RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

  • #921
Sorry if I missed it, just joining this here on WS.. is there a map available with shooting location and POI locations in videos?
Yes! Scroll up the thread a few pages.
 
  • #922
Sorry if I missed it, just joining this here on WS.. is there a map available with shooting location and POI locations in videos?
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I made this based off of the last set of videos released. I think the shooting actually happened on the north side of the building, but I haven’t had a chance to go back and fix it yet.
 
  • #923
I sense a major update.
An FBI evidence search team are scouring a building, a building which they originally rushed to. They also are looking for a second person ‘who was in close proximity of the suspected gunman, and they have very clear pictures. They have a DNA swab. Many here observed what we believe may have been two different men. They are hosting a news conference at 4pm.
 
  • #924
So, recall some of the first videos with the suspect walking with his hands behind his back. That video was at 2:08:45 to about 2:09:07 and he's looking back toward where person #2 would have possibly dropped something. He's on that corner with the sign he was pretending to read and he keeps looking around the corner toward that area. I am wondering if that is when person 2 could have been dropping something he was looking to see.

Well let's see if this works.



What is a positive that we can tell from the videos they have shared is if a drop was made in that yard/area then they likely have video of it because we can see from the video of him running and person 2 running that the yard area on that property has video.
 
  • #925
So, recall some of the first videos with the suspect walking with his hands behind his back. That video was at 2:08:45 to about 2:09:07 and he's looking back toward where person #2 would have possibly dropped something. He's on that corner with the sign he was pretending to read and he keeps looking around the corner toward that area. I am wondering if that is when person 2 could have been dropping something he was looking to see.

Well let's see if this works.



What is a positive that we can tell from the videos they have shared is if a drop was made in that yard/area then they likely have video of it because we can see from the video of him running and person 2 running that the yard area on that property has video.
Is that the same fence as in the images of Person #2?

jmo
 
  • #926
Is that the same fence as in the images of Person #2?

jmo
It is so person 2 was capture just around the corner. The man here is walking on one side of this building and around the corner is the side of it. See if this map opens up for you to the spot. The man is standing on Benevolent and around the corner on Cooke is where the camera catches person 2 walking and also the still photo they shared.

 
  • #927
  • #928
Interesting footwear on 2nd person request for help to identify, not clear enough to really determine but would like to see them up closer.

They look like winter crocks to me.
Purple with white stripe.
I noticed that in some countries they are popular all year round.
(But not where I live ;))
JMO
 
  • #929
  • #930
They look like winter crocks to me.
Purple with white stripe.
I noticed that in some countries they are popular all year round.
(But not where I live ;))
JMO
Wow, if those really are purple crocs, I would think that is a distinctive article of clothing.

It was cold this weekend. Do people wear those in the winter?! They are not particularly popular where I live and they don't seem like they would be warm - or easy to run in, fwiw. But if a neighbor had a pair, I would likely notice them.

I'm not convinced they are crocs, but I hope they are because that seems like a good clue.

jmopinion
 
  • #931
Wow, if those really are purple crocs, I would think that is a distinctive article of clothing.

It was cold this weekend. Do people wear those in the winter?! They are not particularly popular where I live and they don't seem like they would be warm - or easy to run in, fwiw. But if a neighbor had a pair, I would likely notice them.

I'm not convinced they are crocs, but I hope they are because that seems like a good clue.

jmopinion
I have never seen them worn in the area - maybe once near a beach. There are some purple running shoes out there, maybe that's what they are.
 
  • #932
Wow, if those really are purple crocs, I would think that is a distinctive article of clothing.

It was cold this weekend. Do people wear those in the winter?! They are not particularly popular where I live and they don't seem like they would be warm - or easy to run in, fwiw. But if a neighbor had a pair, I would likely notice them.

I'm not convinced they are crocs, but I hope they are because that seems like a good clue.

jmopinion

In pic 2
the boots look different - black and shiny

So ...
I cannot be sure of anything

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  • #933
  • #934
With a 2nd person identified, I am inclined to think there's more than 1 person involved - possibly a group or organization. I wonder what the shooter yelled in the classroom - was it some kind of slogan? I think at least 1 student, probably more, was recording the session and the yell was recorded. Perhaps LE knows and is withholding the information for reasons we don't know. JMO, because we are still speculating here.
 
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  • #935
Wow, if those really are purple crocs, I would think that is a distinctive article of clothing.

It was cold this weekend. Do people wear those in the winter?! They are not particularly popular where I live and they don't seem like they would be warm - or easy to run in, fwiw. But if a neighbor had a pair, I would likely notice them.

I'm not convinced they are crocs, but I hope they are because that seems like a good clue.

jmopinion
Yes, appear possibly slip ons with slightly open heel, not certain. Trying to picture this person in this neighborhood as a local, this clothing, this appearance and on property within fence-line at this location which appears to be an open parking lot/garden in back corner of the Aldrich House property. It is public property I assume. My version of Google is when there was leaves and growth so can't tell now how obscure of a lot it is from street for possibly a connection/back pack/drop/pick spot or connection between the 2 persons. I do see a small masonry structure in the back lot near the fence line. MassGuy recent video map has 3 dots in this general area, leads one to assume something was part of the plan near this public property. MOO

4PM Update could be good to see more of what is to come.
 
  • #936
Is there any chance that LE has much higher quality footage that they could be withholding? I am well aware that LE generally withholds some evidence from the public to avoid false confessions, etc. but I am struggling to figure out the probability of there being better video evidence that hasn’t been released
 
  • #937
5 min ago

Students at RISD say the school did not do enough to notify them of the shooting at nearby Brown University​

From CNN’s Chris Boyette and Toni Odejimi

When shots rang out during a deadly attack at Brown University, students at the Rhode Island School of Design (RISD) — an affiliated college with a campus adjacent to Brown’s — were warned of the incident through RISD’s emergency notification systems. However, the alerts came late and lacked crucial information, according to a petition calling for the college to merge its emergency alerts with Brown’s.

“Given the geographical overlap between both campuses, coordinated communication is essential so that students receive timely and consistent safety information,” the petition said.

The petition, launched Sunday, had garnered more than 2,800 signatures by Wednesday afternoon.

One person who signed the petition said they work at both schools and received both sets of notifications.

RISD’s first alert, which university officials confirmed was sent at 4:28 p.m., did not refer to the incident as an active shooter, according to the signatory.

“Brown sent out a detailed alert about the active shooter at 4:22 p.m. RISD’s alert system described the incident as ‘Police activity reported’ until over an hour later,” they said.

RISD sent an alert at 5:30 p.m. notifying the community that the incident at Brown was an active shooter, the school confirmed.

RISD officials said their focus is keeping the community informed, with safety and well-being as their top priority.

“As much as this event was unthinkable for all of us, it is something we must learn from. In the days ahead, RISD will assess our emergency response plans and evolve as appropriate,” said Jaime Marland, a university spokesperson.

Brown’s campus safety system has also faced criticism.

Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said yesterday that the shooting took place at the very edge of Brown University, in an older part of a building that has “fewer, if any” cameras.

“There certainly needs to be more cameras,” Talib Reddick, president of Brown University’s Undergraduate Council of Students, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

But Reddick also said Brown’s notifications were helpful.

“They’ve been reassuring us. They’ve been doing as best as they can. Brown has been sending out a lot of reports and updates to us,” Reddick said.


1 hr 12 min ago

Grad student who was in the building during Brown University attack describes “hushed panic” for the exits​

From CNN's Brian Todd and Rebekah Riess

A “hushed panic” for the exits ensued as shots began to ring out inside the Barus & Holley building on Brown University’s campus Saturday, says Ref Bari, a 22-year-old physics master’s student who was inside the building at the time.

As Bari wrapped up a meeting with one of his satellite team members and began walking down a small set of stairs from the building’s physics section into an engineering common area lobby, he heard an initial round of gunshots.

“A pop, pop, pop sound rings out behind me,” he remembers. “The moment I hear those pops, I glance behind me into the physics lobby, and the physics lobby is empty … so the first thing that comes to my mind is, this is not a gunshot, obviously.”

But after a few seconds, the pops start again. “I don’t look back. I sprint as fast as I can for the exits,” Bari tells CNN.

A group of around 100 students in the common area, Bari says, then realized something was wrong and began a scramble for the exits. “It’s almost silent. There’s like a shriek, there’s like a yelp, there’s gasps. But nobody is yelling. Nobody is shouting. People are kind of like in a hushed panic for the exits,” he told CNN.

Once out of the building and across the street, Bari began alerting others to the attack, screaming ‘Active shooter! Active shooter, run!’ He also started a FaceTime call with his parents back home.

“I kept running. And as I kept running, I FaceTimed my parents,” Bari told CNN. “I just pulled out my phone, and they just watched me. I started screaming, ‘Dad, there’s a shooting! There’s a shooting!’ And my parents just watched, helplessly, from New York … in real time.”

Bari ended up running alongside another student, whom he did not know, trying to escape the gunshot sounds. They hid inside that student’s apartment bathroom for the next few hours.

 
  • #938
2 hr 27 min ago

Brown University’s campus should have more cameras, student leader tells CNN​

From CNN's Maureen Chowdhury

As law enforcement officials continue their manhunt for the perpetrator of Saturday’s deadly mass shooting at Brown University, one student leader tells CNN “more cameras would certainly help us on campus.”

“There certainly needs to be more cameras,” Talib Reddick, president of Brown University’s Undergraduate Council of Students, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

“I do know that the specific building that the shooter went into, Barus and Holley, he left out the back which is essentially on the perimeter of campus, connecting to the local Providence community and neighborhood. So, it’s really unfortunate that there weren’t cameras there and that we haven’t been able to clearly see his face,” he said.

Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said yesterday that the shooting took place at the very edge of Brown University in an older part of a building that has “fewer, if any” cameras, leaving police to rely mainly on videos from the neighboring residential area to try to identify the person of interest.

As for how the school has handled the tragic shooting, Reddick said he thinks the “response has been very helpful.”

“They’ve been reassuring us. They’ve been doing as best as they can. Brown has been sending out a lot of reports and updates to us,” Reddick said, adding he feels the same about local law enforcement.

“It’s really unfortunate that … the shooter isn’t in custody and that there aren’t enough advances in this case. But I know they’re trying their best,” Reddick said.


3 hr 7 min ago

Brown University defends campus security features and procedures​

From CNN's Rebekah Riess

Brown University today shared details about its video cameras, building access and emergency notification systems on campus, emphasizing that university officials “have and will continue to provide investigators with any and all security camera footage they need,” including of the building targeted in Saturday’s attack.

Building access: “Just like cities and communities across the country, most spaces on campuses do not have guards or gates at every point of access,” Brown spokesperson Brian Clark said in an email to reporters, noting that during the daytime, most buildings on campus are open and accessible as “is common across the nation.”

Security cameras: Brown says its campus has an “expansive network” of security cameras, with more than 1,200 cameras installed across campus buildings and spaces in both interior and exterior locations. Clark noted, however, that “Brown’s security cameras do not extend to every hallway, classroom, laboratory and office across the 250+ buildings on campus.”

Emergency notification systems: While Brown’s public safety team decided not to deploy the school’s siren to “avoid inadvertently sending community members into the path of an active shooter,” the university’s BrownAlert system reached approximately 20,000 people minutes after Brown’s Department of Public Safety was notified about shots fired on campus, Clark said. The alert system, which delivers warnings by “phone, text and/or email,” provided “specific information on what location to avoid,” Clark said.

 
  • #939
With a 2nd person identified, I am inclined to think there's more than 1 person involved - possibly a group or organization. I wonder what the shooter yelled in the classroom - was it some kind of slogan? It think at least 1 student, probably more, was recording the session and the yell was recorded. Perhaps LE knows and is withholding the information for reasons we don't know. JMO, because we are still speculating here.
Hopefully at the press conference we get some really good news like a suspect in custody.
 
  • #940
In the first, it looks like a man. In the second, like a woman!
I'm uncertain myself, too. I think the individual may be wearing a hooded sweatshirt under the jacket, and that they're wearing the hood. I think they were wearing layers for protection from the cold. I think the temperature was about 34 degrees F that day, and dropped to the 20s later. It started snowing at some point later.

I can't figure out the footwear.
 
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