GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

  • #1,781
Paywall....

But the headline says it all...

"I taught Bryan Kohberger about mass killers,

here's why we must study his brain."


🤔


Career goals
BK to TA Ben, supp 0133. Maybe it crossed his mind that he could get prison visits or correspond with incarcerated killers like Ramsland had?

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BTK was one of the many serial killers identified by the Cellebrite team (BK's 26 Dec binge surfing)

BK made references to Ramsland to another WSU witness who basically replied that she'd prefer to meet KR off her own initiative, not through BK

Research goals?

In the documents he makes references to his chosen field of study and specific research interests. 'Sexual burglars', ' offender decision-making' and their emotions and that the perps impulses were more important than victimology.
Corresponding with incarcerated killers would be a step-up from reddit questionnaires.
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  • #1,782
Yes that stood out. It's the same female student ( where do you live & which dog) I wondered if he was trying to throw them off because she'd said something like -could be a SK.

Another thing stood out in the documents, although it's not in her show. In the WSU dump the interviewees reference a potluck they held. It was just before winter break and he turned up wearing all black, including black gloves. IDK the exact date but if he's so compulsive and voyeurism is an engrained pattern developed over years in PA, maybe he felt the urge to start prowling again in December ??
I've read it in multiple places that the murderer did wear gloves regularly after the murders. I would not put it past him in an effort to keep his fingerprints off items that could be seized surreptitiously in public.

I believe leaving the sheath and the thought of his DNA being recovered spiraled the murderer. Along with the BOLO's on the WE and the CCTV footage, he was getting more spooked and paranoid as time went by.

jmo
 
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BK and Defense used ASD to explain away behaviors. I am not buying it and it is disrespectful to anybody who is on the spectrum. Just shows you how manipulative he is, and what lengths they go to in applying diversional tactics. JMOO
I also have a hard time accepting any diagnosis the murderer claims to have unless tested recently by an impartial MH expert.

JMO
 
  • #1,784
This sighting could literally be anybody but pasting it anyway. ( Gray's Hughes collects dates & locations and in the future we might get the CAST data on the 23 visits - to match up sightings of prowlers and suspicions)
Also, BK repeatedly tells WSU folks that his hobby is to hike trails & his nearest neighbor speaks of BK often returning home in the small hours, dressed in black with a backpack

Tip line item Supp 134
October 9th at 1.30- 2am, on a trail near the golf course ( Moscow?)



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  • #1,785
From Friday's thread

sometimes I think the Banfield show does it deliberately. It happens so often. You have to click on the old post- for the clip and reply.
Banfield show has been quick and emphatic to call out Dateline's inaccuracies but does the show ever correct itself? IDK

Too many podcasters show Banfield clips and round and round we go
You can copy the YouTube address and add into an AI video summariser that will summarise the video for you. If you Google 'Youtube video summariser no login needed' you should be able to use one without downloading anything.
 
  • #1,786
Keyword search - forests & woods

To one of the WSU grads he'd tried to flirt with ( from the ' where do you live and what type of dog' conversation) 169

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102. Different female TA ( this is medicine cabinet student)
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Feels like this is akin to duping or as if he wants them to ask ' Oh, that's an unusual hobby, why do .....'
 
  • #1,787
This sighting could literally be anybody but pasting it anyway. ( Gray's Hughes collects dates & locations and in the future we might get the CAST data on the 23 visits - to match up sightings of prowlers and suspicions)
Also, BK repeatedly tells WSU folks that his hobby is to hike trails & his nearest neighbor speaks of BK often returning home in the small hours, dressed in black with a backpack

Tip line item Supp 134
October 9th at 1.30- 2am, on a trail near the golf course ( Moscow?)



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If, or assuming that was the felon, i wonder what he was doing there. I didn't know that the college had its own golf course (until I google mapped 1122 King Road and zoomed out).

Dressed in black, hiking on or off trails in the middle of the night?

Feels very predatory.

Why he didn't hike into the house from a distance we'll never know. He might have been able to avoid security cameras on foot. No circling Elantra if he had hiked in from a distance.

While Moscow slept, believing it was safe, the felon dressed in black was apparently lurking in a lot of shadows.

Are we ever safe?

JMO
 
  • #1,788
If, or assuming that was the felon, i wonder what he was doing there. I didn't know that the college had its own golf course (until I google mapped 1122 King Road and zoomed out).

Dressed in black, hiking on or off trails in the middle of the night?

Feels very predatory.

Why he didn't hike into the house from a distance we'll never know. He might have been able to avoid security cameras on foot. No circling Elantra if he had hiked in from a distance.

While Moscow slept, believing it was safe, the felon dressed in black was apparently lurking in a lot of shadows.

Are we ever safe?

JMO
Thanks for looking for the actual golf course. There was no golf course named on that Supp document.

Anyway re bolded, yes absolutely.
It reminds me of that WS conversation we had about the white sedan sightings on the roads behind 1122 and local LE saying Blake Avenue has a well known footpath running along the treeline to the trees behind 1122

BTW, although he frequently raises the subject of hiking, running, forests etc with women, he never mentions star-gazing.
 
  • #1,789
BTW, although he frequently raises the subject of hiking, running, forests etc with women, he never mentions star-gazing.

This "star gazing" bit by Defence was so silly.
As if treating people like idiots.
It actually made me mad haha
 
  • #1,790
This "star gazing" bit by Defence was so silly.
As if treating people like idiots.
It actually made me mad haha
He did have a couple of old dark sky photos of the moon on his phone - the Cellebrite experts said so - so I guess he retrofitted it not realising that the State could go get the exact weather conditions for that night. ( proving that it was overcast and no stars were ' gaze-able' that night)

As far as he's concerned and according to WSU witnesses he always has to be 'the smartest person in the room'


WRT the duping on solo forest hobby and unnecessary info, here's part of what he volunteered to cops after they've just stormed his PA home and zip-tied his parents

Honestly officer - Im just a God-fearing young man. The power of the natural world.

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Considering what we know now, that divine conversion could also be a P/ss take directed at ' dumb cops' ( IHO) and fits your post perfectly

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  • #1,791

  • Bryan Kohberger was the only first-year doctoral candidate in Washington State University criminology program who supported the death penalty, according to students.
  • In an argument with one classmate he told her to imagine that her 12-year-old daughter had been raped and murdered.
  • He also said the victim's family should decide on the death penalty — then took a plea deal to avoid being executed.


"He became a topic of weekly discussion in disciplinary meetings,
specifically in regard to his
'interactions with fellow postgraduate students, in and out of the classroom,
along with his behavior around some of the Criminal Justice Professors'.

Among the complaints were accusations from several women
that Kohberger made sexual comments about them,
including asking a deaf classmate if
'she would be comfortable procreating given the fact she had a disability',
the outlet reported."

:oops:
 
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  • #1,792
🤔
Now that docs have been released, and the dust had settled (mostly) with the case.

Criminal profiling here, and trying to climb into 'bushy eyebrows' mind....it's been now confirmed that the two cross country LE traffic stops had zero influence on the case.

JMO, 'bushy eyebrows' would have needed a heart defibrillator after that second LE stop. At that point white Elantra's were in the nation's crosshairs, and I'm sure he felt the walls slowly closing in.
 
  • #1,793
🤔
Now that docs have been released, and the dust had settled (mostly) with the case.

Criminal profiling here, and trying to climb into 'bushy eyebrows' mind....it's been now confirmed that the two cross country LE traffic stops had zero influence on the case.

JMO, 'bushy eyebrows' would have needed a heart defibrillator after that second LE stop. At that point white Elantra's were in the nation's crosshairs, and I'm sure he felt the walls slowly closing in.
I can't help but wonder how bad of a driver he must be to be pulled over at all, let alone twice in a short span.

Doesn't mean anything, I know, but it's just an odd detail.

jmopinion
 
  • #1,794
With all these stops and discussions with Officers
the journey home seemed never ending.

Dad must have been putting on a brave face 😁

"It's a long way to Pennsylvania
It's a long way to go..."

JMO
 
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He hated women but was tethered to his mom. Looking to level up after the murders. How did he view his mother's role in all this? Did he expect blind support if he got caught?
I also wonder about that. What's the connection there and why did he hate women so much but not hate his mother? I remember Ed Kemper. He depised women because of how his mother treated him growing up and then eventually killed her. Clearly, BK's relationship with his mother is different but I'm just trying to understand how it all ties together.
 
  • #1,796
Haven’t watched this yet but it should be interesting.


Lots of interesting extra details in that new interview.

Couple of them
- he was appealing the TA termination and complained that he'd lost his tuition and his health insurance
- the Cellebrite couple weren't tasked to look at his SM accounts. We know MPD sent subpoenas to a long list of SM companies so there's that still to be released? When the state's attorney office lawyer tells ATaylor ' we have more aggravating evidence' than the WSU files ,I think it could be his SM posts)
 
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  • Bryan Kohberger was the only first-year doctoral candidate in Washington State University criminology program who supported the death penalty, according to students.
  • In an argument with one classmate he told her to imagine that her 12-year-old daughter had been raped and murdered.
  • He also said the victim's family should decide on the death penalty — then took a plea deal to avoid being executed.


"He became a topic of weekly discussion in disciplinary meetings,
specifically in regard to his
'interactions with fellow postgraduate students, in and out of the classroom,
along with his behavior around some of the Criminal Justice Professors'.

Among the complaints were accusations from several women
that Kohberger made sexual comments about them,
including asking a deaf classmate if
'she would be comfortable procreating given the fact she had a disability',
the outlet reported."

:oops:
The how unnerves me. How did he even know his classmate had a twelve year old girl? (Maybe it came up in introductions or discussions but it's creepy to think he sleuthed it, creepy enough he used her daughter to make his sinister point).

JMO
 
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I also wonder about that. What's the connection there and why did he hate women so much but not hate his mother? I remember Ed Kemper. He depised women because of how his mother treated him growing up and then eventually killed her. Clearly, BK's relationship with his mother is different but I'm just trying to understand how it all ties together.

Freud would have a thing or two to say about it.

Guessing it was a complex dynamic. Mother and Father both, intuitively afraid of what he might do, left to his own devices. (I'm going to assume they feared drugs, theft, self-harm, not murder.)

I think he actually hated his mother. Controlling her satisfied his daily fix. He held them hostage, through guilt, fear, fidelity, pity, something. In them, he had an unfettered audience, monologue central, I expect.

Every day they got him through was perhaps a victory, an exhausting victory but a victory all the same. I wonder if he created a verbal fantasy social life, where they may have actually felt he was finding his way, fitting in, etc.

Pool party? He saw it as a fishbowl for phone number fishing. Must have felt quite powerful to him to decide who was and wasn't worthy of his perfect attention.

Where did he get this gross, inflated ego??????

A trove of personal selfies? Shirtless, puffed up chest. Impressing himself over and over?

Didn't last a single term in WA. For all the reasons, preoccupied with his greatness and the crime he was plotting long before he even landed himself at WSU. IMO this was the thesis and dissertation he planned all along.

Heartless criminal, barely disguised by a dress shirt.

JMO
 
  • #1,799
Lots of interesting extra details in that new interview.

Couple of them
- he was appealing the TA termination and complained that he'd lost his tuition and his health insurance
- the Cellebrite couple weren't tasked to look at his SM accounts. We know MPD sent subpoenas to a long list of SM companies so there's that still to be released? When the state's attorney office lawyer tells ATaylor ' we have more aggravating evidence' than the WSU files ,I think it could be his SM posts)
He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion
 
  • #1,800
The how unnerves me. How did he even know his classmate had a twelve year old girl? (Maybe it came up in introductions or discussions but it's creepy to think he sleuthed it, creepy enough he used her daughter to make his sinister point).

JMO

I have had strong weird feelings about this for a while. I think he was trying to shove the death penalty in his Mother's face. Suicide by cop through another form. She may have excessively demanded (they seem to have a prove you love me back and fourth vibe) he save himself, confess, relinquish the DP.

I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade, torturing his family through the process, along with the rest of us now. JMOO
 

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