GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

  • #861
What are people’s opinions on whether the victims’ bodies are in these images, blurred? I’m losing my mind trying to explain that two small white smears on X&E’s mattress is NOT Ethan’s body 🙄 This rampant speculation really irks me and is why I will always prefer WS. It seems like people are actively HOPING there are bodies in these images. It’s quite sickening. MOO.
Not sure which picture you are referencing but if it’s the one with the pink blanket, the bodies had already been removed at the time of that picture. MOO
 
  • #862
Agitated poodles are all voice and all teeth. They have a very long snout, and it's startling coming at you when you're not expecting that from something that looks like it's just had an '80s perm.

In build, they're very like greyhounds. Long and lean with a deep, narrow chest and a slightly heavier bone structure.

In terms of personality, they are not a dog you can shove in a backyard and they'll be content. They're highly intelligent, can be highly strung, they get bored and they get lonely without a deep human interaction. They are very connected to the humans in their lives, and often bond to one member of a family very closely.

One of mine was essentially a rescue. A three year old, free to good home. A family member of mine that is an otherwise waste of space person answered the ad, and they told him if he didn't take her, they were putting her down next week. He took her. They'd shoved her in a yard and ignored her. Debarked her when the neighbours complained. Then listed her when they couldn't be bothered with her any more.

Family member had her until she was eight and a half. I and my partner had her from then until the end of her life when she was fourteen. She was full of beans virtually to the end but had regular life threatening chest infections because of the debarking surgery.

You can tell the difference between a stressed bark, a fearful bark, a playful bark. There are nuances to dog voices, and they do all have their own tone of voice. Even when two dogs have similar barks, you can generally tell which one of them is barking if you know them well, as you would with humans you know.

MOO

To debark a dog????
My God, this is horrific 😲
Is it even legal?
Isn't it abuse???
I regret reading this :(
I have never heard about such barbaric procedure.

JMO
 
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  • #863
What are people’s opinions on whether the victims’ bodies are in these images, blurred? I’m losing my mind trying to explain that two small white smears on X&E’s mattress is NOT Ethan’s body 🙄 This rampant speculation really irks me and is why I will always prefer WS. It seems like people are actively HOPING there are bodies in these images. It’s quite sickening. MOO.
Don't know for sure but all the MPD documents have Ethan lying on his back with his head at the south wall and his feet hanging off the bed to the North. So in a N-S line.

Therefore I don't understand how it matches with what they're seeing. ( They're seeing a shape which is lying differently. I know which one you mean but I am hesitant to paste it here )

The lead detective Brett Payne in Supp 51 MPD Reports - Supplements 51 - 100 - Google DriveScreenshot 2025-08-08 at 22.57.18.webp

I hope people are just mistaken. The MPD document descriptions are all we have but if these people are right and I was a parent, I would not be happy!
 
  • #864
Don't know for sure but all the MPD documents have Ethan lying on his back with his head at the south wall and his feet hanging off the bed to the North. So in a N-S line.

Therefore I don't understand how it matches with what they're seeing. ( They're seeing a shape which is lying differently. I know which one you mean but I am hesitant to paste it here )

The lead detective Brett Payne in Supp 51 MPD Reports - Supplements 51 - 100 - Google DriveView attachment 607081

I hope people are just mistaken. The MPD document descriptions are all we have but if these people are right and I was a parent, I would not be happy!
I believe these photos were taken post body removal. MOO
 
  • #865
To debark a dog????
My God, this is horrific 😲
Is it even legal?
Isn't it abuse???
I regret reading this post :(
I have never heard about such barbaric procedure.
(O/T)
It's not legal here anymore. This would have been done to her before 1996.

Contrary to what you'd believe, it doesn't stop them barking, it just makes it a bit quieter. She still barked plenty, she just sounded like she had a two pack a day smoker's cough.

MOO
 
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  • #866
To debark a dog????
My God, this is horrific 😲
Is it even legal?
Isn't it abuse???
I regret reading this post :(
I have never heard about such barbaric procedure.

Unfortunately, I know a veterinarian who did that to her pet, terrible. That is just as bad in my mind if not worse (I am not sure) than when people think they are just removing cats toenails (using old fashioned declawing methods). Technically that is the first digit and they never walk the same and typically develop arthritis. I rescued a cat like that because the original owner put her back outside, defenseless. People need to come to enlightenment. Sorry for the accidental public service announcement, this was all very off topic.
 
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  • #867
I believe these photos were taken post body removal. MOO
Hope so and I tend to think so. ( I'd assumed that the blurring was simply to obscure resting place/ blood pooling etc - a modicum of dignity. There's no blurring of blood cast patterns)

Also just to add, that somewhere in those MPD docus is a reference to several LEOs taking official photos but I really don't want to go through them again to double check !!

Point being - victims were accompanied by LEOs in transit to Spokane CME and afaik that was around 9pm that evening ( So yes that's after Snyder completes his photos BUT other LEOs could've taken more photos after Snyder left)
 
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  • #868
Guys I just saw a graphic photo of Maddies bed No bodies but a very splattered tan comforter. People saying as more time goes on today the photos are getting worse. This is on NBC news.
I also want to say that regarding Xanas bed it looks like there is a lot of weight on her bed as far as the way the sheets look on the right of the blurry spot. I'm not expressing myself well, but if bed sheet has no weight on it, it's pretty flat. In the photo I can see gathers in the sheet that show that there is a something placed on the bed. I'm afraid it could be EC. And her white chair with a lot of staining.
 
  • #869
Guys I just saw a graphic photo of Maddies bed No bodies but a very splattered tan comforter. People saying as more time goes on today the photos are getting worse. This is on NBC news.
I also want to say that regarding Xanas bed it looks like there is a lot of weight on her bed as far as the way the sheets look on the right of the blurry spot. I'm not expressing myself well, but if bed sheet has no weight on it, it's pretty flat. In the photo I can see gathers in the sheet that show that there is a something placed on the bed. I'm afraid it could be EC. And her white chair with a lot of staining.
Just tagging onto this, I'm going to ask that if anyone is going to put photos here with graphic content like extensive blood pooling or spatter or potential victim bodies even blurred out, they put it behind a spoiler cut for the sake of myself and others who might not want to see that without choosing to. You can find it in the nest of comment options. It's the eye symbol with a slash through it.
 
  • #870
Guys I just saw a graphic photo of Maddies bed No bodies but a very splattered tan comforter. People saying as more time goes on today the photos are getting worse. This is on NBC news.
I also want to say that regarding Xanas bed it looks like there is a lot of weight on her bed as far as the way the sheets look on the right of the blurry spot. I'm not expressing myself well, but if bed sheet has no weight on it, it's pretty flat. In the photo I can see gathers in the sheet that show that there is a something placed on the bed. I'm afraid it could be EC. And her white chair with a lot of staining.

Unfortunately, I am expecting this. Where are you viewing these photos? I need to prepare myself and know where they are posted.
 
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  • #871
Just tagging onto this, I'm going to ask that if anyone is going to put photos here with graphic content like extensive blood pooling or spatter or potential victim bodies even blurred out, they put it behind a spoiler cut for the sake of myself and others who might not want to see that without choosing to. You can find it in the nest of comment options. It's the eye symbol with a slash through it.
Yes, please. I will never forget clicking on an update for the Delphi trial and inadvertently seeing crime seen photos of Libby and Abby. Something I would have never sought out and something I will never be able to unsee. This happened on Twitter, certainly not here.
 
  • #872
Just tagging onto this, I'm going to ask that if anyone is going to put photos here with graphic content like extensive blood pooling or spatter or potential victim bodies even blurred out, they put it behind a spoiler cut for the sake of myself and others who might not want to see that without choosing to. You can find it in the nest of comment options. It's the eye symbol with a slash through it.

Yes, please. I will never forget clicking on an update for the Delphi trial and inadvertently seeing crime seen photos of Libby and Abby. Something I would have never sought out and something I will never be able to unsee. This happened on Twitter, certainly not here.

I was just about to request this when I saw these two posts.

It’s a personal decision if someone wants to see pictures of four dead college students.

I definitely do not. I would never get it out of my head. My eldest granddaughter is 20, and if God forbid something like this happened to her I would be outraged that anyone would wish to see her in extremis.

I understand if anyone feels differently, I’m not judging, but please give a warning or use a spoiler tag.

JMO and sincere request.
 
  • #873
Just tagging onto this, I'm going to ask that if anyone is going to put photos here with graphic content like extensive blood pooling or spatter or potential victim bodies even blurred out, they put it behind a spoiler cut for the sake of myself and others who might not want to see that without choosing to. You can find it in the nest of comment options. It's the eye symbol with a slash through it.

great idea but where are comment options please
so we can give users that choice to view or not?
 
  • #874
Maybe someone already posted this but it's video of Kohberger repeatedly circling the crime scene the night of the murders. What was going through his mind as he drove around and around? Was he psyching himself up? Losing his nerve? Waiting for lights to go out?
 
  • #875
Just a general question. Kaylee’s sister tells the condemned one to sit up straight while she’s talking to him. Is that something he said to students as a TA? I’m probably overthinking this. 😁
 
  • #876
To debark a dog????
My God, this is horrific 😲
Is it even legal?
Isn't it abuse???
I regret reading this :(
I have never heard about such barbaric procedure.

JMO
Totally cruel in my opinion. Kinda like declawing a cat and then complain that they don't use the litter box.
 
  • #877
Maybe someone already posted this but it's video of Kohberger repeatedly circling the crime scene the night of the murders. What was going through his mind as he drove around and around? Was he psyching himself up? Losing his nerve? Waiting for lights to go out?
If you haven’t seen the last Dateline on this case, it’s a must watch, IMO. They have lots of video of the car. S33 Ep28 05/09/25
 
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  • #878
On the row above your text box, when you are composing a post, you will see this bar...

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The second icon from the far right is the spoiler icon. Click on that icon...

Place your photo here, between the two bracketed spacers

Put your photo in there, and it will only appear to somone who clicks on the spoiler tag. HTH
 
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  • #879
Maybe someone already posted this but it's video of Kohberger repeatedly circling the crime scene the night of the murders. What was going through his mind as he drove around and around? Was he psyching himself up? Losing his nerve? Waiting for lights to go out?
The Grays Hugh's links explaining the drive-bys are best if you can find them, we've linked to them recently.
GH explains with a timeline how he's trying to avoid the Door Dash lady etc. , the maps and dead-ends, the vantage points where he checks the coast is clear etc etc

IMO he was in full adrenaline, excitement mode. Not losing his nerve
 
  • #880
great idea but where are comment options please
so we can give users that choice to view or not?
At the top of your comment box, click the second set of three dots. It gives you a little menu. It's the same place the emoticons hide.

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Click the eye with the slash through it. Give it a label, like graphic photo.

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Then put the picture BETWEEN the two parts of html code that comes up. Your cursor should automatically be in the right place.
 

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