Theory Stalker Theory

[tricia]

Hey everyone
Do you think a stalker is behind the kidnapping?
If so, is it a stalker connected to Savannah, or one connected to Nancy directly?
Whatever stalker theory you have, please post it here.

 

[Megnut]

I think the perp stalked NG's house. Casing it, perhaps intending to break in on other occasions but backing off until the morning of the crime, when he returned intent on disabling cameras and floodlights. Whatever his intention, he intended not to be caught.

JMO

 

[RedHaus]

Hi Tricia.

Thanks for asking.

My top theory is it was a solo perp; an isolated incel type who was a stalker of SG's, with a motive to get SG's attention or seek revenge for lack of attention by:

1. abducting NG who unexpectedly passed a few days later while the ransom letter fiasco unfolded (so no proof of life);

2. killing and removing NG from her home to add to SG's suffering because she'd never know the status of her Mom; or

3. abducting NG with the intent to commit M-S shortly after or later that day - drove off a mountain cliff into a deep ravine or into a deep lake perhaps in AZ, NV, UT, CA, or CO.

IMO, as I've stated on the NG MT, it's door #3 because it best explains the lack of evidence and the silence. With that, I also believe the ransom letters were from someone(s) else.

ETA: tag for @Napoli who is an ardent supporter of the stalker theory.

 

[RedHaus]

FWIW, here is a reprint of my 2/15/26 post on the NG MT... This is a detailed version of my #2 scenario, above.

"I've been pondering about the "NG Stalker Perp" OPs and I, this morning, have profiled as theories.

What if the Stalker was NOT local, as is the presumption by LE, it appears? What if the Stalker was from far away in another state or country?

What if they work remotely such as for a tech company so they can continue working wherever they are as long as they have WiFi?

What if the Stalker planned this possible horrific act, to control SG's emotions and get her attention, for a long time? What if the Stalker rented a short term rental and car (Grey SUV?) for a month or three to refine their plan?

What if they killed NG, and since not local, they carted her body far away from NG's home - into the desert or mountains? And what if those desert and mountains were in UT, CO, TX, CA, NV, MX?

What if their Tucson short term rental had been reserved to end the morning of 2/1 to coincide with their exit strategy?

What if their car rental and flights to / from the area were not from Tucson, but an airport ~2-8 hours away, perhaps with the dumping location on the way from Tucson, departing 2/1?

IOW, if it was a deranged SG stalker, did they come into town stay a while and then leave with no local trace and with NG far away?

All speculation. My imagination's queries."

 

[Napoli]

I think it is a stalker who has formed an unhinged relationship in his mind with SG. i dont think he ever OVERTLY stalked SG. He might have sent a few comments on websites like I loved your show. He is a frustrated and sad possibly teacher in a high school or college who teaches English. He is under 40. he is not local. he wanted to be closer to SG and probably fantasized he could keep NG hostage and they could discuss SG together. He wasnt counting on NG being frail.

He watches the Today show and fell in love with SG. He thinks everything she says on TV is a coded message to him. SG was off for several weeks in December and January for surgery. He became more obsessed and didnt know why she didnt contact him to let him know where she was going. My stalker is compulsive and semi delusional at times but thinks he and SG's lives were destined to be intermingled. He might have a little altar in his home with some SG memorabilia. He has never been to the prom and never had a serious girlfriend. Worshipping from afar is safer.

Look and listen to the Instagram posts by SG. All the clues you want are right there. She was responding to whatever was in the ransom notes.

The ransom notes were a distraction. He wanted SG's attention. He enjoyed watching her twist because in his misguided mind, she did not welcome him into her life. The November homecoming video sent him over the edge. He possibly teaches at a junior college and was on break during January.

He is bookish, a little nerdy, and retreats to a fantasy land that is comprised of TV and movies, especially old movies.

They will find a little altar in his home of news clips and a poster or something about SG. He has a rigid mother and no woman would be good enough for him.

My perp didnt rob NG's home. He probably took a few mementos. family photos...maybe a piece of lingerie from SG's old bedroom He took the one valuable thing there. Nancy.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I think it is a stalker who has formed an unhinged relationship in his mind with SG. i dont think he ever OVERTLY stalked SG. He might have sent a few comments on websites like I loved your show. He is a frustrated and sad possibly teacher in a high school or college who teaches English. He is under 40. he is not local. he wanted to be closer to SG and probably fantasized he could keep NG hostage and they could discuss SG together. He wasnt counting on NG being frail.

He watches the Today show and fell in love with SG. He thinks everything she says on TV is a coded message to him. SG was off for several weeks in December and January for surgery. He became more obsessed and didnt know why she didnt contact him to let him know where she was going. My stalker is compulsive and semi delusional at times but thinks he and SG's lives were destined to be intermingled. He might have a little altar in his home with some SG memorabilia. He has never been to the prom and never had a serious girlfriend. Worshipping from afar is safer.

Look and listen to the Instagram posts by SG. All the clues you want are right there. She was responding to whatever was in the ransom notes.

The ransom notes were a distraction. He wanted SG's attention. He enjoyed watching her twist because in his misguided mind, she did not welcome him into her life. The November homecoming video sent him over the edge. He possibly teaches at a junior college and was on break during January.

He is bookish, a little nerdy, and retreats to a fantasy land that is comprised of TV and movies, especially old movies.

They will find a little altar in his home of news clips and a poster or something about SG. He has a rigid mother and no woman would be good enough for him.

My perp didnt rob NG's home. He probably took a few mementos. family photos...maybe a piece of lingerie from SG's old bedroom He took the one valuable thing there. Nancy.

This actually makes a lot of sense.
I don’t know about some of the detail profiling(maybe/ maybe not), but this wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[Napoli]

FWIW, here is a reprint of my 2/15/26 post on the NG MT... This is a detailed version of my #2 scenario, above.

"I've been pondering about the "NG Stalker Perp" OPs and I, this morning, have profiled as theories.

What if the Stalker was NOT local, as is the presumption by LE, it appears? What if the Stalker was from far away in another state or country?

What if they work remotely such as for a tech company so they can continue working wherever they are as long as they have WiFi?

What if the Stalker planned this possible horrific act, to control SG's emotions and get her attention, for a long time? What if the Stalker rented a short term rental and car (Grey SUV?) for a month or three to refine their plan?

What if they killed NG, and since not local, they carted her body far away from NG's home - into the desert or mountains? And what if those desert and mountains were in UT, CO, TX, CA, NV, MX?

What if their Tucson short term rental had been reserved to end the morning of 2/1 to coincide with their exit strategy?

What if their car rental and flights to / from the area were not from Tucson, but an airport ~2-8 hours away, perhaps with the dumping location on the way from Tucson, departing 2/1?

IOW, if it was a deranged SG stalker, did they come into town stay a while and then leave with no local trace and with NG far away?

All speculation. My imagination's queries."

That woman BE interviewed yesterday said renters had moved out of the street 2 days before NG was snatched.

 

[RedHaus]

That woman BE interviewed yesterday said renters had moved out of the street 2 days before NG was snatched.

Yes, I wonder if LE has canvassed VRBO, Airbnb or extended stay hotels near NG's home, for solo men who stayed for 2 - 12 weeks, let's say, with rental departures of 2/1, and with no prior travel or stay history with those companies. And if they could cross match that fairly large set of solo men against rental cars with similar rental periods (2-12 weeks) from airports within a 6-8 hour drive (about a tankful of gas) from Tucson. Examples of airports within a 6-8 hour drive of Tucson (not counting Tucson or MX):

AZ - International
Phoenix International Airport (PHX): ~1.5–2 hours

AZ - Regional
Phoenix-Mesa Airport (AZA): ~1.5 hours drive
Yuma International Airport (YUM): ~4–5 hours drive
Flagstaff Pulliam Airport (FLG): ~4–5 hours drive
Prescott Regional Airport (PRC): ~3.5–4.5 hours drive
Grand Canyon National Park Airport (GCN): ~5.5–6.5 hours drive

CA:
Ontario (ONT), ~6-7 hours
San Diego (SAN), ~6-7 hours
Los Angeles (LAX), 7-8 hours

NM:
Albuquerque (ABQ), ~6-7 hours

Likely a wild goose chase, especially if access to these data is not readily available to LE. But if an investigator went down this rabbit hole, or had serious reasons to consider it at least, this is the sort of data I would think they'd want to analyze. IMO.

 

[Napoli]

My stalker is living in his parent's seasonal home right now. Probably in Colorado..Nancy is gone...and he is done. Or something like that. I am not locked into Colorado. He might still be in a seasonal home in Arizona and with NG..or she is buried there.