GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #116

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All he meant was that he didn't want BK popping up to stand every time he was asked a question (some judges in some kinds of hearings do want that..or they have the defendant keep standing instead of sitting down between each question). If Hippler expects you to stand, he'll instruct you to. Hippler was also saying it was unnecessary as well as coming across as obsequious--all he needed to do to show proper courtroom respect to the judge was use polite language when addressing him and follow all directions.

Not to mention it was a plea hearing where it was already known to all that he was confessing to a quadruple murder--the guards and LE really don't want him constantly standing up....too much of a risk and puts everyone on edge. It doesn't help that the layout of that courtroom was rather odd.....usually they are set up so that the defense table and the prosecution table are set up side by side parallel to each other--not in this unusual perpendicular layout they had in that courtroom. That means every time he stands up, he's essentially facing out to the prosecution and the families/friends/audience as opposed to standing with his back to them.

Excellent points.

He murdered four people in minutes.

It's safer for everyone if he remains seated.

Just saw, in another courtroom, a defendant who was found guilty of his crimes tried to stab himself. If BK is standing, he has a split second advantage, should he attempt to harm himself or anyone else. Seated, he needs that split second to stand, handing the split second advantage to the guards.

Judge didn't editorialize but IMO he neutralized BK swiftly.

Imagine how frightening just his standing up might have felt to the victims. It's aggressive, dominating.

Judge took that power away from him masterfully.

I'm reminded of KG's sister's more direct approach -- sit up when I'm talking to you.

Judge was calm with his directive but no less effective in putting BK in his place.

I can't help but to wonder, I mean, surely his attorneys advised him on the court's procedure and preference. Perhaps they did. And he took his own liberty. He doesn't seem to be constrained by convention.

Either way, Hippler made it clear.

My courtroom, not yours.

JMO
 
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Screen grab from the end of the video, enlarged, a murderer walking among us

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is it just me or does he look like a murderer? like if I saw him out shopping, my first thought would be 'that guy's a murderer'
I say it often to my husband when we're out and see a creeper and sometimes I can just feel their creepy, dark vibe
 
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is it just me or does he look like a murderer? like if I saw him out shopping, my first thought would be 'that guy's a murderer'
I say it all the time to my husband when we're out and see a creeper and sometimes I can just feel their creepy, dark vibe
It’s not just you. Maybe I’m just Monday morning quarterbacking, but I think the exact same thing every time I see a new picture or video. Those dead eyes are a glaring warning sign that he doesn’t have a lot of emotion roaming around in that head of his.
 
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is it just me or does he look like a murderer? like if I saw him out shopping, my first thought would be 'that guy's a murderer'
I say it often to my husband when we're out and see a creeper and sometimes I can just feel their creepy, dark vibe

Well, he sure as he k does there! 😆
 
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And I’m really puzzled at the Judge’s “tender” comments towards Kohberger at sentencing—saying he didn’t have to stand up and show him respect. That still seems bizarre to me.

I’m also one who sees this differently.

IMO it was not meant to be tender, but actually the opposite.

Judge Hippler had BK’s number early, but naturally expected a jury would decide.

Now that they’d come to the end of the road, he wasn’t about to let Bryan desecrate the court, and the memories of his victims, by play-acting the role of a virtuous young man who shows respect for protocol.

I wonder if inwardly, the judge wanted to yell “SIT YOUR BUTT DOWN!” Of course he would translate that into proper court-speak. “It’s not necessary for you to stand when you address me.”

Just my opinion.
 
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is it just me or does he look like a murderer? like if I saw him out shopping, my first thought would be 'that guy's a murderer'
I say it often to my husband when we're out and see a creeper and sometimes I can just feel their creepy, dark vibe
Oh yes, WE can see it, but lets take a look at how he sees himself.

That outfit (shudder).. Who dresses like that anymore in their day to day everyday life? C'mon; he's a student and a graduate assistant. Not even full tenured long term professors dress like that ( well, at any of the universities where I've spent considerable time as both student and teaching professor.)

To me, that "look" he has going with his fashion statement, and just after completing a particularly gruesome homicide spree, says "look at me, I'm a respectable important person going about my respectable important life". I think he dressed this way very intentionally as a camouflage and *very intentionally* got himself on security cameras in multiple locations at times of day that seemed very normal for his routine respectable normal life, thinking he was so clever that he would never ever be suspected. That murderous look WE see was probably to him the look of "I'm so important and respected that I intimidate insignificant little people like you". His students and colleagues alike have spoken of this weird intimidating attitude using other descriptive words.

I also believe the thickness we see around his midsection is likely a compression wrap of some sort (multiple possibilities here including thin neoprene) that is used to prevent blood seepage from wounds sustained that morning (or less likely from wraps used preemptively for protection applied before his attack. Its much easier to conceal wraps under a loose button down shirt and loose dress slacks than the much more common and casual tshirt and sports pants. And a white shirt at that! Of COURSE he couldnt have POSSIBLY just committed a heinous flurry of murders, heavens no. And using his intimidating kind of presence, he'd be comfortably sure nobody would even think to question his very esteemed and important position in life. What a clever one. 🤮🤡

I believe this pathetic deviant has such a huge narcissistic self image that his mirror only has room for one image: himself. He makes space for Mother only because he sees adoration reflected back to him in her eyes. Father only exists because he's useful for summoning Mother.

He can't get reflected adoration in prison and he can't intimidate anyone there either though he laughingly tried, from behind bars, when on the phone with Mother. His future looks agonizing. Yay for that.

I'm seeking info for some psychological research: how old was BK when he first saw American Psycho, the movie he named as his all-time favorite? Did he become obsessed with it then or did that come later?
 
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DBM
 
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Gray Hughes on NewsNation with AB

Reviews the store and Elantra footage, nicely condensed for anyone who hasn't the heart/time for his hours long coverages.

 
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Re the picture

It is not only the torso that looks bulky
but the area of hips and legs :rolleyes:

Honestly folks,
but maybe it is the angle of CCTV.
People look strange caught on such camera hahaha

JMO
I thought it looked like he had sweat pants under his pants
 

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