GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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Just stepping aside from the individual in question, I actually have a real problem with this staff member not facing some kind of charge. The cameras are there for safety. The prisoner does not have any control or veto for them being there. They film them all the time - sleeping, dressing, using the toilet. The duty of care breach is one I find disgusting. I don't care who the subject was or what he did - I care that someone exploited that position of power for money. And they're not getting any consequences for it. If you did it in a school, in a hospital, in a public bathroom, you'd be charged. But it's an inmate, oh, never mind?

MOO
I am not putting the individual in question aside, and perhaps it's a question of mercy. <modsnip: Name calling not allowed> has been given much mercy by the system. He could have arguably been convicted twenty times over with the stockpile of evidence the state had against him. Yet, he was permitted to retain his own life, despite depriving four innocent young people of their lives. And he received great mercy in his plea deal, despite protestations from some victims' family members.

The person who committed this wrong in question did not leave four people in pools of blood. The punishment has fit the arguable crime, that may be the thinking behind this.

So this person also received mercy. The individual did not technically commit a crime; I've seen no indication of payment, I personally don't think it matters, but all jmo.

The quality of mercy is not strained, so they say. It certainly wasn't with the inmate, so to me, it's no wonder it has not been strained with this individual.
 
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Just stepping aside from the individual in question, I actually have a real problem with this staff member not facing some kind of charge. The cameras are there for safety. The prisoner does not have any control or veto for them being there. They film them all the time - sleeping, dressing, using the toilet. The duty of care breach is one I find disgusting. I don't care who the subject was or what he did - I care that someone exploited that position of power for money. And they're not getting any consequences for it. If you did it in a school, in a hospital, in a public bathroom, you'd be charged. But it's an inmate, oh, never mind?

MOO
totally agree. It’s disgusting. Now others will follow and make money off these cameras. Like it’s not bad enough we have a for profit prison system, we also have to incentivize selling video of inmates to tabloids? JMO

edit to add/clarify that whether it was sold in this case doesn’t matter bc someone will make money off of this. The tabloids certainly have made their cash on it, and continue to.
 
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This particular defendant and now inmate has been incredibly vigilant in his pursuit for proper treatment in incarceration. I have no doubt he will continue to be.

In a thread about prison rights in a vacuum, privacy is an important issue. But I'm personally both unable and unwiling to remove this particular inmate's context from the situations that arise concerning him because-- it's his thread.

That being the case, I have little to no interest personally in anything that was leaked concerning this inmate. There will be no profit in terms of my personal interest because I don't really care what was leaked. Minimal interest.

I don't view it as my mission to protect this inmate's privacy rights. There are mechanisms in place for dealing with the violation and it sounds like it's been addressed. There is unfortunately no mechanism for what this inmate who is the subject of the thread has done.
 
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I believe there is a ream of new documents unsealed.

My personal favorite -- AT arguing that the tens of thousands of tips that LE received represent multiple alternative suspects and that their defense expert will show that multiple people commit the crime -- and none of those people include her precious defendant.

JMO

 
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I believe there is a ream of new documents unsealed.

My personal favorite -- AT arguing that the tens of thousands of tips that LE received represent multiple alternative suspects and that their defense expert will show that multiple people commit the crime -- and none of those people include her precious defendant.

JMO


Apologies, not closely following are there new docs unsealed? TIA
 
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Something is bothering me from the PCA. I believe Brett Payne said XK was found with her feet facing the east and her head facing the west. This has always bothered me.

I then read recently that both KG and MM were found with their feet to the east and heads to the west. I don't think it would be possible for this to happen coincidentally.

Is this part of the reason they thought they were dealing with a serial killer originally? Evidence of posing. I would like this to stop bothering me. Just throwing it out there. JMOO

The other weird thing is that I always thought people got stabbed in the torso maybe some unusual spots. But I can't make sense of being stabbed in the head. Is this evidence of overkill or frenzy? It is just so illogical. JMOO
 
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Something's bothering me from the PCA. I believe Brett Payne said XK was found with her feet facing the east and her head facing the west. This has always bothered me.

But, I then read recently that both KG and MM were found feet to the east head to the west. I don't think it would be possible for this to happen coincidentally.

Is this part of the reason they thought they were dealing with a serial killer originally? Evidence of posing. I would like this to stop bothering me. Just throwing it out there. JMOO

Kaylee and Maddy were attacked in bed and probably not able to get out of bed or change position after being stabbed and it makes sense that they were both facing the same direction

if Xana was facing the same direction, it could be just a coincidence - I don't think he had time to pose the girls considering how fast they think he was able to murder them all

however, I still have a hard time believing how fast they think he was, so there's that
 
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Something is bothering me from the PCA. I believe Brett Payne said XK was found with her feet facing the east and her head facing the west. This has always bothered me.

I then read recently that both KG and MM were found with their feet to the east and heads to the west. I don't think it would be possible for this to happen coincidentally.

Is this part of the reason they thought they were dealing with a serial killer originally? Evidence of posing. I would like this to stop bothering me. Just throwing it out there. JMOO

The other weird thing is that I always thought people got stabbed in the torso maybe some unusual spots. But I can't make sense of being stabbed in the head. Is this evidence of overkill or frenzy? It is just so illogical. JMOO
Stabbing murders of this nature aren't about logic, they're about extreme violence and brutality.

In terms of stabbing in the head, I know of one case specifically that included it, and it was also a case of home invasion and stranger killing, though this was committed by a pair of teens.


There are differences, in that in the Dartmouth case the killers entered by deception in the day and attacked the couple when they were awake, but there are plenty of similarities. The planning, the fantasising, the lack of sexual assault, the extreme violence and overkill. The killers also left their sheaths at the scene.

MOO
 
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  • Bryan Kohberger took a plea deal just days after seeing the prosecution's witness list for the guilt phase of his trial, which revealed his sister Amanda could be called to testify.
  • A newly unsealed document reveals the names on that list, of which Amanda is the lone Kohberger family member, likely because her brother allegedly stole her phone in 2014.
  • Amanda was also included on Kohberger's list of mitigation witnesses, whose testimony he hoped would decrease his culpability should he be convicted of murder.
 
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Stabbing murders of this nature aren't about logic, they're about extreme violence and brutality.

In terms of stabbing in the head, I know of one case specifically that included it, and it was also a case of home invasion and stranger killing, though this was committed by a pair of teens.


There are differences, in that in the Dartmouth case the killers entered by deception in the day and attacked the couple when they were awake, but there are plenty of similarities. The planning, the fantasising, the lack of sexual assault, the extreme violence and overkill. The killers also left their sheaths at the scene.

MOO
Here is another
 
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Yes, and that actor is too attractive. They should shake the ugly stick at him before he appears as BK.
That was my immediate reaction, he is too attractive...
 
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  • Bryan Kohberger took a plea deal just days after seeing the prosecution's witness list for the guilt phase of his trial, which revealed his sister Amanda could be called to testify.
  • A newly unsealed document reveals the names on that list, of which Amanda is the lone Kohberger family member, likely because her brother allegedly stole her phone in 2014.
  • Amanda was also included on Kohberger's list of mitigation witnesses, whose testimony he hoped would decrease his culpability should he be convicted of murder.
I know I'm late to the game and I have not read anybody's posts yet. I just want to add a thought to Dotta's post. Remember when the prosecutor I believe it was him, that said BK's sisters provided nothing of importance?? But, it was Kaylee's father that said one sister provided them with information. That she was very useful. On social media there were people bashing Kaylee's father for making that statement and it really ticked me off. And yet now we can see that he was right.
 
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