GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Megnut]

While BK may have had no intention to return to WA, I don't think his father knew that. In fact, I think BK purposefully led him to believe he was just going home for the Christmas/winter break.

I don't know that BK had a plan. He doesn't seem to have a need for a plan. He has a quiver of opinions to shoot down other people's advice, authority, direction, criticism, suggestion.

He doesn't believe in seatbelts. He isn't familiar with crosswalks. He has an answer for everything and amazingly he's never wrong. That makes for a tiresome person.

In a very few months, he'd managed to leave a bad smell in every nose. Waitresses were bothered by him, students were bothered by him, colleagues, office mates, instructors, supervisors.

Complete opposite of the golden boy, accomplished PhD student some maybe desperately hoped he was.

I don't for a second think he felt like a failure either. I think he felt wronged.

By everyone. Wronged by Mother when she didn't the his calls quickly enough. Wronged by women who didnt see his attractiveness, which he chronicled in selfies, confirming it for himself. Closed loop. Wronged by just about everyone at WSU. It takes quite an ego to remain confident in one's rightness only by deeming every one else wrong. Another closed loop.

We see it now in his umbrage over missed biscuits. He is entitled to whatever he feels he's entitled to, with zero awareness of what he's taken from others.

Does he care that he's in prison? Doubt it.

Real life in the real world didn't suit him.

JMO

 

[stormymama]

Thank you for sharing that @arielilane ….. I find that quite interesting and IMO troubling.

And if that is the case, his having been terminated, IMO maybe he was aware of this to come, and one might infer / conclude that the slayings were in some way retribution for the possible action by the school authorities? A way possibly IMO to lash out at the profession and professionals that he so wanted to be a part of?

Add to this….. the video image captured of his standing in some store shortly after the attacks IIUC, almost looking with an odd intent, stare, glare, or a dare at something or someone? Maybe sizing up something else? MOO

I think whether he was terminated or not, BK was going to commit murder. moo

 

[Megnut]

I think whether he was terminated or not, BK was going to commit murder. moo

Agreed.

He planned his crime from the bottom up. Started by amassing his kill kit. Wasted no time once he reached WA in choosing a victim.

I still think he had a nothing encounter with a victim waitress -- scarcely memorable on her end, the seed planted on his, but it's possible also that he learned something at the pool party. He wasn't there to make friends, network, fit in; he was there as a predator IMO. Something sent him in the direction of 1122 King Road, whether directly or not. If not, he may have discovered MM's backlit room by accident, in scouting the area, then fixated on it with purpose.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

BK commit the perfect crime in the wrong half century.

Too much attention on serial killers who commit old crimes.

It's like he forgot to account for DNA and CCTV.

So bold (=stupid) to drive his vehicle right to the house, where he was captured repeatedly. I still think he likely doctored his plate in some fashion, in an attempt to render his Elantra invisible (in his mind). Black tape. Blurring. Perhaps he expected it might show up on ring cameras but without enough detail to identify it or him.

Alas, no front plate. Thank you, DDD. Had she not wandered lost, he might not have reversed his direction, exposing the lack of plate, which also paired it nicely with CCTV from his route into Moscow (same no plate).

If BK had written this up as his crime fantasy instead, I wonder how he'd have scripted it. IMO his students would have been quick to identify the holes.

How I wish it had never made it past fantasy.

If only...

JMO

 

[Chloegirl]

While BK may have had no intention to return to WA, I don't think his father knew that. In fact, I think BK purposefully led him to believe he was just going home for the Christmas/winter break.

I don't know that BK had a plan. He doesn't seem to have a need for a plan. He has a quiver of opinions to shoot down other people's advice, authority, direction, criticism, suggestion.

He doesn't believe in seatbelts. He isn't familiar with crosswalks. He has an answer for everything and amazingly he's never wrong. That makes for a tiresome person.

In a very few months, he'd managed to leave a bad smell in every nose. Waitresses were bothered by him, students were bothered by him, colleagues, office mates, instructors, supervisors.

Complete opposite of the golden boy, accomplished PhD student some maybe desperately hoped he was.

I don't for a second think he felt like a failure either. I think he felt wronged.

By everyone. Wronged by Mother when she didn't the his calls quickly enough. Wronged by women who didnt see his attractiveness, which he chronicled in selfies, confirming it for himself. Closed loop. Wronged by just about everyone at WSU. It takes quite an ego to remain confident in one's rightness only by deeming every one else wrong. Another closed loop.

We see it now in his umbrage over missed biscuits. He is entitled to whatever he feels he's entitled to, with zero awareness of what he's taken from others.

Does he care that he's in prison? Doubt it.

Real life in the real world didn't suit him.

JMO

This is interesting to think about. Perhaps his parents would be more inclined to understand he was the murderer if he lied about his situation at WSU. I feel deeply for his family, and suspect they put up with a lot. JMOO

 

[Megnut]

This is interesting to think about. Perhaps his parents would be more inclined to understand he was the murderer if he lied about his situation at WSU. I feel deeply for his family, and suspect they put up with a lot. JMOO

I can imagine his monversations. I think he finds himself smart, charming, attractive, and the people (women) who refused to see that, they were wrong.

Mother likely got a daily monologue about the morons he was forced to face every day. It's exhausting for the smartest man in every room where he was forced to deal with students far beneath him, supervisors with ridiculous expectations over situations he surely refused to recognize or correct.

Many of us know people like that. A hundred jobs and it's always the manager who is bad, never them.

I'm guessing he fell short of every single expectation. Cooperation, respect, attendance. And not open to correction.

Unable, unwilling to consider another perspective. I suspect his family learned a long time prior that challenging BK never ended well, better to nod, agree with a mmmhmmm, and pray he was merely venting.

JMO

 

[Arkay]

Does he care that he's in prison? Doubt it.

Real life in the real world didn't suit him.

I agree with your entire post, except I have a different opinion, at least for now, about this last part.

I do think he cares about being in prison, partially because the other prisoners aren’t going to hold him in awe, and instead will harass him.

Mainly, though, he may consider prison quite the indignity. So beneath him, and an indisputable certitude that he was not, after all, smart enough to get away with his crimes.

Truly the real world did not suit him, but I’m unsure if he knew, felt or believed that.

***He was attempting to force a real world into being.***


One that adored him as a brilliant man, one that entitled him to go for a PhD. and judge undergraduates, one that gave him pride of place in his family, one that catered to his diet, and PARTICULARLY one that he felt entitled him to take by force the girls he wanted.

JMO

 

[texaslb218]

While BK may have had no intention to return to WA, I don't think his father knew that. In fact, I think BK purposefully led him to believe he was just going home for the Christmas/winter break.

I don't know that BK had a plan. He doesn't seem to have a need for a plan. He has a quiver of opinions to shoot down other people's advice, authority, direction, criticism, suggestion.

He doesn't believe in seatbelts. He isn't familiar with crosswalks. He has an answer for everything and amazingly he's never wrong. That makes for a tiresome person.

In a very few months, he'd managed to leave a bad smell in every nose. Waitresses were bothered by him, students were bothered by him, colleagues, office mates, instructors, supervisors.

Complete opposite of the golden boy, accomplished PhD student some maybe desperately hoped he was.

I don't for a second think he felt like a failure either. I think he felt wronged.

By everyone. Wronged by Mother when she didn't the his calls quickly enough. Wronged by women who didnt see his attractiveness, which he chronicled in selfies, confirming it for himself. Closed loop. Wronged by just about everyone at WSU. It takes quite an ego to remain confident in one's rightness only by deeming every one else wrong. Another closed loop.

We see it now in his umbrage over missed biscuits. He is entitled to whatever he feels he's entitled to, with zero awareness of what he's taken from others.

Does he care that he's in prison? Doubt it.

Real life in the real world didn't suit him.

JMO

Great pulling together the unending reactions to BK. Everyone he met seemed to feel uncomfortable around him.

 

[shetalksinstereo]

I am at a Dr. Scott Bonn event. Interested in hearing him speak!

 

[MeadowMuffin]

I can imagine his monversations. I think he finds himself smart, charming, attractive, and the people (women) who refused to see that, they were wrong.

Mother likely got a daily monologue about the morons he was forced to face every day. It's exhausting for the smartest man in every room where he was forced to deal with students far beneath him, supervisors with ridiculous expectations over situations he surely refused to recognize or correct.

Many of us know people like that. A hundred jobs and it's always the manager who is bad, never them.

I'm guessing he fell short of every single expectation. Cooperation, respect, attendance. And not open to correction.

Unable, unwilling to consider another perspective. I suspect his family learned a long time prior that challenging BK never ended well, better to nod, agree with a mmmhmmm, and pray he was merely venting.

JMO

Yes! Your last paragraph is spot on.

In Howard Blum's book 'When the Night Comes Falling' he wrote about the difference of opinion that BK and his father had. MK wanted to take the route they planned, a more southerly route, but the murderer wanted to drive through Colorado to supposedly avoid snow! MK knew better than to argue, so he let BK have his way without further discussion.

 

[Chloegirl]

According to this informative podcast, the murderer wasnt coming back to WSU. His life as he knew was done, courtesy of his own doings. Btw, well worth a listen. jmo​

(31:48):

* I believe this should be Washington rather than ID.

Remember remember when his dad
flew to *Idaho, drives it with him back from Idaho
to Pennsylvania. Kohberger had already lost all of his funding.

(32:09):
He'd already had his PhD funding pull because of the
jerk that he was nothing to do with this case.
He wasn't publicly mentioned at that point. He lost that
on December nineteenth, had his funding pull. He was no
longer going to be a TA. He had lost his PA.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
He was done. He was actually going home for good.
He wasn't coming back.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It wasn't no comeback, I don't think. I mean, maybe
he was going to come back and collect some of
his things, but you know, his academic life at that
point was dead. At in the state. They wouldn't touch
him with a vaccinated crowbar. No, I'm serious, No, I'm
just saying the staff there because this guy, this guy

(32:48):
is you talk about throwing a wrench into the system.
You know that that whole ecosystem of the PhD environment
can be thrown into total and complete chaos with somebody.
They're not going to take a chance on this guy
any longer.

FBI DNA SHOCKER! Police Bodycam, Screaming on Stairs, Kohberger Case Continues! - Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan | iHeart

<p>The recent release of police bodycam footage from Moscow, Idaho and the interview with Dylan Mortensen answers a lot of questions for those who have followed the case. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the latest information on the case including the FBI doing something they publicly...

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FBI DNA SHOCKER! Police Bodycam, Screaming on Stairs, Kohberger Case Continues!​

August 27, 2025 • 42 mins

Episode Transcript​

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Okay there must be something wrong with that link takes me to some other story. If anyone tripped over the right link I would appreciate that. TIA

I'm not being lazy I found something from July but I don't think that's what was referenced.

 

[Megnut]

Okay there must be something wrong with that link takes me to some other story. If anyone tripped over the right link I would appreciate that. TIA

I'm not being lazy I found something from July but I don't think that's what was referenced.

Both links worked for me. It's available on many other platforms as well, search by title.

It's a good listen.

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Yes! Your last paragraph is spot on.

In Howard Blum's book 'When the Night Comes Falling' he wrote about the difference of opinion that BK and his father had. MK wanted to take the route they planned, a more southerly route, but the murderer wanted to drive through Colorado to supposedly avoid snow! MK knew better than to argue, so he let BK have his way without further discussion.

Your last sentence reminds me of BK making veiled threats to his dad Michael .....This was in 2014 when he was age 19 and addicted to heroin.

Official records reviewed by ABC News show Michael told police his son had warned him to 'not do anything stupid' after he learned he had taken the phone. The father also reportedly mentioned Kohberger's addiction to heroin.

Kohberger had recently left rehab when he took his older sister's Melissa's $400 iPhone and allegedly paid a friend $20 to drive him to the mall, where he sold the phone for $200.

Idaho murders suspect was arrested in 2014 over sister's iPhone

Bryan Kohberger was arrested back in 2014 after stealing one of his sisters' iPhones while battling a drug addiction, a new report has revealed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Okay there must be something wrong with that link takes me to some other story. If anyone tripped over the right link I would appreciate that. TIA

I'm not being lazy I found something from July but I don't think that's what was referenced.

Had same thing happen and don’t find a podcast with that title on Joe Scott Morgan’s “Body Bags” website.

UPDATE: “This FBI Shocker Body Bags” podcast is from Aug. 27.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

Did anyone see the new Court TV show "Victim to Verdict" Saturday night? Premier was a week ago, they covered the case of Abby and Libby. Last night, at 7PM eastern time they replayed it, then at 8PM showed the Idaho4 case. Next Saturday they'll replay it at 7PM.

I thought it was well done,but there was only 1 thing I didn't know. Cellebrite's owners,the Barnhart's, talked about, and showed, some selfies #163214 took, and said one showed him involved in what I'll call a private sex act. That selfie wasn't shown of course!

Bill Thompson spoke, they showed portions of the Goncalves' victim impact statements, a bit of the 911 call and video of that day; just an overview of the whole case.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1974816288028447023

 

[stormymama]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1974816288028447023

Boo hoo, Bryern.

moo.

 

[crhedBngr]

DBM.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1976048096544162030

 

[iamshadow21]

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Just stepping aside from the individual in question, I actually have a real problem with this staff member not facing some kind of charge. The cameras are there for safety. The prisoner does not have any control or veto for them being there. They film them all the time - sleeping, dressing, using the toilet. The duty of care breach is one I find disgusting. I don't care who the subject was or what he did - I care that someone exploited that position of power for money. And they're not getting any consequences for it. If you did it in a school, in a hospital, in a public bathroom, you'd be charged. But it's an inmate, oh, never mind?

MOO