GUILTY OH - Michael, 47, & Trina Kuznik, 46, shot dead at Mr. Cars lot, Cleveland, 14 April 2017

[Guinevere]

[h=1]Car dealership owners shot dead in Cleveland[/h][FONT=&quot]on April 15, 2017 at 8:24 AM, updated [/FONT][FONT=&quot]April 16, 2017 at 12:13 PM

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[FONT=&quot]CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A couple was shot dead inside their car dealership Friday night, police say.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The shooting happened just after 10 p.m. at Mr. Car Sales auto dealership on East 185th Street between Hiller and Schenely avenues, Cleveland police spokeswoman Jennifer Ciaccia said.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No arrests have been made.

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http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/car_dealership_owners_shot_dea.html

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[Guinevere]

[h=1]This link contains video of victim Trina from a 3/22/17 Interview

Woman speaks out about crime, dies weeks later with husband[/h]Updated: 5:25 AM EDT Apr 17, 2017

CLEVELAND —Weeks after a woman voiced concerns about crime in her neighborhood, she and her husband were found fatally shot in their car dealership.

http://www.wlwt.com/article/woman-speaks-out-about-crime-dies-weeks-later-with-husband/9516466

 

[Guinevere]

[h=1]Trina & Michael Kuznik: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know[/h]
[FONT=&quot]The married owners of a car dealership were found shot in the head inside their Cleveland, Ohio business.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The double homicide of Trina and Mike Kuznik, which occurred on Friday, April 14, has been largely overshadowed by the horrific Facebook video murder attributed to behavioral therapist Steve “Stevie Steve” Stephens. A manhunt is under way for Stephens, also of Cleveland, after he allegedly shot and killed senior citizen Robert Godwin Sr. in a random street slaying on April 15 because he was angry at his girlfriend.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Kuzniks’ slayings are unsolved, and police have said nothing of a suspect.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Here’s what you need to know:

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http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/trina...tephens-mr-car-photos-murder-ohio-car-dealer/

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[Guinevere]

[h=1]Two cars stolen during deadly shooting at Cleveland car dealership[/h][FONT=&quot]on April 18, 2017 at 4:33 PM, updated [/FONT][FONT=&quot]April 18, 2017 at 4:35 PM

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]CLEVELAND, Ohio -- An SUV and a car were stolen from a Cleveland[/FONT]car dealership when the owners were shot dead[FONT=&quot], investigation shows.


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The stolen SUV is a 1999 two-door, white Chevrolet Tahoe with gold trim and beige or taupe leather interior, police say. It has a rear gate that opens on both sides.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The other vehicle is a 2008 four-door, silver BMW 528i. The model designation "528i" is prominent and on the lip of the trunk lid, police say.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Anyone who sees either vehicle is asked to call 911.

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http://www.cleveland.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/04/two_cars_stolen_during_deadly_1.html

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[Guinevere]

Vigil for murdered Cleveland car dealers Friday

2:07 PM. EDT April 19, 2017

CLEVELAND - CLEVELAND -- City Councilman Mike Polensek says a vigil is being planned in the community for Michael and Trina Kuznik, who were brutally murdered, along with their beloved pet dog, on Good Friday, April 14, at their place of business on East 185th Street.

The community vigil and prayer service will be held at 6 p.m. Friday, April 21, 2017 at 726 E,185th St., Cleveland, in front of Mr, Cars Inc.

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http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/vigil-for-michael-and-trina-kuznik-on-friday/432501706

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[Guinevere]

[h=1]UPDATE: Reward for info on car dealership killings now $7.5k[/h]
CLEVELAND - Police told WKYC that the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office is offering a $5,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of a suspect in the killing of a couple last Friday.
Today WKYC's Danielle Serino confirms tthrough Crimestoppers' Bill Jelenic that the reward as been increased now to $7,500.

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http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/clev...-dealership-where-couple-was-killed/432222912

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[Tiff23fr]

“It's a hard pill to swallow. You try to help somebody, help a community and then this happens,” Steele said. She said the family was told a cable to surveillance cameras at the business had been cut.

Ward 9 Councilman Mike Polensek knew the victims. He said investigators are looking for up to three suspects and considering robbery as a potential motive. Police could not provide a description of suspects.

“This was premeditated,” Polensek said during Monday’s council meeting. “This wasn't just a violent act against them. It was a violent act against all Clevelanders.”

http://fox8.com/2017/04/19/this-was...-couple-murdered-at-cleveland-car-dealership/

 

[Guinevere]

“It's a hard pill to swallow. You try to help somebody, help a community and then this happens,” Steele said. She said the family was told a cable to surveillance cameras at the business had been cut.

Ward 9 Councilman Mike Polensek knew the victims. He said investigators are looking for up to three suspects and considering robbery as a potential motive. Police could not provide a description of suspects.

“This was premeditated,” Polensek said during Monday’s council meeting. “This wasn't just a violent act against them. It was a violent act against all Clevelanders.”

http://fox8.com/2017/04/19/this-was...-couple-murdered-at-cleveland-car-dealership/

Also in this article:

"On Tuesday, Cleveland police reported that a 2008 BMW 528I and 1999 Chevy Tahoe were missing from the lot and considered stolen. However, a FOX 8 News viewer provided documentation showing he legally purchased the Tahoe last Thursday. He said title paperwork may not have gone through by the time of the killings and he has notified investigators."

http://fox8.com/2017/04/19/this-was...-couple-murdered-at-cleveland-car-dealership/


So only the BMW is missing now..

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[Betty P]

Another car identified as stolen from Cleveland dealership where couple was found dead

http://www.news5cleveland.com/news/...uple-was-found-dead-still-no-suspects-in-case

Now police are identifying another car that may have been stolen. That car is a blue four-door 2006 Mercedes-Benz SL.

The article states LE are also swabbing the mouth of the couple's dog to see if there is any DNA evidence.

I wonder how easy it was for anyone to find the keys to these cars? Did they keep them locked away in their office? If so, does this indicate the killers had worked there before or had staked out the business to observe where the owners kept the keys?

I wonder if they can retrieve any old video from their security cams, or any other cams in the area to see who might have been hanging out there in the week or so before the murders?

It's good to know Councilman Mike Polensek is following this case. He's a good person and will make sure everything possible is done to solve this case and bring justice.

 

[Jfms]

A few things need corrected...... Ages stats to start. I'm new... Pls be clear on boundaries and requirements to correct them. Happy to be here. Happy there is interest
While IMO great detectives are on the case, we need all the help we can get.

 

[katydid23]

Also in this article:

"On Tuesday, Cleveland police reported that a 2008 BMW 528I and 1999 Chevy Tahoe were missing from the lot and considered stolen. However, a FOX 8 News viewer provided documentation showing he legally purchased the Tahoe last Thursday. He said title paperwork may not have gone through by the time of the killings and he has notified investigators."

http://fox8.com/2017/04/19/this-was...-couple-murdered-at-cleveland-car-dealership/


So only the BMW is missing now..

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That makes more sense. I was wondering who would do a double murder to drive away in a 99 Tahoe...:thinking:

 

[Jfms]

They share an obituary
The obituary via google has all info and stats, as memorialized by family.

 

[Jfms]

more would not surprise me in the days ahead.

 

[Lato]

They share an obituary
The obituary via google has all info and stats, as memorialized by family.

this link has the two obits.... http://obits.cleveland.com/obituaries/cleveland/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=185167064

 

[Jfms]

If u notice it appears they are combined. I will re check. IMO this doesn't matter. ....but sad, to me.

Heres a link id like to share.
http://www.news5cleveland.com/news/...uple-was-found-dead-still-no-suspects-in-case

The press conference is interesting to me.

 

[Jfms]

And thats been reconciled clearly. However, its not always about value in cases I've seen.. Its about principal. Imo one cannot put a value on everything. Their lives seemed to mean nothing....... To whoever took them. The cars did tho?
Any car they took was worth more to them than their lives. ?
Why.
Robbery? I don't buy it. Why not wait till the leave. ? Take all the cars u want and no bodies..... Its logical. Imo. Makes no sense. ....a robbery makes no sense. To me. Imo

 

[Jfms]

Means? Motives? Pls help

 

[Jfms]

I have to be cautious here. I can respond to ideas I can debunk with my best opinion. I need ur help these kids...... Need ur help.

 

[Jfms]

Were they making a point? If so.....ideas?.


So. Sad. Three children need monsters in cages. ......not an option.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Were they making a point? If so.....ideas?.


So. Sad. Three children need monsters in cages. ......not an option.

"The assailants also killed their dog, Axel, before making off with two cars, surveillance equipment and computers. Police believe the pair was targeted, but no suspects have been identified."

"Kuznik and Tomola were high school sweethearts who found their way back to each other after marriages to other people, Steele said."

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.cleveland.com/v1/articles/20526523/two_killed_at_cleveland_car_de.amp

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"Detective say they believe the dog, named Axel, may have bitten a robber and its mouth might contain DNA of the suspect.

Police say the robbers stole at least two cars along with surveillance equipment and computers containing records of business purchases."

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-dog-may-hold-clues-to-killing-of-ohio-couple


From the articles, my hope is they can collect DNA from the dog and just maybe the security equipment backed up to a cloud based service. I wonder if the two vehicles taken could have been specific vehicles planned to be taken or just the easiest ones to take. Hopefully those vehicles are found. That might help solver this sooner.

I feel you may have known this couple. Do you know how long they had been back together? I saw the clip/article that they had experienced previous break ins. Had other businesses near by experienced this or is it the reason the reports state they feel the couple were targeted.