GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Cool Cats]

I wonder how he funded his druggie lifestyle
I don't know anything about heroin but it can't be cheap

This could be why he stole his sister's phone. To sell it for drug money. Many robberies are to get money for drugs.

2 Cents

 

[Warwick7]

Is that because he believed he'd covered his tracks sufficiently?

That's the idea I was getting also. On top of that he did add his thought process had been going "through different emotions."

 

[Cool Cats]

Is that because he believed he'd covered his tracks sufficiently?

Probably was banking on the investigators not finding his DNA on the sheath. On the other hand he showed signs of trying to conceal his DNA.

2 Cents

 

[LadyL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957968301239501240

people in the comments giving exact times to hear voices
ETA: I can't listen - it's too disturbing

 

[Chloegirl]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957968301239501240

I watched and listened even though I have seen it before. I have new questions but my dog listened intently until Murphy stopped or the video did.. She told me what he said (danger, stranger, he is scared, trying to get responses from loves ones) with an exaggerated response. It is unlike her to listen so closely and then respond. JMOO

 

[LadyL]

I watched and listened even though I have seen it before. I have new questions but my dog listened intently until Murphy stopped or the video did.. She told me what he said (danger, stranger, he is scared, trying to get responses from loves ones) with an exaggerated response. It is unlike her to listen so closely and then respond. JMOO

I saw the edited one too before - my understanding is this is the unedited version, although I couldn't watch much of it

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1958054121107320874

"The newly released documents said
Kohberger could've carried out the attack
in less than four minutes.

One week after the murders,
investigators returned to the King Road home to conduct
'timed runs through the residence',
according to a report from Idaho State Police Lt. Darren Gilbertson.

'The purpose of the timed runs
was to gain an understanding of the approximate time needed to have carried out the murders',
Gilbertson's report said.

Moscow police lead detective Brett Payne tracked the time,
and a state police detective
'walked through the residence with me calling out the number of strikes to simulate the number of wounds to each victim, based on autopsy reports',
Gilbertson wrote.

The timed runs revealed
that it was possible for Kohberger to have carried out the murders
in as few as two minutes and six seconds,
going at a fast pace
on the shortest route to the vehicle,
or
as much as three minutes and forty-five seconds,
going at a slower pace
on the longer route to the vehicle',
the report said."

 

[Inthedetails]

that he became a junky so early in his life is not normal. I mean a lot of kids got on junk on the east coast back in the day, 70's 80's rich kids..disaffected kids but it still is not normal. heroin is a HEAVY drug...it is 60 times stronger than it was years ago..heroin is a lifestyle and the fact that Bryan was on it tells me that his whole studious good boy routine is an act...a total act. He is dirty dirty dirty..he's not confused or just disturbed. He is a drug addict from an early age..he is conniving and entitled...he does breaking and entering..he's full of hate and thinks it's fun to steal from people and go in their houses when they aren't home and tinker with their lives to frighten them.

his mother is a touchstone and the one he manipulates and won't let go of...I'm sure he feels a lot of control over her because he can keep her tied to him no matter what. I don't know how she handles it. it's so sad.

it's almost never a mother's place or part to negate or desert their child..it just isn't really possible..so I understand.

mOO

Thank you - I agree 100% with all of this.

jmopinion

 

[Dotta]

"Bryan Kohberger's Classmates ​

Recall Seeing Him Covered in Injuries for Weeks After Idaho Murders.​

Students at Washington State University told police
they saw Kohberger for the first time two weeks after the murders,
still covered in injuries.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1958093679702253773

• Bryan Kohberger disappeared for a week after the murders, with no reports from any agencies having any information on his whereabouts.
• He returned to class at Washington State University on Nov. 29, 2022, and multiple classmates noticed he had injuries on his hands and started to wear a puffy coat in class.
• Kohberger blamed the injuries on boxing, an indoor accident and a car accident to different people at different times, according to interviews released by Idaho State Police."

 

[Inthedetails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1958054121107320874

"The newly released documents said
Kohberger could've carried out the attack
in less than four minutes.

One week after the murders,
investigators returned to the King Road home to conduct
'timed runs through the residence',
according to a report from Idaho State Police Lt. Darren Gilbertson.

'The purpose of the timed runs
was to gain an understanding of the approximate time needed to have carried out the murders',
Gilbertson's report said.

Moscow police lead detective Brett Payne tracked the time,
and a state police detective
'walked through the residence with me calling out the number of strikes to simulate the number of wounds to each victim, based on autopsy reports',
Gilbertson wrote.

The timed runs revealed
that it was possible for Kohberger to have carried out the murders
in as few as two minutes and six seconds,
going at a fast pace
on the shortest route to the vehicle,
or
as much as three minutes and forty-five seconds,
going at a slower pace
on the longer route to the vehicle',
the report said."

That's info to keep in mind on cases when there are cries "LE isn't doing anything!"

When, in fact, they might be doing something like this and we don't know.

jmopinion

 

[snooptroop88]

This "star gazing" bit by Defence was so silly.
As if treating people like idiots.
It actually made me mad haha

Seriously, I totally agree on this. It's like I'd almost picture him smirking at the idea of actually trying to advance this lunacy in this horrific context.

It made me even more sick to watch him sitting there. He's just a horror.

 

[snooptroop88]

did he have windows? I saw what looked like a window at first but concluded it was the open cubby door ... still not sure ...

You mean in his cell, right? If he doesn't, I hope staff tells him it's time to do some serious stargazing.

He makes me sick. I was grateful for this:

I think, like you, that he will keep his secrets for awhile to enjoy just by himself. At some point though, could be next year, could be twenty years, he’s going to want to talk.
So many times we heard that he was researching and talking about and wanted to know what it felt like to commit a crime or kill somebody.
Well, now he knows. So for that reason I think he wants to sit down and talk about it all at some point. Not so much to tell it so somebody else can analyze it, but to tell how he analyzed it all. After all, he is the smartest guy in the room.

(respectfully bolded)

Right, and now he is the only guy in his room.

Agreed! Probably the only way he could be the smartest.

He can always talk to himself!

LOL, I'm enjoying picturing that!

 

[Dotta]

Oh, and there was Russell Williams- Colonel in the Canadian Air Force who flew the Queen was a stalker and murderer.

Oh yeah,
Russell W.
What a creep!!!

I watched the TV series "The Fall"
(with Gillian Anderson & Jamie Dornan)
loosely based on his story.
Not to mention the famous interrogation documentary.

I read that Canadian Military burnt his uniform.
He brought shame to the Army.

 

[cottonweaver]

imo - WSU dates haven't gone into anybody's timeline yet - not even Gray Hughes - there is so much extra info in the document upload to incorporate ( A lot of work) Some key events are undateable because WSU witness statements often don't have precise dates

Nevertheless, did WSU speak with LE off the record before they terminated him?
I seriously doubt it. They wouldn't even give ISP specific info in Jan 2023 because of FERPA. They asked that LE subpoena WSU to enable them to hand it over to LE. ( Civil suits)

BTW, a lot of the newest material in the msm is inaccurate and doesn't match the dates on WSU stuff which has already been pasted onto WS so they're unreliable sources for any timeline

BK is an idiot, he made it easy for WSU. ( By failing in his grades, his attendance and his TA role and TA workload. If he'd have performed in those roles, he would've been able to fight WSU and drag it out on the harassment and discrimination allegations )

 

[Dotta]

BTW, a lot of the newest material in the msm is inaccurate and doesn't match the dates on WSU stuff which has already been pasted onto WS so they're unreliable sources for any timeline

One can always apply for proofreading & editing position in famous MSM

Combining job with passion!

Only the luckiest have this hehe

Something more:

"Inside the search for Bryan Kohberger:

Consumed by 4 murders,
Idaho police never stopped."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1958106931635065323

 

[cottonweaver]

One can always apply for proofreading & editing position in famous MSM

Combining job with passion!

Only the luckiest have this hehe

I know you don't like people mentioning this Dotta but you must have noticed that we're on a merry go round of clarifying.
There's a reason that Kevin Fixler also has to keep issuing corrections and urging us to ... scrutinize and not take stuff at face value - especially not when people have literally
already posted official sources or actual dates onto WS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1952099738540707893

remember last week's Independent on his wifi touching the Mad Greek?

PS. Lol re that ETA

 

[Inthedetails]

One can always apply for proofreading & editing position in famous MSM

Combining job with passion!

Only the luckiest have this hehe

Well, only AI is likely to have the job, and all our electricity bills will reflect that as AI sucks energy, but not to digress...

I can imagine it's frantic at news outlets now trying to read all the documents and report quickly - especially if reporters haven't been keeping up with details on the case for years.

I appreciate the summaries HERE on WS and the podcasters who read the docs aloud.

As much as I didn't think I would read a book on this crime, it might be useful for the timeline aspect. An author could spend the time organizing it. I really am not that interested in BK as he stresses me out and I don't find him fascinating in the slightest, but I am interested in the timeline.

jmopinion

 

[Dotta]

I know you don't like people mentioning this Dotta but you must have noticed that we're on a merry go round of clarifying.
There's a reason that Kevin Fixler also has to keep issuing corrections and urging us to ... scrutinize and not take stuff at face value - especially not when people have literally
already posted official sources or actual dates onto WS

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1952099738540707893

remember last week's Independent on his wifi touching the Mad Greek?

PS. Lol re that ETA

Oh,
I noticed all right!
And thanks for your vigilance!!

 

[girlhasnoname]

Freud would have a thing or two to say about it.

Guessing it was a complex dynamic. Mother and Father both, intuitively afraid of what he might do, left to his own devices. (I'm going to assume they feared drugs, theft, self-harm, not murder.)

I think he actually hated his mother. Controlling her satisfied his daily fix. He held them hostage, through guilt, fear, fidelity, pity, something. In them, he had an unfettered audience, monologue central, I expect.

Every day they got him through was perhaps a victory, an exhausting victory but a victory all the same. I wonder if he created a verbal fantasy social life, where they may have actually felt he was finding his way, fitting in, etc.

Pool party? He saw it as a fishbowl for phone number fishing. Must have felt quite powerful to him to decide who was and wasn't worthy of his perfect attention.

Where did he get this gross, inflated ego??????

A trove of personal selfies? Shirtless, puffed up chest. Impressing himself over and over?

Didn't last a single term in WA. For all the reasons, preoccupied with his greatness and the crime he was plotting long before he even landed himself at WSU. IMO this was the thesis and dissertation he planned all along.

Heartless criminal, barely disguised by a dress shirt.

JMO

Agree, I think the murderer 'punched down' on everyone around him; parents, classmates, food service employees, the population at large. He constantly felt the need to control the narrative and be the smartest guy in the room.

His parents were emotionally held captive by him IMO. 'Mother' was probably the first female in his life that he learned to manipulate and control. I wonder what his relationships with his sisters were like? Not healthy veering into Creepy I would guess.

jmo

 

[girlhasnoname]

He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

Way too many complaints some sexual and intimidation tactics, poor communication with students and Professors. Yeah, no.

The murderer wasn't going to get his TA job back not if he begged on bended knee. WSU knew he was trouble and a potential lawsuit waiting to happen.

JMO