I've been to parties just like this, and I find absolutely nothing unusual about it. Haven't been to one where someone rolled an ATV, but I was at one where someone drunkenly drove a dirt bike into a lake. We didn't take videos of this stuff, simply because smart phones weren't a thing.
That's the thing with this case... There are SO MANY rumours around it, it's difficult to know what is fact. I did read posts from approximately 8-10 people who said they had seen the "shower video" but nobody could find it to share it for everyone else to confirm it exists.
We can agree to disagree. I think some people shut down rumors that were causing their loved ones to be stalked, harassed, and receive death threats. For those who have made up their minds that Noah's friends did something nefarious, no amount of logic matters. I hope the family gets real answers.
IMO, the social media has been a dumpster fire of people trying to find their fifteen minutes of fame (or worse) off other people's suffering.
It's been documented in numerous articles posted on this thread, as has stuff about JN. Just go back to page 15 on ward and read each link
Have you ever been to a party where a kid's body was so mangled it was "worse than falling from a parachute" and each kid has a totally different story? So far only one kids story matches the facts (K)
Rumors being perpetuated does not equal "being documented," IMHO. Repeating something many times does not make it true. The moon landing being a hoax has also been widely "documented."
One click-bait pod caster said that, to engage clicks. What is happening to these young people at the hands of a rabid, badly-informed crowd is horrific.
If you have evidence beyond hearsay, it would be very helpful to post that evidence directly. Repeated rumors are not really what Websleuths is about.
Nope, but that sure as hell doesn't describe what happens in a fight. I think he passed out on the road, and got hit by a truck.
Very thoughtful and logical points. Thank you. Thank you for sharing what happened in your community, as well. Very sad.
Lack of Blood: if NP’s head injury was closed, there wouldn’t necessarily be a lot of blood at the scene. In the autopsy report, I see words like blunt force injury, subcutaneous, abrasions, hemoperitoneum, subdural hemorrhage, etc that may indicate he bleed internally.I think Noah's death was NOT caused by being hit by a vehicle
Fact: Lack of blood at the scene Noah's body was found
as stated by Jeremie Wilson, sheriff of Jefferson County, Oklahoma who was one of the first on scene
Authorities Reveal Suspicions from Strange Scene Where Noah Presgrove’s Body Was Found (Exclusive)
Jeremie Wilson has been the sheriff in Jefferson County, Oklahoma, since 2017 and he says he’s never seen anything quite like the mysterious death of 19-year-old Noah Presgrovepeople.com
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I had a very similar experience and perspective growing up. Thank you for this.I read through everyone's theories and counterpoints and still have no idea!
Being a rural girl, I know teenage parties can get out of control. I never attended one, but I sure did hear all kinds of stories and see all kinds of pictures. Nothing would surprise me. Teenagers, alcohol, little supervision, various vehicles, after dark...
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if no one really knew what happened and that's why it seems so difficult to get any details. They all only saw part of the events, but not THE event or they did witness it but the alcohol impaired their memory. As an adult it takes very little for me to have a fuzzy memory after drinking. Alcohol hits me hard. I can only imagine what it would have been like if I drank when I was their age. (No wild parties, no under aged drinking. I know, I was a nerd!
