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We will agree to disagreeRespectfully, this situation is completely different and is apples and oranges in comparison to what Steve was doing for Kaylee.
JMO
We will agree to disagreeRespectfully, this situation is completely different and is apples and oranges in comparison to what Steve was doing for Kaylee.
The most valid data will be from forensic audio and video experts.The BIL has clarified that 911 call was not from the wife. Unless it is shown to be otherwise, I will take the family’s word over Fox News.
So I don’t think it’s accurate to state that call was made by the victim unless we have corroboration from an official source like LE.
Just my opinion
I don’t think he was able to get very close. He could see a body but also couldn’t provide extra detail when asked, saying “I can’t look.” To which the medic on the call said “I understand.” (The 911 operator had passed the call to a medic.)If she was in bed, and he was on the floor, I’d imagine the 911 caller could have seen both and would’ve referenced that. He only mentioned seeing Spencer - which leads me to believe her body was not found near his. Same room, sure, but not visible from where Spencer was laying.
Exactly this. Arguably similar voices but to me, these sound like two people with different ways of speaking, different ways of pronouncing words, different ways of expressing themselves. Chalk and cheese.I don't think it sounds like Monique AT ALL. The caller sounds younger and not as well spoken as MT.
True. But if people had been arguing in my home to the point of calling 911, and I ended up being murdered, I'd hope LE would at least investigate the reported event.For all we know Monique and Spencer may have not even been home when the earlier 911 call was made. I'm still of the opinion it was a pet sitter or friend crashing at their place. I don't think that call has any relevance to their murders. All JMO
The victim worked in Athens, Ohio.Exactly this. Arguably similar voices but to me, these sound like two people with different ways of speaking, different ways of pronouncing words, different ways of expressing themselves. Chalk and cheese.
If they hadn’t already, I’m sure they are now.True. But if people had been arguing in my home to the point of calling 911, and I ended up being murdered, I'd hope LE would at least investigate the reported event.
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Athens accents are somewhat affected by the university, so the Appalachian accent is often less notable or nonexistent. I am from the local area (born one county over) and I do have it, but I have noticed that, for example, a lot of the professors' children, while they still grew up here, do not have it. As with most accents, mine gets more notable when I get mad/upset. Once you get outside of Athens proper, you will notice more of an Appalachian accent. Full disclosure that I haven't listened to the video, but I'd sooner think that if it was anyone from here, it was a colleague or spouse of colleague rather than a patient (huge ethical can of worms there).The victim worked in Athens, Ohio.
I spent a few days there once years ago. At that time, the town was going through hard times. Furthermore, the town is in the Appalachian part of Ohio.
I noticed that the Athens locals did not have southern Appalachian accents. But... the West Virginians immediately across the river did. I think the river and relatively few crossing points must have kept local accents distinct.
That aside, I cant remember what the 'Athenians' sounded like other than lacking twangs. Does anybody know the area? Could the caller be from Athens? Perhaps she was a patient in a bad situation and the victims allowed her to stay at their home in Columbus.
Thanks for the good insights regarding both the presence of the university diluting the regional accent and the ethics issues behind sheltering a patient.Athens accents are somewhat affected by the university, so the Appalachian accent is often less notable or nonexistent. I am from the local area (born one county over) and I do have it, but I have noticed that, for example, a lot of the professors' children, while they still grew up here, do not have it. Full disclosure that I haven't listened to the video, but I'd sooner think that if it was anyone from here, it was a colleague or spouse of colleague rather than a patient (huge ethical can of worms there).
just trying to get this straight - so Muna is MT's sister in law in that she is married to MT's brother? and the guy in the video looks like one of Muna's brothers?I’m local. So I have a lot of hearsay. Someone in this thread, as well as what I’m hearing locally, are mentioning the guy in the video- his dress, his gait, look like one of MTs sister in law Muna’s brothers. Were they (Muna + MTs brother) the ones in the domestic dispute? Many folks in here who’ve heard the call state the caller seemed to have an accent- this SILs maiden name seems to reflect that. So were they lending money to brother / SIL- her family? Got cut off? Was there a racial / cultural slur used toward her and SIL told perhaps hot headed brother and he came for honor / revenge? Would explain how he got into home, probably had the code from MTs brother / SIL. Also would explain why the dog didn’t alert.
A list of all prior 911 calls, regardless of responding service, can be seen in the CAD system. All CPD and CFD have access to this on their laptops and iPads used during calls. I am certain homicide has looked at prior 911 calls to not only the Tepe address, but to addresses in close proximity.If they hadn’t already, I’m sure they are now.
It's also relatively common for people to move to Athens for college and just...not leave. (That's how I eventually wound up here, as did my husband.) So it isn't super unusual to run into someone who's lived in Athens for 40 years, and still has the Cleveland (or wherever) accent that they imprinted on as a child. I studied in the Linguistics department for a while and there are actually some SUPER fascinating studies on accent and the Athens region. Guess I better go listen to that 911 call and see if it sounds familiar!Thanks for the good insights regarding both the presence of the university diluting the regional accent and the ethics issues behind sheltering a patient.
I agree fully, if the caller was from Athens, she would be more likely to be associated with the practice- Maybe where relationships could be closer and thus more room for confrontation.
As a side note, I was visiting a relative in Athens who was getting a degree at the University. As you predicted, this put me in contact with the portion of the population least likely to have the regional accent. Though I did meet other people they, as you mentioned, could well be "descended" from the University. Or, their accents had become too diluted to quickly notice.
Yes, please listen to the 911 call. It gave me some "accent" vibes- but I have no idea where it could be from. To me, it sounded like a variant of "6:00 news", but with a twist of some sort.It's also relatively common for people to move to Athens for college and just...not leave. (That's how I eventually wound up here, as did my husband.) So it isn't super unusual to run into someone who's lived in Athens for 40 years, and still has the Cleveland (or wherever) accent that they imprinted on as a child.. Guess I better go listen to that 911 call and see if it sounds familiar!
Why do you say it’s obvious? You have no idea where the investigation is. Everyone is a suspect - no one has been ruled out. Please note that people in this forum are only reacting to his public behaviour and comments.I think that the BIL is sincere. As long as LE knows who it was and what it was about, I think we might forget about it. Truly, it is a “high-profile case” for the newspapers and for us. For the families it is a nightmare. He is not involved, by now it should be obvious, and maybe they don’t have the money for a lawyer.