upon entering- she activated later. She says that normally when interacting with a suspect, she would activate it, and she was not interacting yet.

Wasser points to Mangione and identifies him at the defense table as the defendant.


BWC continues to play, and we hear Detweiler ask her to check the female bathroom. She does, and confirms nothing was out of the ordinary.

She is handed the false ID from Detweiler, and confirms after being shown the evidence exhibit of the Mark Rosario ID, that is what she was handed and holding.


Its 9:55AM, and BWC continues to play. She is asked about what dispatch is saying in the background, but she can't make it out.

9:56AM-9:58AM, it shows Mangione being placed into custody. Wasser says she then walked over to the backpack in the corner and picked it up- she describes it as being "heavy."


Mangione is looking over at Kaplan's laptop while the BWC plays- now he's taking notes.

Officer McCoy is overheard saying, "that's fine," and "we're going to take him in" at 9:58AM. Wasser is seen putting on gloves in the corner, and state asks her to confirm she put the gloves on after his arrest.


 
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McCoy says at 9:58AM, "Is there anything in the bag I need to be aware of," to Mangione. Wasser says she is looking at Mangione to answer the question on the BWC (she is)- she confirms that Mangione said he was going to "remain silent."

State: Did his answer have an effect on the search of the bag?

Wasser: It heightened it, like there was something we should be aware of.

We are now watching the search from Fox's BWC, where she starts with the top part of the bag. Wasser confirms she first removes a knife, I believe. The next two items were a hoagie and bread..


We are watching the search by Fox and Wasser from Fox's BWC. Trent is overheard telling Wasser to check the bags for bombs when back at the station, and she replies, " I'd like to check it now," and says, "I want to make sure there's nothing that's gonna..."

And Fox is overheard saying he'd "rather it go off here, than at the station," followed by laughter. Wasser says she didn't want to "pull a Moser."

State says, can you help me with this one?

Wasser explains Officer Moser once brought bomb back to the police station, and she didn't want it to happen to her. She goes onto say that she knew a homicide had occured (in NY), so again, her concerns were heightened while searching.


BWC of search continues to play...


Wasser then pulls out a cell phone, passport and a wallet, from a faraday bag (intended to hide signals, says the state), followed by an objection.


Around 10AM, Fox has some kind of cardboard and tape, and tells Wasser he thinks they can "throw it away." She continues to search the backpack, and is now holding "wet grey underwear" where she found a magazine with bullets. She displays it on camera, and reiterates on the stand that the underwear was wet.

Another officer is overheard saying, "It's f*cking him." She is told not to place the mag on the table for DNA reasons. She tells Officer Miller that she was still feeling around the backpack to ensure there was not a bomb. She was satisfied.

At 10:05AM, Wasser is seen placing the items back where she found them in the backpack to bring back to the station. The state is asking her about the searches and inventory generally performed at intake- she repeats what previous Officers have said on the stand regarding everything on a suspect's person, clothes etc.

 
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It's 10:03AM, Wasser can be overheard saying, "everything is so wet." Officer Fox says, "We're going to have to finish back at the station."

Trent mentions getting a search warrant about the bag, but Fox says they don't need one because "search incident to arrest." Another officer echoes the same.

At this point, officers are overheard talking about finding a magazine, and one officer discusses a search warrant again because of the "severity of the case," while a higher ranking officer disagrees (I didn't catch names).

BWC is playing again from another angle where it's 10:01AM, and Wasser is searching the backpack. Sgt Burns walks over to them, and Wasser pulls out the mag from the underwear again and smiles while another Officer says, "It's f*cking him."

We are now viewing the search from Wasser's own BWC....watching her put on the gloves now at 9:58AM..

We see the laptop and CVS bag next to the backpack as she searches, along with the siezed knife and false ID. Wasser first pulls out a hoagie in a container (there is no audio for about a minute), the wallet, passport and phone from the faraday bag (she puts them back in the bag and places on the table). We also see Fox in the background with the "cardboard thing he was trying to open," per Wasser. She continues to search, pulling out a folded piece of white paper, and then unfolds the grey underwear. There is some type of tool in the underwear (she doesn't identify),and then the loaded magazine.

 
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Wasser confirms she searched again for bombs before putting everything back in the bag where she found it. I noticed most of the evidence was placed on the bare McDonald's table.

The evidence is placed in a brown paper McDonald's bag (False ID, Hoagie, Bread, Laptop, CVS Bag). All other evidence is back in the bag and both are transported back to the station. Short Recess.

 
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Imo, the defendant allegedly execution of Brian Thompson was not about health care reform.

Yes, everyone, no matter age, has the right to voice opinion about health care reform, as it affects as all; however, at a murder hearings/trials. No, (imo).

In addition, there are several (not sure the count) young ladies there supporting the defendant. I ask, is this their way of tainting the jury?

IIRC, she wasn't advocating her POV inside the courtroom, right? I thought she was outside. Protestors outside of courthouses is not a rare occurrence in the U.S.

I agree that advocacy for or against a defendant is always a problem for a jury pool, especially when its getting a lot of media coverage. The judge has to deal with that as best he or she can. That kind of thing has been around since before the days of Lizzie Borden's trial.


It was the Supreme Court decision Sheppard v. Maxwell that first allowed a mistrial for a defendant who was affected by pre-trial publicity.

Compared to the extreme pre-trial publicity of some previous trials, this one isn't the worst so far. JMO, the pretrial publicity thus far seems to favor both sides, so that helps. But, in the end, a lot relies on the judge's ability to keep the jurors from being influenced by it.
 
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Wasser states that Fox gives the McDonald's bag to her, as he is dispatched somewhere else, and she transports the McD bag & backpack to the station. We are watching footage upon her arrival to the Altoona PD, where she is shown in the parking lot, walking with the evidence.

Wasser explains the search-incident-to-arrest policy, and confirms everything and every suspect must be searched for every case. She reiterates that Mangione had layers on, and they had to get him down to one layer, per protocol.

Wasser is asked if this case is common or unusual; she says unusual because of the severity of the case, as the Altoona PD was not investigating it (repetitive questioning).

Wasser confirms she performed the backpack search at 10:15AM in the intake area of the Altoona PD. She says that Mangione was present for most of the search (note, that at the McDonald's, Mangione was escorted out when Wasser and Fox were still going through the bag). We are now watching Wasser's BWC footage from walking into the intake area (she identifies Houston on camera at the desk), and then Holman and Frye.

It's 10:16AM, and Wasser is going through the backpack with Mangione about 4 feet away from her, she says.

She opens up a zipped side pocket that she had not yet opened before at the McDonald's....she then says, "It's a weapon."


Wasser is told to secure the weapon (make it safe), and is told to follow her fellow officer into another room for safety reasons to continue the search. Wasser indicates this was because Mangione's hands were free at the time (though ankles shackled).

Wasser is now in an adjacent hallway continuing the search, and explains to a higher up that she previously found a magazine, and also searched for bombs.

She can be seen removing the magazine, which she says she locked. Judge Carro looks a little checked out.

The state confirms with Wasser that if they did not locate a gun, the search would have been performed next to the suspect.


It's 10:18AM, and Wassar is searching the bag with her higher up. Certain pieces of evidence are found in large labeled envelopes, and her higher up (I didn't catch the name, sorry) is going through it. They are identifying items in the backpack as well, and Wasser is searching for the ID.


State asks Wasser to confirm she was not aware of the actual gun or the silencer at the McDonald's. She was not made aware of these items until the inventory search at Intake.

It's 10:19AM, and Wasser just pulled out a silencer underneath a few items. This was the first time that this was removed.
 
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IIRC, she wasn't advocating her POV inside the courtroom, right? I thought she was outside. Protestors outside of courthouses is not a rare occurrence in the U.S.

I agree that advocacy for or against a defendant is always a problem for a jury pool, especially when its getting a lot of media coverage. The judge has to deal with that as best he or she can. That kind of thing has been around since before the days of Lizzie Borden's trial.


It was the Supreme Court decision Sheppard v. Maxwell that first allowed a mistrial for a defendant who was affected by pre-trial publicity.

Compared to the extreme pre-trial publicity of some previous trials, this one isn't the worst so far. JMO, the pretrial publicity thus far seems to favor both sides, so that helps. But, in the end, a lot relies on the judge's ability to keep the jurors from being influenced by it.
We know how Lizzie Borden's trial turned out, right?

Not sure if youre aware that there are paid activism sites, which offer paid protesting jobs. Crowds on Demand is one that comes to mind.

I will finish by saying there are capable and strong professional judges and there are weak judges.

moo
 
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being it was only a small bag i would find everything you needed to find in one search
 
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At 10:25AM, she pulls out a "SanDisk," and then puts it back in the backpack. We are shown evidence envelopes and a pistol box on the floor.

An officer is overheard saying, "Holy 🤬🤬🤬🤬," upon Wasser reiterating that she found a gun and silencer.

The last week should be corrected to 10:21AM, not 10:25AM.

At 10:22AM, Wasser is seen trying to find the false ID- she finally finds it, and provides to an officer. She is looking through the bag again, and finds toiletries that she puts back.

Wasser has now found the red notebook that she calls, "the manifesto."

On the BWC footage, she says the notebook was "like a journal." She referred to it as a manifesto on the stand.

Wasser confirms she did not find this at the McDonald's.

Wasser was separating the evidence into personal and contraband evidence, but was told by another officer that everything will be sent to NYPD. Wasser is asked to repeat what is being said on the BWC, but mentioned she wears hearing aids and is having some trouble.

Wasser's BWC of the continued search is being played, and she says, "Lots of sim cards." The sim cards were packaged, and not loose. She pulls out a wrinkled white shirt (couldn't tell if it was a t-shirt or dress shirt) out of the bag, and then puts it back. It's 10:25AM.


The bread brand that Mangione had in his backpack appears to be D'Italiano


Wasser says that she pulled out a "hand-drawn" map of Pittsburgh (some say this was a map of Altoona), indicating the map appears to have "directions."

Wasser confirms that she concluded the search, and went back to the McDonald's later to speak with the 911 caller. Defense objects to relevance and they approach the bench.

Wasser knows the McDonald's manager from previously working with her at a retail outfit.Wasser says that the manager told her that she recognized the defendant. The state asks Wasser to confirm that she was "serious" about previously searching the backpack for a bomb. She says she was serious, and the "nature of the crime" heightened her concern. State has her reiterate that she was investigating for PA only.

Wasser stated that Mangione invoking his right to remain silent also heightened her concerns, and no higher ranking officers stopped her to get a search warrant before she searched the bag. State hands her PA's search and seizure policy.

 
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The red notebook/journal is now on the screen, plus evidence like Mangione's real Maryland ID, a passport, wallet, sleeve Whole Foods Visa, and another VISA I couldn't make out. Wasser confirms these as evidence that she found.

The handgun (black) is now on the screen being offered into evidence as Wasser confirms she recognizes. Same with the magazine (also black) photo shows a loose bullet to the left of it), the silencer (also black).

We are shown the magazine pulled from the underwear (state indicates again that they were wet). Mangione is leaning over and speaking to Karen Agnifilo, and the state said he has about 5 minutes left of the direct examination.

We now see a blue digital camera, along with other loose items of evidence (a black and white woven type of wallet, and a small green metallic tool). An iphone was also shown on the screen in the faraday bag and offered into evidence.

Now we see a laptop (Apple) next to a larger faraday bag offered into evidence.

 
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Unopened Batteries (I think triple A but went so fast??), black headphones (small wired) and the sandisk is offered into evidence.

4 small (but different) computer chips or hard drives, pocket knife, zip ties, and a long thin tool, offered into evidence.

Nail clippers, comb, toothpaste, floss, and other toiletries offered into evidence.

Now we see the hallway where the backpack was searched, as it was offered into evidence. State asks Wasser if she would have imagined the CEO Shooter walks into her town....OBJECTION, though she still tries to answer. State has nothing further, and we break for lunch.

 
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@conlin_lauren


Judge Carro said he needed to address the press, explaining that the defense and the state had agreed to release certain pieces of evidence on December 2-one day after the defense requested that all evidence be sealed until trial-but not because of any motions or letters he received from the press. He referenced the Daily News v. Wiley case, noting that while the press may view exhibits presented in open court, they may not distribute them to the public in order to avoid prejudicing the defendant’s right to a fair trial. Carro added that the court is not required to recognize or respond to anyone in the gallery who raises a hand or seeks to speak.

There is now an argument taking place where a man (didn't catch his name) is speaking about redacting some evidence and brings up voir dire, and questioning jurors on what they have seen. Carro argues that statements from BWC will be made "permanent fixtures" before the trial, and that's prejudicial.


12:59 PM · Dec 8, 2025
 
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If I recall correctly, I believe Sean Combs did have paid supporters show up to trial. I would have to look for where I saw that. I am sure it happens, but I see no reason to believe that is happening for LM. I believe he has sincere supporters, especially those of us that believe he may be innocent or having his rights violated.

Edit: Adding a source by The Hollywood Reporter regarding Sean Combs.
 
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who would be paying them exactly
 
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who would be paying them exactly
If I were to guess, associates of Sean Combs or his family members, if not him directly.
 
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whywould asociates of sean combs be paying people to support lugi

surely coombs has enough troubles of his own to worry about
 
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