OH - 2 men charged in attempted abduction of female real estate agent, North Ridgeville,27 Aug 2020

[LadyL]

I can only imagine how many crimes these two have committed in the past. I hope attempted abduction carries a life sentence in Ohio. I'm sick about this.

Mugshots of the creeps at link:

2 Ohio men charged in attempted abduction of female real estate agent, police say

 

[Wild Rose]

She is lucky to be alive.

 

[Dontknow?]

They look deadly. Very scary. jmo

 

[Clair Louise]

I cant imagine why those handsome men would have to abduct a woman, can you?
Some men are resentful that attractive women are not available to them.

 

[Clair Louise]

She is lucky to be alive.

Probably because she was fit and could outrun them. I am not sure how fast they would be on their feet.

 

[LadyL]

when I look at their pictures, I think about victims being shackled in their underground bunker or storage container

 

[Marg from Oz]

Wonder what the end result was supposed to be. That is if they had accomplished the abduction.

 

[Lilibet]

She is lucky to be alive.

She certainly is! In 1995 two realtors were murdered in Medford OR. It was a horrible case. I’ve always wondered how safe it is for agents to be alone when they show a place or have an open house...

On December 4, 1995, Ellis, 53, went to an appointment with 27-year-old Robert Acremant to show him an apartment. Police believed the appointment was made earlier that day. Ellis allegedly called her daughter, Lorri, at 4:00 p.m. to tell her she was going shopping.

Abdill, 42, left the office at 5:00 p.m. saying that she was leaving to help Ellis jump start her car after receiving a call that the car would not start. Later, Ellis's daughter drove over to the apartment complex where her mother was going to show the apartment and saw her mother's pickup. She said it pulled away from her when she tried to follow it.[2]

Ellis and Abdill were not seen again until their bodies were discovered four days later in the back of Ellis's pickup truck, after a cable TV worker reported the vehicle to police.[5] Both women had been bound and gagged, and shot in the head. The bodies were wrapped in drapes and covered by cardboard boxes.[6]

Murder of Roxanne Ellis and Michelle Abdill - Wikipedia

 

[JerseyGirl]

David J. Helton, 45, and Michael W.B. Evans 37, were in a silver SUV when they stopped in front of a home for sale last Saturday and approached a 54-year-old woman.

2 Ohio men charged in attempted abduction of female real estate agent, police say

 

[JudgeJoe]

when I look at their pictures, I think about victims being shackled in their underground bunker or storage container

YES. They have incel written all over their faces. I step way back from either one in any location. Jmo

 

[cluciano63]

I worry about my sister a lot...she is a realtor in the Houston area and although her husband is her work partner/bookkeeper , due to the huge area they cover he can not always be with her on a showing. Right now most showings are online, but normally she has little choice but to show as needed. I am always sending her news of attacks which she may not appreciate but just to remind her of the dangers. This poor woman is very lucky.

 

[LadyL]

I worry about my sister a lot...she is a realtor in the Houston area and although her husband is her work partner/bookkeeper , due to the huge area they cover he can not always be with her on a showing. Right now most showings are online, but normally she has little choice but to show as needed. I am always sending her news of attacks which she may not appreciate but just to remind her of the dangers. This poor woman is very lucky.

I remember a few years back when some attacks were in the news, there was a big push for realty companies not to allow realtors to go alone to app'ts. I agree - I don't think anyone should be alone - male or female.

 

[LadyL]

David J. Helton, 45, and Michael W.B. Evans 37, were in a silver SUV when they stopped in front of a home for sale last Saturday and approached a 54-year-old woman.

2 Ohio men charged in attempted abduction of female real estate agent, police say

yuk I intentionally did not post their pictures cause they're so creepy!

 

[LadyL]

Wonder what the end result was supposed to be. That is if they had accomplished the abduction.

rape and murder IMO
possibly holding in a bunker for repeated rape and torture

 

[LadyL]

She certainly is! In 1995 two realtors were murdered in Medford OR. It was a horrible case. I’ve always wondered how safe it is for agents to be alone when they show a place or have an open house...

On December 4, 1995, Ellis, 53, went to an appointment with 27-year-old Robert Acremant to show him an apartment. Police believed the appointment was made earlier that day. Ellis allegedly called her daughter, Lorri, at 4:00 p.m. to tell her she was going shopping.

Abdill, 42, left the office at 5:00 p.m. saying that she was leaving to help Ellis jump start her car after receiving a call that the car would not start. Later, Ellis's daughter drove over to the apartment complex where her mother was going to show the apartment and saw her mother's pickup. She said it pulled away from her when she tried to follow it.[2]

Ellis and Abdill were not seen again until their bodies were discovered four days later in the back of Ellis's pickup truck, after a cable TV worker reported the vehicle to police.[5] Both women had been bound and gagged, and shot in the head. The bodies were wrapped in drapes and covered by cardboard boxes.[6]

Murder of Roxanne Ellis and Michelle Abdill - Wikipedia

so did he use the first victim Ellis to entrap the second victim Abdill?

 

[Lilibet]

so did he use the first victim Ellis to entrap the second victim Abdill?

Yes. IIRC Ellis called Abdill for help with her car.

 

[LadyL]

Yes. IIRC Ellis called Abdill for help with her car.

how sickening
those poor women

 

[Lilibet]

so did he use the first victim Ellis to entrap the second victim Abdill?

Yes. IIRC Ellis called Abdill for help with her car.

how sickening
those poor women

It was a really an awful crime, unusual for our area. I can’t believe it’s been 25 years. It seems like just a few years ago. I don’t know if realtors do safety in numbers now. The realtor on this thread was gutsy and savvy. I’m sure she knew she could not let them get her into the vehicle or it would be all over.

 

[LadyL]

It was a really an awful crime, unusual for our area. I can’t believe it’s been 25 years. It seems like just a few years ago. I don’t know if realtors do safety in numbers now. The realtor on this thread was gutsy and savvy. I’m sure she knew she could not let them get her into the vehicle or it would be all over.

yep never let them take you to a second location or you're dead for sure