PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #110

[Magic8Ball]

First Diddy, now this. It's a travesty of justice to me. I watched Steve talking to reporters and... let's just say I completely empathize. This scum got the last laugh. In the end everything is about money.

From my perspective, the two cases are not even remotely comparable.

The Diddy case is Prime Example #1 of why we can't trust a jury to reach a rational, unbiased, evidence-based conclusion. The Diddy case is precisely why I view this plea deal as a win for the good guys.

Diddy will be able to party away and soak up all the baby oil his skin can absorb.

BK is not going to be laughing in prison.
He's either going to be sitting in solitary staring at 4 blank walls closing in on him, or he's going to be looking over his shoulder in a state of constant fear and hyper-vigilance.

Not the same cases, and certainly not the same outcomes. JMO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Why is she touching him???????

She is glad to be shoving him off. AT was more relaxed and smiling today than I've seen her in months. Her nightmare of BK is over (or will be after the sentencing hearing).

Too bad the victim's families can't be free of him as well.

JMO

 

[mickey2942]

They will have to put him in protective custody for this reason.

IMO

They didn't put Chris Watts in "protective" custody. He seems to be living his best life in prison.

 

[Jw192]

I don't suggest that DA Thompson used the DP as leverage or that BK was unfairly treated. Thompson and his team were ready to try the case and seek the DP. I think AT raised enough concern about BK's right to a fair trial being compromised by pretrial publicity, that Thompson simply believed this was a just outcome, the best he could achieve.

I was responding to a more concern expressed by a previous poster that if the death penalty was not available as bargaining leverage, more guilty murderers would go free.

Ahhh I see, yah.

I believe we don't know the reason the prosecution accepted the defenses offer of a plea deal and we may never know. Part of me believes that it was moreso to save the families a lengthy stint of trauma with appeals and whatnot. What I do fully believe though is that this was always a plan b for the ghoul. Wait and see if AT could pull anything out the bag to derail and if not, cop a plea when HE decided to... Who knows. All we know now is that he will never be a free person ever again.

 

[ilovewings]

No longer presumption of innocence, no longer allowed to attend court in civilian clothes.

I have to admit to being totally stunned that he admitted to guilt-- once someone says "yes I did it"-- that's it- he did it--- It is an amazing moment for such an admission. I read in an article online that after the defense failed to get the death penalty off the table, they decided to ask for a plea from the prosecution. I have to admit thinking: How could Ann Taylor think for one nano moment that the judge would ever take the death penalty off the table.

 

[Luna20]

Why is she touching him???????

I genuinely think that she bonded with him He groomed her to have control, it’s so disgusting. The looks that they exchanged between them throughout the case were a bit chummy. Regardless she shouldn’t be touching him. Yuck.

 

[NavySubMom]

We will all likely never know what motivated BK to kill those 4 students.

He will take "why" to his grave. It was probably his hero worship of serial killers.

I'll also just guess he followed one of the girls home from their restaurant and then saw how excellent the "view" was from the back parking area (hidden in the shadows of the dark trees) just sitting in his car. Probably being a Peeping Tom and fanaticizing about killing the one girl in the 3rd floor room.

He makes my skin crawl.

It never occurred to me that he might have been a creepy Peeping Tom, very interesting thought.

 

[Miss Poovy]

Almost positive I heard it said in court today that Ethan was indeed asleep when he was murdered. Looking for a link. moo

Live: ID v Kohberger

 

[Chloegirl]

Original of the photo is News Nation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/kohberger-court-plea-deal-hearing/

Left out the original source so correcting and reposting.

Whoa! We need to SEE this photo.

I said he looked primal and that this was an entirely different person from the livestream.THIS is the image of a murderer. JMOO

 

[Magic8Ball]

They will have to put him in protective custody for this reason.

IMO

Dahmer started out in protective custody, too.

Eventually, that went away.

And we all know what happened to him after it did.

 

[Megnut]

She shouldn't be touching him AT ALL. Maybe instinctive because she's still human, but he's not. And he's not 12 either.

He did this because he could.

He chilled that whole room.

JMO

 

[10ofRods]

Almost positive I heard it said in court today that Ethan was indeed asleep when he was murdered. Looking for a link. moo

Wonderful Arielilane just posted the transcript and you are right!

It was one of the more debated facts (but it was X who had the defensive wounds, IIRC).

Ethan was asleep.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Her touching him was just icky. I don't know how she could do it without her skin crawling. Or why she did it. YUCK YUCK YUCK EWWWW

 

[Diddian]

I was surprised to hear the judge recite the mandatory minimums for each charge. Was he doing this because it is relevant to sentencing, or is there a possibility that, even if the judge sentences 10 for the burglary with intent to murder plus 4 consecutive life sentences, BK could - with the granting of parole - serve only 40 certain years (plus whatever the minimum for the burglary with intent to murder was)?

 

[al66pine]

Judge's Reaction to Mr. G's Request? No surprise to me.

Quoting from my own post 38 yesterday:

"Mr. G seems to openly be soliciting ppl to urge the presiding judge to make decisions and rulings based on information not presented in party's motions, briefs, or in the courtroom.
If anyone supporting BK had been doing the same, Mr. G. would be raising hell imo.
ICBW, jmo.


"A secondary point --- Spreading Judge H's Phone Number

"From Mr G's stmt: "The number available online for the Honorable Steven Hippler is 208 -XXXX" <-My redaction here and in ^ post.
Spreading Judge H's Phone Number?
Okay, it's a publicly avail. number online, but ---
seems Mr. G is advocating that ppl contact the judge and ignore our criminal justice system's legally imposed procedures."

 

[seasideForest]

I am surprised we did not hear sobbing, reactions even if unconscious. It is like a spell was cast over that courtroom.

Like a shock almost, maybe? Lots of emotions to see in faces tho, except BK's of course.
MOO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Dahmer started out in protective custody, too.

Eventually, that went away.

And we all know what happened to him after it did.

I agree that BK will be a marked man from day 1. We’ll see how long the guards are able to protect him.

 

[Luna20]

This is exactly what I expected. It is disappointing to say the least. Cut and dried. Uneventful, scripted, frustrating. JMOO

How about when he stood up to answer the judge at the very beginning? He was acting like he was the star for all to see. So glad the judge told him not to.

 

[Chloegirl]

Nobody talks about this. I believe he stalked them via Twitch, saw MM smashed a bit and thought TONIGHT! JMOO

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/university-of-idaho-killings-thursday

 

[acutename]

Judge Hippler began today's change of plea hearing admonishing efforts by the Goncalves family to have people call and email the judge and encourage him to reject the plea deal. Said it was highly inappropriate and disruptive to the court.


Pool photo from the @AP of Bryan Kohberger at his change of plea hearing today. He's now 30 years old. It's been 962 days since prosecutors say he killed four University of Idaho students.

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Judge: You're pleading guilty because you are guilty?

Kohberger: Yes.

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Prosecutor Bill Thompson detailed the evidence it would have presented at trial. NO CONNECTION mentioned between Kohberger and the victims and no motive revealed.


My story of everything that just happened in this Kohberger hearing:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940470069626306594

he looks awful... not physically ill, but the stare, the blank intent look