GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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Hi folks, haven’t been here on this thread in awhile and decided to check it this morning to see if anything’s new. Thanks to all who’ve been posting and keeping the thread updated. I see the latest is the killer is complaining about having to pay restitution. SMDH.
Some of my thoughts, all IMO:

This killer is truly something else.
Been complaining since virtually his first day in prison:
‘Whah whah’ other inmates’ are yelling and taunting me which is disrupting my sleep (the nerve of this killer complaining about his sleep being disrupted after having slaughtered four innocent young people in the middle of the night when most people are sleeping and/or trying to sleep, in their safe place aka in their bedrooms/beds!).

‘Whah whah’ I didn’t get my biscuit on my food plate.

And his latest gripe-
‘whah whah’ I don’t wanna pay restitution. Too bad so sad.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time/pay your dues.

This creepy ghoul of a killer needs to stop putting these families whose beautiful children he viciously, horrifically stole from them and this world, through more turmoil and trauma trying to use the good hearts and fortitude of people with empathy and compassion (yeah I know this killer doesn’t get it/those feelings at all) that donated to the families’ for the unexpected expenses incurred (travel to attend hearings, lodging, food, loss time from work, lost wages etc., etc), completely upending their lives, as a reason he shouldn’t have to pay them restitution. Horrible.
Not too surprised though as he’s a typical selfish narcissistic killer creep who thinks everything is about him. News flash killer, the world doesn’t revolve around you.

I wish he’d stop dragging the families’ into his twisted ‘web’ causing them more trauma, pain and suffering.
And really hope this not wanting to pay restitution BS is the end of it, but….sorry to say I have my doubts.
Far as I’m concerned, this killer needs to pay up and then shut.the.he!!.up.

Better for all concerned, the surviving victims’, victims’ families, community, and State of Idaho for this killer to quietly while away the hours in his cell, become old news and forgotten about. The sooner, the better.

IMHOO

RIP Kaylee, Maddie, Xana, Ethan
 
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Those who donated to families eased the burden upfront. It's been years of losses and expenses that BK forced on them. And costs beyond the obvious too. Other family members' losses and travel expenses, simple things like pet boarding, increased security, increased travel. Is there anyone anywhere that believes these families could be overcompensated? No! Because you can't do a real accounting on what they've lost.

AT scrapes my brain. Her second argument that BK will have no source of income, ugh. Cue the tiny-'lins. 1. That's his own fault. 2. Bored that not true of just about every convicted inmate? Point being, thank goodness for crowdsourced donations and the like to help ease families' burdens while restitution trickles in in pennies over a lifetime. By AT's argument, no inmate should have to pay. On the contrary, it's the principle of the matter. His commissary can take the hit. And should he ever have access to greater funds, he can pay from those.

I hope this is the last anyone has to hear from him.

JMO
I don't understand why a public defender assigned to a capital murder case that is now closed is continuing to do legal work for BK on the public dime. This seems like something that should be handled by a private lawyer.
 
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I don't understand why a public defender assigned to a capital murder case that is now closed is continuing to do legal work for BK on the public dime. This seems like something that should be handled by a private lawyer.
Right????
 
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BK was 28 when he committed these murders. He was out of time and had to do his final full fledged metamorphosis into Bateman the Slayer. He knew how much harder it woukd be to get away with it back home at mommie and daddy's house, especially if he had older siblings with a MUCH more realistic view of him than mommie.
RSBM

Agreed! Just one thing: his birthdate is 11/21/94 so he was still 27. He was running out of time to act before turning 28.
 
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In civil law, the fact that third parties have covered a victim's costs (via insurance or otherwise) does not offset the offender's obligation to pay damages. So, I can see the Judge analogizing from this to deny BK's motion. Not frivolous perhaps, but groundless.

But if I understand correctly, the primary argument is that Kohberger agreed to a specific amount of restitution and fines in his plea agreement (negotiated by AT, which explains her continued presence), and the state's request exceeds that amount. It's not the amount of additional restitution: BK doesn't want to open the door to an unlimited claim for restitution: a deal is a deal, after all.

Meh. The victims should sue him in civil court and get a judgment that is not dischargeable in bankruptcy because of the willful and outrageous nature of the offense. Easy peasy.
 
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Amen and just for the record (IMO), AT knew all that when she filed her poor faith motion.

Hey, Inmate, pay up, Buttercup.

JMO
 
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Amen and just for the record (IMO), AT knew all that when she filed her poor faith motion.

Hey, Inmate, pay up, Buttercup.

JMO
I will never forget the stargazing. Ever. I sometimes wonder if he didn't get that plea bargain just so the court could make such tactics stop because if it was painful for us to watch, imagine how it made the victims' family members feel. It was almost stomach-turning considering the gravity of what he'd done and the crushing weight of the evidence against him. And the incessant whining at this point-- it makes your mouth hang open watching it, jmo.

I almost wonder if it's not part of his sick "grand plan" to have people litigating his right to vending machine nacho chips (vegan, I checked) after he slaughtered four innocent young people. Because this whining-- it's to me in the same spirit of the stargazing.

Vicious.
 
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I will never forget the stargazing. Ever. I sometimes wonder if he didn't get that plea bargain just so the court could make such tactics stop because if it was painful for us to watch, imagine how it made the victims' family members feel. It was almost stomach-turning considering the gravity of what he'd done and the crushing weight of the evidence against him. And the incessant whining at this point-- it makes your mouth hang open watching it, jmo.

I almost wonder if it's not part of his sick "grand plan" to have people litigating his right to vending machine nacho chips (vegan, I checked) after he slaughtered four innocent young people. Because this whining-- it's to me in the same spirit of the stargazing.

Vicious.

The State made short work of her arguments. There's no way she wasn't aware of the same body of facts. What an insult to the judge's intelligence and waste of everyone's time, especially the Court's.

The trial itself would be drawing to a close right about now, had it moved forward as scheduled. I don't recall the specific dates... or whether it would have been delayed by psychological testing and AT's hell-bent bending to interfere with it. For what reason would she need to be in the room with him? Yeah, no.

I really hope this is the last hearing BK ever gets. He would have been an appeals nightmare.

JMO
 
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I will never forget the stargazing. Ever. I sometimes wonder if he didn't get that plea bargain just so the court could make such tactics stop because if it was painful for us to watch, imagine how it made the victims' family members feel. It was almost stomach-turning considering the gravity of what he'd done and the crushing weight of the evidence against him. And the incessant whining at this point-- it makes your mouth hang open watching it, jmo.

I almost wonder if it's not part of his sick "grand plan" to have people litigating his right to vending machine nacho chips (vegan, I checked) after he slaughtered four innocent young people. Because this whining-- it's to me in the same spirit of the stargazing.

Vicious.
I keep waiting to hear BK is representing himself in court ala Ted Bundy and I think a few others (can't remember who atm).

I think BK is a narcissist and of the worse kind.
 
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Yup. And AT knows that. A documented source of funds... welp. I guess BK can pay restitution after all. Just like every other convicted felon, even the ones in protective segregation.

Another waste of paper motion from AT who knows better.

JMO
 
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Yup. And AT knows that. A documented source of funds... welp. I guess BK can pay restitution after all. Just like every other convicted felon, even the ones in protective segregation.

Another waste of paper motion from AT who knows better.

JMO
So thats why he is fighting, to keep creepy fan girl money.
 
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Thanks for posting link to BE’s video.

After watching I have one, slightly misspelled, word to describe likely majority of nameless peeps donating to this creepy Inmate:
Hy‘bry’stophilia. 🤮

IMHOO

RIP Kaylee, Maddie, Xana, Ethan
 
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It's a running theme. Who does this crap? (Yeah, just rhetorical.)
 
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Amen and just for the record (IMO), AT knew all that when she filed her poor faith motion.

Hey, Inmate, pay up, Buttercup Butterbrows.

JMO
RSTBM (Respectfully Struck Through By Me 🤭)

Fixed it. 😉🤭

MOO
 
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I don't understand why a public defender assigned to a capital murder case that is now closed is continuing to do legal work for BK on the public dime. This seems like something that should be handled by a private lawyer.
that’s not how this works. He wants or needs a lawyer, he gets a lawyer. Any and all of us who are accused of a crime. In the US anyway, we all have a right to an attorney, whether or not we can afford one. Denying him access to a defense attorney would frankly open them up to having his conviction thrown out due to ineffective counsel. I doubt any of us want that…

JmO and I’m not a lawyer
 
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that’s not how this works. He wants or needs a lawyer, he gets a lawyer. Any and all of us who are accused of a crime. In the US anyway, we all have a right to an attorney, whether or not we can afford one. Denying him access to a defense attorney would frankly open them up to having his conviction thrown out due to ineffective counsel. I doubt any of us want that…

JmO and I’m not a lawyer
But it would specifically have to be an appelate lawyer since he's convicted. Not sure if PD's do appelate work unless they are with the Innocence Project or something. I think you can only claim Ineffectiveness of Counsel on the trial attorney.
 
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