Resolved OK - Pittsburg Co., Skeletal remains, Lake Eufaula, Jan'13 - *RELIC*

[carbuff]

http://mcalesternews.com/x964880879/Human-remains-found-on-Lake-Eufaula

Pictures of the bones are available here. (for those that know what they are looking for)

Those bones look really really old to be black like that.

 

[wfgodot]

Jessica Brown, Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman, tells 2NEWS the remains are prehistoric Native American male bones.

Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...ff-says-remains-at-lake-eufaula#ixzz2IjLhV16h

Well, there went that. Bones also were from one person.

A bit curious that OSBI/ME could make the determination by glancing at the bones.

 

[Kimster]

Jessica Brown, Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman, tells 2NEWS the remains are prehistoric Native American male bones.

Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...ff-says-remains-at-lake-eufaula#ixzz2IjLhV16h

Tied to a cinder block? What the heck? ullhair:

 

[carbuff]

Well, there went that. Bones also were from one person.

Ah, so it's probably an old grave that the rising reservoir covered, and then revealed by the receding waters, or something like that.

That's why most LE organizations don't let the examiners on the scene make any statements before the autopsy/ME examination...

 

[carbuff]

Tied to a cinder block? What the heck? ullhair:

It doesn't say they were tied to the block. They said the cable and the block were either over or near the bones, so could have drifted or fallen there much later.

 

[Donjeta]

Tied to a cinder block? What the heck? ullhair:

Bedford said a cinder block wrapped with a cable was found weighing the remains down, but it could have been a trotline that found its way there accidentally.

Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...ff-says-remains-at-lake-eufaula#ixzz2IjO15lZP

 

[wfgodot]

Earlier reports indicated the remains seemed to be "cut up and stacked." Unfamiliar with tribes using that burial technique. Probably another surmise by the sheriff that leads nowhere.

 

[carbuff]

Earlier reports indicated the remains seemed to be "cut up and stacked." Unfamiliar with tribes using that burial technique. Probably another surmise by the sheriff that leads nowhere.

The bones do look odd in the photo. I suspect we may not have heard the last of this.

Well, we probably have heard the last, considering OBI, but I bet there's more to the story.

 

[wfgodot]

Pittsburg County was originally Choctaw territory; the tribe were moved there from locations southeastward beginning in about 1830 after signing the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek. Lake Eufaula was begun in 1956 and completed in 1964.

 

[wfgodot]

The bones do look odd in the photo. I suspect we may not have heard the last of this.

Well, we probably have heard the last, considering OBI, but I bet there's more to the story.

Conspiracy theories already forming. (At least in my head, lol.)

 

[longtallcold]

Pittsburg County was originally Choctaw territory; the tribe were moved there from locations southeastward beginning in about 1830 after signing the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek. Lake Eufaula was begun in 1956 and completed in 1964.

BBM - soooooo, "ancient" is 1964 or later? Or was it formerly a burial ground? Is there rez around there? Very interesting for sure - also it seems very quick it was determined that they were ancient NA. :moo:

 

[Cazzie]

I hear ya, wfg.

If I had a drum, I would be drumming it to honor the bones. And play the pipe, if I had one.

 

[wfgodot]

BBM - soooooo, "ancient" is 1964 or later? Or was it formerly a burial ground? Is there rez around there? Very interesting for sure - also it seems very quick it was determined that they were ancient NA. :moo:

Not necessarily. Construction could have uncovered a set of bones buried a hundred or more years before; the waters then covered the skeleton as the lake filled. Back in those days construction would not have stopped in order to recover a set of Native American bones, nor would burial grounds necessarily be marked on a map. The lake probably holds many more Native remains.

There was never a reservation per se; lands were set aside for relocation as tribes were moved westward.

 

[wfgodot]

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Forensic experts with the state medical examiner's office now confirm two sets of remains were located, including teeth and skulls.

They estimate the remains to be between 200 and 2,000 years old.

Officials believe the remains were Native American because of the skulls' existing dental structures.
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http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/pittsburg-county-undersheriff-says-remains-at-lake-eufaula