Taylor Swift sexual assault trial in Denver, August 2017

[gitana1]

Let's not blame the victim here. Any woman who has ever been assaulted in this (or any other way) knows the stunned feeling of shock and repulsion. You can't always think of what to do at that moment. I believe her.

I totally believe her too. But we are socialized to be polite. We need to be socialized to react quickly and decisively when someone tries to touch us like that.

 

[Poppyflower]

Awesome news! We're big fans and have been following the trial. I'm glad the jury saw what we saw. He is a creep. I hope all radio stations know his name and what he did.

I'm excited that she will be donating to help sexual assault victims.

She is so strong and courageous.

 

[gitana1]

So vigilante style assault is the proper reaction? Are you saying assaulted people shouldn't get law enforcement involved but just take it into their own hands? I would imagine that more often than not doing that would turn a really bad situation into a worse one... Can you clarify?

I can clarify. Self defense is not "vigilante style assault" IMO. It's self defense. Any man touching me inappropriately is going to get attacked. I was raised that way. I carry myself a certain way as a result. I address threats long before they become dangerous to me, as a result. I know how to defend myself and I do it.

I feel that if more women and girls reacted quickly, and aggressively, there would be fewer such assaults.

Final point: Predators who rape and murder people always go through what is called the "three T's - test, threaten and transport. It's a pattern they follow when attacking.

I was taught by my dad how not to pass their tests, how to react when they threaten and how not to allow yourself to be transported.

Grabbing someone's private parts is not a test. It's a threat. Failure to react aggressively often leads to the last and final phase. It is DANGEROUS not to let the predator know you aren't meek prey, IMO.

As a caveat, this is NOT legal advice. But you better believe I would react violently if someone grabbed me (I have before), without reservation. And I'd do it to protect myself.

 

[gitana1]

Awesome news! We're big fans and have been following the trial. I'm glad the jury saw what we saw. He is a creep. I hope all radio stations know his name and what he did.

I'm excited that she will be donating to help sexual assault victims.

She is so strong and courageous.

She really is. That dummy really blew it. He could've faded into anonymity. Now everyone knows exactly who he is. And I'm glad. She sparred so intelligently with opposing counsel. I loved her reward request. And now she's donating to help sexual assault victims? True class act.

 

[Hazelnutty]

I'm so proud of her for not ignoring what this man did. Surely her coming forward and pressing charges will encourage others to also come forward in the future.

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[perfectingpink]

The thing the groper never explained is why she would make up a story like that to begin with and contact his employer.

Pig thought he was entitled. We have to start teaching our girls to immediately turn around and beat the tar out of anyone who touches them inappropriately. People think they can get away with this stuff because they do.

I love that she sued him for a dollar. Now may his name ever be ruined.

Absolutely! I taught my daughter to loudly call them out right then and there and to NEVER feel bad for their embarrassment because THEY caused it. I was raised from a very young age to feel sorry for these kind of creeps and it was determined my children would not.

 

[gitana1]

I'm so proud of her for not ignoring what this man did. Surely her coming forward and pressing charges will encourage others to also come forward in the future.

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She actually didn't press charges though. Instead she contacted his work to complain about what he did. Which two years later led to the lawsuit as I guess the little creep couldn't get work after that. I can imagine it would be something she wouldn't have wanted to do- calling the cops and becoming central to a criminal case.

But man she came out on top here. She ran circles around that attorney. She came across as mature, certain and honest. And now, vindicated. He came across as a creepy predatory liar. And this gets to haunt him, as it should.

You just know he's done this before. He felt entitled and pretty confident that she would be too embarrassed to "make a scene".

Its gratifying to see how this ended.

 

[Jennifer17]

She actually didn't press charges though. Instead she contacted his work to complain about what he did. Which two years later led to the lawsuit as I guess the little creep couldn't get work after that. I can imagine it would be something she wouldn't have wanted to do- calling the cops and becoming central to a criminal case.

But man she came out on top here. She ran circles around that attorney. She came across as mature, certain and honest. And now, vindicated. He came across as a creepy predatory liar. And this gets to haunt him, as it should.

You just know he's done this before. He felt entitled and pretty confident that she would be too embarrassed to "make a scene".

Its gratifying to see how this ended.

Yes, he has done it before, but before he picked girls or women, with no power. He got a bit above himself trying to grab her. She had much more power than he. And good on her for using her power, for the girls who had none. Her $1 damages were for those girls that he has abused before. That is what his unwanted attention is worth. One dollar.

 

[gregjrichards]

"The Denver man who had his $3million lawsuit against Taylor Swift dismissed and was then found guilty of assault and battery in a counter-suit filed by the pop star is breaking his silence for the first time since those verdicts were handed down.

David Mueller, 55, appeared on 'Good Morning America' Tuesday, maintaining that he did not grope the 27-year-old singer at a 2013 meet-and-great.
He then went on to suggest that the testimony given by Swift in the trial was all a lie, but refused to actually call the singer a liar.

'What I'm saying is that I didn't do what they say I did. I didn't do it,' said Mueller.
'I never grabbed her. I never had my hand under her skirt and I can pass a polygraph.'

Mueller, who lost his job soon after Swift's team reported the incident to his bosses, is now considering a possible appeal of the verdict.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ling-truth-groping-says-DJ.html#ixzz4ppcKzme0

Not unexpected but Taylor will crush him in court again if he wants to burn more money he doesn't have on trying to defend his actions.

 

[psych-nurse]

He has done this to other women, allegedly. A caterer to his former station in Columbus, OH went live on the air last week and stated that he grabbed her buttocks unexpectedly at a catered event. She was an older lady and sounded quite embarrassed but the DJs kept her talking and encouraged her long enough to get her to tell what he did. This morning, one of the main DJs said that Meuller texted him last night angry that they allowed this woman on the air. This was all put out live on the radio, WNCI, the Dave and Jimmy Show.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Taylor Swift was featured on Time's Person of the Year cover on Wednesday, as one of 2017's "silence breakers" who spoke out during this year's cultural reckoning surrounding sexual harassment and abuse.

In a written Q&A with Time, Swift explained why she spoke so directly to Mueller;

"I had already been in court all week and had to watch this man's attorney bully, badger and harass my team including my mother over inane details and ridiculous minutiae, accusing them, and me, of lying," Swift wrote. "I was angry. In that moment, I decided to forego any courtroom formalities and just answer the questions the way it happened. This man hadn't considered any formalities when he assaulted me, and his lawyer didn't hold back on my mom -- why should I be polite?"

She added, "I'm told it was the most amount of times the word 'ass' has ever been said in Colorado Federal Court."

Swift, who called the trial process "demoralizing," said that many people didn't realize that Mueller had sued her first. "I spent two years reading headlines referring to it as 'The Taylor Swift Butt Grab Case' with internet trolls making a joke about what happened to me," she wrote. "There was an audible gasp in the courtroom when I was named as the defendant."

Ultimately, Swift said, she received lots of support during the trial, and left with this advice for those who are going through something similar: "You should not be blamed for waiting 15 minutes or 15 days or 15 years to report sexual assault or harassment, or for the outcome of what happens to a person after he or she makes the choice to sexually harass or assault you."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/enter...-her-sexual-assault-trial-20171206-story.html