OK OK - Maxine Beatrice Green, 26 to 29, Pawhuska, 30 Oct 1961

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Maxine Beatrice Green
Osage County, Oklahoma
26 to 29 year old white female

Circumstances:
She and her ex-husband left their children with her parents. Her ex-husband returned without her. She has never made contact with her family since 1961.
DOB is unknown; suggested year is 1932.
Height and weight are unknown; range is to satisfy NamUs requirements.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32123/
 
Woman recalls 1961 slaying // Investigators find bones, buttons on Bird creek


  • Jun 10, 1991
PAWHUSKA - Standing on the banks of Bird Creek in 1986,

Norma Jean Ballard says, she finally remembered seeing her

mother murdered 25 years earlier.

"It was a night just like when she was killed. The same

odor, the air felt the same, everything triggered me,"
she said. "I got the shakes and totally freaked out. I

saw my mamma killed. I saw my mamma killed."

Ballard said that in October 1961, when she was 12 years
old, she watched her father beat her mother to death and
bury the body in a shallow hole in Bird Creek bottom southeast
of Pawhuska. Until 1986, when she returned to the site,

she didn't remember any details, she said.

On Saturday, David Smith Investigations of Tulsa took a
backhoe to the site and uncovered bones and dress buttons
that investigators think belonged to Ballard's mother, Maxine
Beatrice Green.
News clippings from 1961 report that Mrs. Green disappeared
a week before her former husband, Hobart Jess Green, was
scheduled to appear in court for not paying child support.
A bench warrant was issued for his arrest, but he never was picked up.
Green is serving a life sentence in the Missouri State Penitentiary
for the 1985 murder of his 20-month-old son, the Missouri
Department of Corrections said. The son's body was found
buried on a Jasper County, Mo., farm.
Much more at link: http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/woman-recalls-slaying-investigators-find-bones-buttons-on-bird-creek/article_0f53cf50-d2a9-530d-aeba-451936a86e79.html
 
Farm combed for graves

Jul 8, 1991

PAWHUSKA - There were no answers Saturday for Norma

Jean Ballard, who restlessly tramped around the meadow her
father once owned north of Pawhuska.

The Bartlesville woman was looking for the body of a missing
16-year-old, which she hoped would lead to information about

her mother's murder.

"I would just like to know what happened," Ballard said,
referring to the 1961 disappearance of her mother, Maxine
Beatrice Green.

Ballard said she began to remember in 1986 that her mother
had been murdered by her father, Hobert Jess Green - a scene
she blocked from her mind for 25 years.
She said her father raped and choked her mother to death,
then dumped her body near Bird Creek in Osage County.
Ballard and Tulsa private investigator David Smith looked
for the remains of Maxine Green near Bird Creek in May.

They found bones that were later identified as those of an animal.

Investigator Glenn Brown, who is working with investigators
Smith and Eby Dunavent to find Maxine Green's remains, said
a witness recently called him, claiming Green was talking
to Cynthia Kinney shortly before she disappeared.

Kinney was 16 when she disappeared from a Pawhuska laundry in 1975.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/...cle_1808eed9-84df-5e92-962a-283846117a01.html

Cynthia Kinney's Thread: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?40484-OK-Cynthia-Kinney-16-Osage-23-June-1976
 
[h=1]Bones to Be Sent for Analysis[/h]June 11, 1991

PAWHUSKA (AP) The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation will be asked to analyze bones a private investigator discovered at a site where a woman says she saw her mother beaten and buried in 1961.

But Osage County Sheriff Henry Bloomfield said Monday he is certain the bones found Saturday are not human. Bloomfield also said he had nothing to show him that Maxine Beatrice Green was buried there.
http://newsok.com/article/2359714
 
The articles are from the heyday of recovered memory therapy and false memory syndrome in the early '90s.
 
The articles are from the heyday of recovered memory therapy and false memory syndrome in the early '90s.

I'm always highly skeptical of people who years later "remember" having witnessed a crime committed or having been abused as a child, particularly in cases like this where there's apparently not one shred of evidence that a crime ever occurred. If there were other corroborating witnesses or something, I might be inclined to believe it a little. But this? No way.
 
I don't necessarily believe that Norma's memories are completely false.
She was 12 at the time of the disappearance and if she was abused it makes sense to wait until her father was imprisoned to come forward.
Grief and guilt can warp your memories over time. I don't believe the bit about the tranquilizers and what would he gain by having the children watch except for power over them?

The brother had made a statement on his death bed about the murder, but it doesn't give detail.

the husbands nickname was Hobert/Hobart Jess "Punch" Green

the ruling of the infant's death was internal injuries from abuse. Most abusers don't change their patterns IMO
Green v. State, 777 S.W.2d 295 | Casetext

Edit: link
 
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Pasted From Maxine Beatrice Green – The Charley Project Updated September 1, 2018:
Maxine was last seen in Pawhuska, Oklahoma on October 30, 1961. She has never been heard from again. Authorities dragged Bird Creek after her disappearance, but found nothing. She cashed a $60 welfare check prior to her disappearance, and at the time, most people in the area assumed she had left of her own accord.

Maxine and her husband, Hobart Jess Green, had been divorced since 1959, had six children, and Maxine disappeared only a week before Hobart was scheduled to appear in court for non-payment of child support. He didn't show up and a bench warrant was issued for his arrest, but he was never picked up.

In 1986, Hobart pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the death of his baby son, James Allen Detjen. The child was last seen alive in the summer of 1984, and his grandparents reported him missing in December. In November 1985, his body was found buried on a Jasper County, Missouri farm owned by Hobart. He had been beaten to death.

Hobart and Maxine's daughter, Norma (later known by her married name of Norma Ballard), was twelve when her mother disappeared. After Hobart's murder conviction in Missouri, Norma said had witnessed her mother's murder in 1961. She said she suppressed the memory until she learned of her father's conviction.

Norma said Maxine was nervous about Hobart coming back to town for his upcoming court appearance, was unable to sleep, and locked all the doors and windows in the house. That night, Hobart came to the back door and asked Norma to open it. She did, and Hobart burst inside and forced Norma, her younger sister and Maxine into a car. Hobart's girlfriend was in the vehicle also.

They drove to the swinging bridge across Bird Creek south of Pawhuska, and then Hobart stopped and took Maxine out of the car. Norma heard her parents arguing and fighting, then got out of the car and saw her mother lying on the ground with blood coming from her mouth. Hobart was sexually assaulting her and beating her, and when Maxine screamed, he began choking her. He told Norma not to move.

After Maxine stopped moving, Hobart and his girlfriend carried her down to the creek bank and dumped her in a hole where an old bridge piling had been removed. They also dropped Maxine's purse in the hole. Then they took Norma and her sister to the creek, held them under the water briefly, and threatened to kill them if they told anyone what had happened.

Norma and her sister were crying and hysterical because of what they had seen. Hobart and his girlfriend loaded them back into the car, and the girlfriend gave the girls tranquilizers, then they were taken home. The next day, Hobart was gone. Norma and her siblings went to live with their grandmother after Maxine's disappearance.

Norma went to the police with her story in 1986, but they doubted her story. Because the alleged murder had happened so long ago and because Hobart was already serving a life sentence, they were not interested in pursuing the matter.

In 1991, Norma hired a private investigator, who dug at the reported burial site with a backhoe and found several bones and some dress buttons, but no purse. The bones were sent away for analysis, first by the county medical examiner and then by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, but turned out to be not human.

Maxine remains missing and the investigation into her disappearance has stalled since 1991. Her case remains unsolved.
 
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On October 30th, 1961, 26 year old Maxine Beatrice Green was last seen with her ex-husband, Hobart Jess Green, dropping their children off with her parents in Pawhuska. She is known to have cashed a $60 welfare check prior to her disappearing. Hobart return to retrieve the children without Maxine.

This was one week before Hobart was scheduled to appear in court for non-payment of child support.

Authorities drug the Bird Creek following her disappearance, but did not find anything.

In 1986, Hobart please guilty to second degree murder in the beating death of his 13 month old son James Allen Detjen. James was last seen the summer of 1984. His grandparents reported him missing December 1984. In November 1985, the remains of James was found on farm land owned by Hobart in Jasper County , Missouri. Hobart received a life sentence for the murder.

After Hobart was arrested and sentenced in 1986, Maxine and Hobarts daughter, Norma. came forward to police with suppressed memories of mothers disappearance. Norma, who was 12 years old at the time, stated that she let her father in their home the night of October 30. He force Maxine, Norma and her younger sister into a car, were her fathers girlfriend was waiting.

He then drove them to the swinging bridge over Bird Creek. Her parents got out of the car, where she heard them arguing and fighting. Norma states she got out of the car, then seen her mother laying on the ground behind her fathers car with blood coming from her mouth.

Norma then states she witnessed her father and his girlfriend carry her mothers body to the creek bank and placed her in a hole where a bridge pillar once was. He threatened the girls, stating he would kill them if they told what they had seen that night. Hobart disappeared the next morning and Norma and her sister lived with her grandparents since. The authorities doubt this story.

In 1991, Norma hired a private investigator, who dug the site with a backhoe. The investigator found bones that were sent to the County Medical Examiner and then to OSBI, which turned out the bones where not human.

At the time of the dig in 1991, a witness came forward stating she had seen Hobart with Cynthia Kinney at a laundromat in Osage, Oklahoma, minutes before she disappeared. Authorities have not verified if Hobart was with Cynthia or is he is even a suspect in her disappearance.

The only physical description noted is that Maxine had dark colored hair at the time of her disappearance.

Maxine’s case remains unsolved and has stalled since 1991. If you have any information regarding the disappearance or location of Maxine Beatrice Green please notified Pawhuska Police Department at 918-287-4545.

Information source(s)

NamUs #MP32123

Maxine Beatrice Green – The Charley Project

James Allen Detjen (1985-1986) - Find A Grave Memorial

Maxine Beatrice Green — Oklahoma Cold Cases
 
Unless I am reading something incorrectly, which is certainly possible, the missing date on this lady is not correct. The article provided below was published on 19 Oct 61 (Thurs) and said Ms. Green had been missing since 4/5 AM on Tues which would have been 17 Oct 61.

Namus and other sites also show the missing date of 30 Oct 61.

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Pawhuska Journal, 19 Oct 61, pg 1
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