PA - Ellen Greenberg, 27, Philly teacher’s brutal stabbing, ruled suicide but possible homicide, Jan 2011

  • #641
I read it in the latest ME report (the 32 pages one) both in Dr Wayne Ross's consultative report and in the ME's own review/observations of the autopsy's photos.

ETA: the ME Dr Simon noted the haemorrhage on the anterior neck muscles and small bruises on the skin (page 8) but she opined that these are not likely signs of strangulation (page 30). Dr Ross interpreted those as signs of strangulation.
I’m biased but I think the marks are significant. It’s just too symmetrical.
 
  • #642
Whether it was friend or foe, it was NOT a suicide and should have been investigated immediately
 
  • #643
Nancy Grace & Joseph Scott Morgan presented this image of Ellen’s neck during a Crime on.

Image 1 is mine, the second is verified via CourtTvs post as shown here

I can see fingernail marks, thumbprint bruise marks and potentially petechiae or blood. What do you see?

Dr. Wayne K Ross states,

“There was evidence of strangulation. There was a mark over the front of the neck which was consistent with a fingernail mark. There were multiple bruises under the neck and in the strap muscles over the right side of the neck. The patterns were compatible with a manual strangulation.”

I have edited the photos from my quoted post, to better show the contrast and color differences .

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I can see two oval fingerprint patterned marks on the right side of her neck, as well as a potential fingernail scratch/ claw mark on the left side of her neck.
 
  • #644
The fingerprints on her neck surprised me because it now 100% makes me believe this isn't a suicide and something went wrong. My only question is: how could the murderer escape when they are on the sixth floor with only one exit, when allegedly the door was locked from the inside? MAYBE, Sam, lied about the door being locked from the inside to create an alibi and reinforce the theory she killed herself, but thats just my opinion for my previous question IF Sam did it.
 
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