Sunderland church choirboy's 'remember me' plea found 125 years on

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An orphanage choirboy's plea not to be forgotten has been unearthed 125 years after it was written.

Workmen restoring Sunderland Parish Church discovered the note, addressed to a "Dear Friend" stuffed down the side of one of the pews.

It was written by William Elliot on the back of a chorister's order of service sheet dated 11 August 1897.

The 13-year-old asks whoever finds it not to throw it away but "keep it in remembrance of me".


Sunderland church choirboy's 'remember me' plea found 125 years on
 
I wonder why he wanted to be remembered so badly.
It seems a strange thing for a 13 year old to want.
I hope he had a happy life.....

From the linked article:

They read: "Dear friend, whoever finds this paper think of William Elliott who had 2 months and 2 weeks and 4 days on the 11 of August 1897.

"Whoever you are that finds this paper don't tear it up or throw it away... keep it in remembrance of me, W. Elliott... I was the leading boy of this choir... I love you if you love me…"

On 29 October 1897, just weeks after he wrote them and on his 14th birthday, he was discharged from the orphanage.

Tracey Mienie, Seventeen Nineteen's centre manager, said: "His letter has touched us all.


"He was clearly very aware that his time at the orphanage - and in the choir - was ending and I think apprehension at what his future may hold comes across in his words."

Nothing obvious in my usual first-step genealogy search, except that William Elliott is a common name in Sunderland. Three different William Elliotts are interred in the area, in 1909, 1926, and 1936.

I expect that local researchers know much more!

Thanks for posting!

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I've discovered (from my ancestry research) that he was only temporarily placed in an orphanage, (as was one of his sisters), but he was back with his mother and working as a solicitor's clerk in 1901, at age 17.

He, his brother, two sisters and mother all emigrated to the States at various stages in the early 1900s. He married there and had two children, and died in 1968 in San Diego. I've messaged one of his descendants with copies of the media articles.
 
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I've discovered (from my ancestry research) that he was only temporarily placed in an orphanage, (as was one of his sisters), but he was back with his mother and working as a solicitor's clerk in 1901, at age 17.

He, his brother, two sisters and mother all emigrated to the States at various stages in the early 1900s. He married there and had two children, and died in 1968 in San Diego. I've messaged one of his descendants with copies of the media articles.

Thank you!

I have sufficient experience tracing US lines back to Great Britain -- but not enough to find what you have shared with us.

Thank you ever so much for locating Mr. Elliott's descendants!
 
I've discovered (from my ancestry research) that he was only temporarily placed in an orphanage, (as was one of his sisters), but he was back with his mother and working as a solicitor's clerk in 1901, at age 17.

He, his brother, two sisters and mother all emigrated to the States at various stages in the early 1900s. He married there and had two children, and died in 1968 in San Diego. I've messaged one of his descendants with copies of the media articles.

Just found time to catch up with this and my first thought was…did his mother die in 1897 as I couldn’t work out the link between his father’s death in 1887 but William not going to the orphanage until 10 years later.

Sounds as though the family moved on to better things, lovely to know there were happier times for him later in life.

Great research @Tortoise
 
Just found time to catch up with this and my first thought was…did his mother die in 1897 as I couldn’t work out the link between his father’s death in 1887 but William not going to the orphanage until 10 years later.

Sounds as though the family moved on to better things, lovely to know there were happier times for him later in life.

Great research @Tortoise

His father, Thomas Duncan Elliott, died at sea on 9 Dec 1887. His will is indexed on ancestry giving his address as 23 Mabel Terrace, in the Hendon area of Bishopwearmouth, and his wife's name, Sarah Ann. His estate was valued at £37 10s.

They married in 1874. There are 4 children on the combined censuses from 1881 to 1911, but in 1911 Sarah Ann's census states there had been 5 children and one had died.

The four known children were -

Edith - Dec 1878
Mary Louisa - Jul 1881
William - Oct 1883
Thomas - Nov 1886

The censuses

1881

Sarah Ann, married, 28 (actual age 32), husband absent, address 7 South Moor St.
Edith, 2.

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1891

Sarah Ann, widow, 40, (actual age 42), dress maker, address 23 Mabel Terrace.
Edith, 12. scholar.
William, 7. scholar.
Thomas, 4.
They also had a lodger, age 20.

1891

Mary Louisa, 9, inmate at Sailors' Orphan Girls' Home, Hampstead, London. Sailors' Orphan Girls' Home, Hampstead, London

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1901

[Edith had married a guy from California in 1899, in Sunderland, and already emigrated by 1901]

Sarah Ann, widow, 48, (actual age 52), address 30 Burlington Road, Sunderland
William, 17, solicitor's clerk
Thomas, 14, telegraph messenger

1901

Mary L Elliott, 19, housemaid/domestic servant, at the residence of a medical practitioner in St Bedes Terr, Sunderland

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1911

[William had married in America in 1908]
[no idea when Thomas went but he's not in the 1911 UK census and he died in America in 1966]

Sarah Ann, widow, 61, (actual age 62), address 30 Burlington Road
"Louisa" (Mary L), 29, single, cafe waitress

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Mary Louisa married an Englishman in 1915 and had three children in Sunderland by 1921, and at some point soon thereafter they all naturalised as US citizens.

Sarah Ann is in the Newport, Rhode Island NY 1930 census age 80. (actual age 81)

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The Moor, Orphan Asylum where William was in 1897 - Sunderland Orphanage | East End Orphan Asylum | Wearside Online

Took boys between the ages of 8 and 13. Hence why he wouldn't have been there in 1891 at age 7.

Quoted from the link -

Built for 50 boys from the homes of lost seamen, it also took in illegitimate children. In addition, the intention was to train the children to become seamen themselves. Obviously, their education included much nautical guidance. There was also a sailing ship in the grounds to help familiarise the kids with rigging etc. With this in mind, they had to wear uniforms in the style of a sailor suit.


There is a lovely photo of young William in his sailor suit on Ancestry but I won't copy it in case it isn't allowed.
There is also an obituary which states that he had a 42 year career in the Navy.
 
And now it's been published in MSM I can copy the picture -

William-Elliot-1601420.jpg

FULL OF HOPE: Young William Elliot (Image: Erin Barrett)

Found at last! William Elliot - The orphan choirboy who only wanted to be loved
 

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