GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #116

[Megnut]

As I review the newly released videos, I can't help but to contrast them with AT's statements. He's innocent, richocheting in my head. He wasn't driving over there. It's not his car. There's seven minutes... that might be a thing... The representations that he's clumsy, feeble, incapable...

Yet he knew his way around Moscow, knew his way around the Internets, knew how to use VPNs and incognito mode and scrubber, a runner with an athletic build... with bushy brybrows...

Who drove a white Elantra whose path was captured nearly unbroken, with no front plate, circling... until it stopped between 4:09 and 4:20...

No more presumption, factually innocent of nothing.

Actually factually guilty. Actually factually guilty as hell.

Shopping for something to drink while... Murphy cowered under Kaylee's desk.

Murphy. More human than the murderer will ever be.

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

But I remember my friend who once appeared on TV,
she was aghast that camera gave her a few kilos
She complained she looked twice her size on the screen

Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

Bryan Kohberger selfie allegedly taken hours after Idaho college murders released

Kohberger's lawyers want to use this picture as proof that he "does not have bushy eyebrows."

abc7.com

And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/bryan-kohberger-costco-video-murders/

 

[Diddian]

Looks like he has black latex or nitrile gloves hanging partially out of his back pocket on his right side. (More discernible in the Gray Hughes video than in the still photos, although can be partially seen in the bottom photo of your post.)

 

[Dotta]

Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

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Bryan Kohberger selfie allegedly taken hours after Idaho college murders released

Kohberger's lawyers want to use this picture as proof that he "does not have bushy eyebrows."

abc7.com

And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

View attachment 616647

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/bryan-kohberger-costco-video-murders/

Is it even the same shirt?
It looks green on CCTV.

Are the colours THAT distorted?

Hmmm...

 

[Chloegirl]

Is it even the same shirt?
It looks green on CCTV.

Are the colours THAT distorted?

Hmmm...

I wonder if he got similar in different colors and switched (dirty/sweaty/coming down off a high). I have never known any human being to look so different and distorted in all my life. He never looks the same twice.

He has some muscle and obviously strength combined with enlarged man breasts and a wide waist, no glutes and I am still convinced he is malnourished in various ways (bulimia/pizza/enamel ripped off teeth to look yellowed permanently). BK is sort of engrossing, as a topic, because he is absolutely all over the place.

I cannot for the life of me imagine what the families must be thinking, if they've seen this. Or his family (albeit, they're probably not very objective). It does make your head spin.

When everything first happened, I wondered what kind of person could do this? My "make it make sense" moment.

A really messed up one, apparently. JMOO

 

[Megnut]

8 minute video

All the recently released Elantra videos played in succession.

No commentary. Warning: scary music

FWIW AT knew about all this footage when she presented the alibi-which-wasn't-one, when she put Sy Ray forth, with the supposed exculpatory footage that was lost to dishonest cops, withheld discovery, seven missing minutes that were never actually missing, all invented diversions from the DNA which implicated BK every day and twice on the judge's Sundays.

JMO

 

[gremlin444]

Here's the accompanying Idaho Statesman article with the video of the stitched together car footage --no paywall. And no verbal analysis on the video if you prefer that (I do).

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article312270834.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawND6sFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHkEWDzi9ESATKX8kVk099wvbtXjE0bLkn0wleHNEu7-Pa2rEoGb6BVx-PVAx_aem_e1-5c_1yp8etf3KhdX7Deg

 

[Teche]

Doesn't everyone and their brother know that you need a membership card to shop there? Since I think just about everyone knows that, I suspect that he was trying to sweet talk his way into the store when he stopped and was chatting up the door employee. Then that scowl on his face that we've all seen posted here was because he didn't get his (spoiled rotten) way. JMO!

So, if just about everyone knows you need a CostCo card to shop there (you actually don't need one to enter if you're there for prescriptions (I've done it multiple times), an eye exam (but need membership to buy glasses), and to purchase alcohol, although that might just be an Oregon thing since we're controlled by OLLC (Oregon Liquor Control Commission), (again, I've done it without a membership), and possibly more)...why did he want in? The only thing I can come up with is for the free food samples. JMO!

I'm a Costco member and it was a requirement to show the membership card. Recently, Costco requires that the membership card be scanned when entering but has an employee at the scanning machine.

 

[katydid23]

IMO his chest and torso definitely look artificially bulked up by something under his clothes.

It looks like he maybe had a bulletproof vest on. Could he have worn one during the attacks?

 

[MassGuy]

HJ’s interview with police. Posted with permission of the mods.

Hunter Johnson's interview after the murders of Maddie, Kaylee, Xana and Ethan.

My Substack is about true crime.

thedocket71.substack.com

 

[Helechawagirl]

Agree, one may have been preferred over another, but I am sure the murderer knew there were multiple girls in that house. I still think he could have wanted to target as many as possible. They were the very representation of who he blamed for his failures and short comings.

Xana being up and moving and then finding a big, strapping jock Ethan in her room, DM awake and calling out, and Murphy barking were factors he didn't consider which put him on the run.

I just don't think he would have gone in and killed Maddie if she was alone and then immediately left. Maybe he was planning some sick pseudo s e x u a l contact with her being passed out or dead.

How I wish he would have tripped on the stairs and fell onto the knife 5 times while chasing Xana.

JMO

I can’t get over how he essentially caved Kaylee’s face in… broke her nose, knocked her teeth out and stabbed her in the face and head in addition to severing her liver etc. I can’t imagine the physical strength it would take to do that.

And I’m really puzzled at the Judge’s “tender” comments towards Kohberger at sentencing—saying he didn’t have to stand up and show him respect. That still seems bizarre to me.

As for who he targeted, it’s anybody’s guess. At first everyone thought it was Kaylee because of the mutilation of her body—why it seemed personal and targeted. Now, folks seem to think it was Maddie because she looked like a past “love” interest of BK’s.

As for him knowing/not knowing how many people were in the home, his detective skills are abysmal—almost like he was more of a peeping Tom than actually analyzing and planning.

<modsnip>

Their “reason” that he might lie is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard. They’re definitely hiding something—and they may have valid reasons for doing so. I’m beginning to doubt that one person could make over 80 stab wounds to 4 different people in 2 or 3 minutes?

Just some early hour musings. <modsnip: No linked source for information stated as fact.>

Time will tell.

 

[xjd11]

I can’t get over how he essentially caved Kaylee’s face in… broke her nose, knocked her teeth out and stabbed her in the face and head in addition to severing her liver etc. I can’t imagine the physical strength it would take to do that.

And I’m really puzzled at the Judge’s “tender” comments towards Kohberger at sentencing—saying he didn’t have to stand up and show him respect. That still seems bizarre to me.

As for who he targeted, it’s anybody’s guess. At first everyone thought it was Kaylee because of the mutilation of her body—why it seemed personal and targeted. Now, folks seem to think it was Maddie because she looked like a past “love” interest of BK’s.

As for him knowing/not knowing how many people were in the home, his detective skills are abysmal—almost like he was more of a peeping Tom than actually analyzing and planning.

<modsnip>

Their “reason” that he might lie is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard. They’re definitely hiding something—and they may have valid reasons for doing so. I’m beginning to doubt that one person could make over 80 stab wounds to 4 different people in 2 or 3 minutes?

Just some early hour musings. <modsnip>

Time will tell.

bbm, I have not watched the video of these comments. could the judge have been a little sarcastic?

 

[Warwick7]

Hmm...seems we've traversed these grounds multiple times on how 80+ stabs to 4 people in such a short period time.

Let's do it again...

Let's start with dingbat's element of surprise. These young people were most likely asleep (except for Xana) and heavily intoxicated when the attacks began. A surviving roommate was in a "frozen shock phase" after seeing the masked killer, indicating in M00 the attack was sudden and disorienting. This gave dingbat a significant advantage, as he did not have to overpower four people simultaneously.

Lest we have dingbat's criminal education and backround. He knew to focus on vulnerable areas that would incapacitate victims very quickly. In the medical field it tells us a fatal stab to the chest can cause the brain to die within seconds. This means that while the overall number of wounds was high, the fatal injuries could have been inflicted extremely fast.

His alleged kick boxing and running would cause him to be physically fit. This would enable dingbat to exert the force needed to inflict the wounds, in M00.

Its not unheard of that in some attacks, the act of stabbing can occur in a matter of seconds. For example, the Sydney stabbings in 2024 showed that a person with a knife can inflict multiple fatal wounds and injure many people very quickly...

 

[Warwick7]

bbm, I have not watched the video of these comments. could the judge have been a little sarcastic?

Yeah, there were no tender comments from the Judge...

Judge Hippler delivered a forceful condemnation of Kohberger during his sentencing hearing. The judge notably called him a "faceless coward." Then turned around and stated he was "unable to come up with anything redeeming about Mr. Kohberger, because his grotesque acts of evil have buried and hidden anything that might have been good or intrinsically human about him."

 

[MissPie]

If you have not listened already, I highly recommend the 3-episode podcast by @othram on their work to help solve this case. Their podcast (shown and linked at the right side of this page) is America’s Crime Lab and the series is entitled “New Forensic Details from the Idaho Student Murders”.

 

[Warwick7]

"Based on that footage and other evidence, prosecutors believe the murders occurred in a 13-minute window between 4:07 and 4:20 a.m., when the white sedan is seen speeding away and exiting the neighborhood."

(Do I believe it happened in less time? Yes. However the above is what the Prosecution decided.)

Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article312270834.html#storylink=cpy

 

[othram]

If you have not listened already, I highly recommend the 3-episode podcast by @othram on their work to help solve this case. Their podcast (shown and linked at the right side of this page) is America’s Crime Lab and the series is entitled “New Forensic Details from the Idaho Student Murders”.

Thanks for sharing!

We hope that the 3-episode story helps clarify what happened and didn't happen in the case.

If you use Apple Podcasts, here is a direct link to the first episode:

New Forensic Details From the Idaho Student Murders - Part 1

Podcast Episode · America's Crime Lab · S1 E10 · 42m

podcasts.apple.com

 

[lonetraveler]

I can’t get over how he essentially caved Kaylee’s face in… broke her nose, knocked her teeth out and stabbed her in the face and head in addition to severing her liver etc. I can’t imagine the physical strength it would take to do that.

And I’m really puzzled at the Judge’s “tender” comments towards Kohberger at sentencing—saying he didn’t have to stand up and show him respect. That still seems bizarre to me.

As for who he targeted, it’s anybody’s guess. At first everyone thought it was Kaylee because of the mutilation of her body—why it seemed personal and targeted. Now, folks seem to think it was Maddie because she looked like a past “love” interest of BK’s.

As for him knowing/not knowing how many people were in the home, his detective skills are abysmal—almost like he was more of a peeping Tom than actually analyzing and planning.

<modsnip>

Their “reason” that he might lie is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard. They’re definitely hiding something—and they may have valid reasons for doing so. I’m beginning to doubt that one person could make over 80 stab wounds to 4 different people in 2 or 3 minutes?

Just some early hour musings. <modsnip>

Time will tell.

I may be getting cases mixed up but wasn't part of the deal is that BK can't appeal?

 

[lonetraveler]

I can’t get over how he essentially caved Kaylee’s face in… broke her nose, knocked her teeth out and stabbed her in the face and head in addition to severing her liver etc. I can’t imagine the physical strength it would take to do that.

And I’m really puzzled at the Judge’s “tender” comments towards Kohberger at sentencing—saying he didn’t have to stand up and show him respect. That still seems bizarre to me.

As for who he targeted, it’s anybody’s guess. At first everyone thought it was Kaylee because of the mutilation of her body—why it seemed personal and targeted. Now, folks seem to think it was Maddie because she looked like a past “love” interest of BK’s.

As for him knowing/not knowing how many people were in the home, his detective skills are abysmal—almost like he was more of a peeping Tom than actually analyzing and planning.

The plea deal fiasco—I don’t think the use of the database they used to Id him was 100% legal—even contracted out—so that may have been something Taylor could use to get the DNA thrown out—in which case BK might have walked free.

Their “reason” that he might lie is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard. They’re definitely hiding something—and they may have valid reasons for doing so. I’m beginning to doubt that one person could make over 80 stab wounds to 4 different people in 2 or 3 minutes?

Just some early hour musings. <modsnip>

Time will tell.

I think that the Kickboxing came into play for the major injuries to her face. He wanted to destroy her beauty, IMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Hmm...seems we've traversed these grounds multiple times on how 80+ stabs to 4 people in such a short period time.

Let's do it again...

Let's start with dingbat's element of surprise. These young people were most likely asleep (except for Xana) and heavily intoxicated when the attacks began. A surviving roommate was in a "frozen shock phase" after seeing the masked killer, indicating in M00 the attack was sudden and disorienting. This gave dingbat a significant advantage, as he did not have to overpower four people simultaneously.

Lest we have dingbat's criminal education and backround. He knew to focus on vulnerable areas that would incapacitate victims very quickly. In the medical field it tells us a fatal stab to the chest can cause the brain to die within seconds. This means that while the overall number of wounds was high, the fatal injuries could have been inflicted extremely fast.

His alleged kick boxing and running would cause him to be physically fit. This would enable dingbat to exert the force needed to inflict the wounds, in M00.

Its not unheard of that in some attacks, the act of stabbing can occur in a matter of seconds. For example, the Sydney stabbings in 2024 showed that a person with a knife can inflict multiple fatal wounds and injure many people very quickly...

This "Dingbat" is probably re-living the murders over and over in his mind and enjoying every single moment.