TIMELINE - Where was Alcala and when?

[Mountain Mama]

Updated image being released of 2003 Manhattan Jane Doe Patricia McGlone:
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So could that girl be this girl?
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Who is later this girl?

I found this link to a photo of Patricia McGlone, I think she is a different woman than the one in the Alcala pictures here. See what you think Patricia Kathleen McGlone (1953-1969) - Find a...

 

[snooptroop88]

I found this link to a photo of Patricia McGlone, I think she is a different woman than the one in the Alcala pictures here. See what you think Patricia Kathleen McGlone (1953-1969) - Find a...

It's may still be the same woman, 2003 Manhattan Jane Doe Patricia McGlone, they're like renderings. The renderings look different because nobody knows exactly what she looks like, there are no actual photos of her, to my knowledge. The one I produced in that last post is a composite photo of what Patricia McGlone may have looked like when she died in 1969. There are other composites for her circulating on the web, and I believe there's an AI generated image as well. To my knowledge, there are no actual photos of Manhattan Jane Doe Patricia McGlone, even though they know her identity now. Here are other renderings & sculptures:

And there are more beyond that. I've seen discussion on posts as to whether the image at Findagrave is an actual photo or AI generated. I'm assuming AI generated unless it's confirmed it's an actual photo of her because it hasn't been as of yet. And I do tend to think it's AI generated because when I check periodically, I find new and/or updated renderings for Patricia McGlone. If that Findagrave photo were the actual photo of the victim, though, agreed, there's no way I think that's the same woman. I don't think it is her actual photo, though.

 

[Slater612]

New time line info here, such as, He was AWOL a few times from the Army and he (exposed himself to his sister), that must have been reported to the authorities or how else would they know that little piece of info. Is someone updating the original time line we have here at the beginning of this thread?

Detectives identify some who posed for Alcala

Also mentions where he vacationed a few times.

Also, when looking at the storage locker photos, there are some missing girls from the Midwest that (I thought) were identified in the photos, one being from Minnesota where I am from, which gave me the absolute chills. It looks as though he may have lied about his time in the military and no one looked into that either?
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[snooptroop88]

This is a follow-up to the very lengthy (apologies) Alcala photo post I had in. I think this is extremely interesting. I've been looking at that photos for a very long time, there was one small item in the third photo & couldn't figure out what it was. This is the third photo again here:
There's a swivel office-type chair in the viewer's right corner. There is a small glittery object on it. I've been trying to figure out for some time what that was. Here's a zoom on it:

I am now almost certain that is a watch. I see the break in the ring where the operating apparatus is. It looks like a watch in a case, and above the rounded (open) lid of the black case is what seems to be a person's photo from a news clipping. The ring that object makes is on the thinner side, so if it is a watch, it's a ladies' watch.

The remains of Midtown Jane Doe 2003/Patricia McGlone were found with this 1966 Bulova watch:

I found online vintage versions of what appear to be this watch. It has a band. JMO, that's interesting.

 

[dogface 82]

It looks like the same young woman. The last photo she is in motion so a little blurry. Everything else is in focus. Shot without a flash/strobe. Her hair appears to be in a knot or bunch of some kind. Pulling it shorter and away from her face. Not loose and down like the first two photos. I am don't know what you are working with. I had a Hewlett Packard scanner circa 2000. The way you input the original slide, negative or print made a huge difference in the detail you could get with enlargement. Impressive work in any case. Probably McGlone.

 

[snooptroop88]

It looks like the same young woman. The last photo she is in motion so a little blurry. Everything else is in focus. Shot without a flash/strobe. Her hair appears to be in a knot or bunch of some kind. Pulling it shorter and away from her face. Not loose and down like the first two photos. I am don't know what you are working with. I had a Hewlett Packard scanner circa 2000. The way you input the original slide, negative or print made a huge difference in the detail you could get with enlargement. Impressive work in any case. Probably McGlone.

Another creepy thing is that Alcala victim Cornelia Crilley (murdered 1971) strongly resembles that girl, jmo. And Cornelia Crilley was living right by an address Patricia McGlone's father had used at one point (it may have been his childhood home ?) in Yorkville. On his marriage license, father Bernard McGlone lists 302 E. 83rd St. as his address (and his mother's maiden name as "Crimley"). Cornelia Crilley was murdered at 427 E. 83rd St. It's a four-minute walk between those locations. Crilley was strangled with her own pantyhose. Patricia McGlone had pantyhose found with the remains. Really wondering on all of this.

 

[snooptroop88]

And look at the teeth comparisons, girl in Alcala images to Midtown Jane Doe (left is girl in Alcala images, next two are Midtown Jane Doe Patricia McGlone, early sketch and I don't know how accurate it would be for dental):

 

[Beekarina]

Hope you alerted someone. Nothing to lose.

 

[Slater612]

Another creepy thing is that Alcala victim Cornelia Crilley (murdered 1971) strongly resembles that girl, jmo. And Cornelia Crilley was living right by an address Patricia McGlone's father had used at one point (it may have been his childhood home ?) in Yorkville. On his marriage license, father Bernard McGlone lists 302 E. 83rd St. as his address (and his mother's maiden name as "Crimley"). Cornelia Crilley was murdered at 427 E. 83rd St. It's a four-minute walk between those locations. Crilley was strangled with her own pantyhose. Patricia McGlone had pantyhose found with the remains. Really wondering on all of this.
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This second photo is Jill Barcomb. Known victim. Cops are weird.

 

[Slater612]

This second photo is Jill Barcomb. Known victim. Cops are weird.

 

[snooptroop88]

This second photo is Jill Barcomb. Known victim. Cops are weird.

Sorry, no idea what this is referencing, understood Jill Barcomb is a known victim. I didn't post any image of Jill Barcomb, though, I posted an image of victim Cornelia Crilley juxtaposed to a girl in one of Alcala's storage locker photos. Then, posted a zoom of the girl in Alcala's photo to show her teeth. And that is juxtaposed to a sketch that had been circulated for Midtown Jane Doe 2003, who has been identified as Patricia McGlone. I'm wondering if that girl in the Alcala photos is Midtown Jane Doe Patricia McGlone.

 

[Slater612]

Sorry, no idea what this is referencing, understood Jill Barcomb is a known victim. I didn't post any image of Jill Barcomb, though, I posted an image of victim Cornelia Crilley juxtaposed to a girl in one of Alcala's storage locker photos. Then, posted a zoom of the girl in Alcala's photo to show her teeth. And that is juxtaposed to a sketch that had been circulated for Midtown Jane Doe 2003, who has been identified as Patricia McGlone. I'm wondering if that girl in the Alcala photos is Midtown Jane Doe Patricia McGlone.

I think the gal in the photo is Jill Barcomb. Is what I meant by that.

Does anyone else think the little girls are

Sorry, no idea what this is referencing, understood Jill Barcomb is a known victim. I didn't post any image of Jill Barcomb, though, I posted an image of victim Cornelia Crilley juxtaposed to a girl in one of Alcala's storage locker photos. Then, posted a zoom of the girl in Alcala's photo to show her teeth. And that is juxtaposed to a sketch that had been circulated for Midtown Jane Doe 2003, who has been identified as Patricia McGlone. I'm wondering if that girl in the Alcala photos is Midtown Jane Doe Patricia McGlone.

i think the gal is either Jill Barcomb

Sorry, no idea what this is referencing, understood Jill Barcomb is a known victim. I didn't post any image of Jill Barcomb, though, I posted an image of victim Cornelia Crilley juxtaposed to a girl in one of Alcala's storage locker photos. Then, posted a zoom of the girl in Alcala's photo to show her teeth. And that is juxtaposed to a sketch that had been circulated for Midtown Jane Doe 2003, who has been identified as Patricia McGlone. I'm wondering if that girl in the Alcala photos is Midtown Jane Doe Patricia McGlone.

I think the girl in the photo is Jill Barcomb, or this Robin Pettinato;

 

[snooptroop88]

Anythi

I think the gal in the photo is Jill Barcomb. Is what I meant by that.

Does anyone else think the little girls are

i think the gal is either Jill Barcomb

I think the girl in the photo is Jill Barcomb, or this Robin Pettinato; View attachment 561954

Anything with him is possible. While I think there are definitely points of resemblance to Jill Barcomb, I think that's a different woman. They do both have the same dark hair (sometimes) and thin faces.
Jill Barcomb:

Hair parted in the middle in shots that are seemingly taken years apart, the other girl (pictured below) has the part to the side. Jill's nose looks different (slightly more turned down in at the tip) and her upper lip looks thinner. She doesn't have the same chin as this girl at all. And this girl un the Alcala images looks even younger than Jill Barcomb (and I do think she is in fact younger than Jill Barcomb)

I also think it's unlikely LE would leave her images in his "collection" if they really felt she was Jill Barcomb-- but they might. Robyn Pettinanto more strongly resembles the girl in the Alcala images jmo, but I still don't think that's her, either:

Robyn Pettinato definitely looks young enough, but different complexion, different hairstyle, different hair color. Looks to me like a shorter chin and no visible cleft. The girl in Alcala images either leans towards a cleft or is extremely close to a full-fledged cleft. (The only reason I think you can't see her cleft in the third image-- that I also believe is her-- in earlier posts is because her face is blurred.) And the girl in the Alcala images, her face looks thinner and generally longer than Robyn's (less full)

Also, he was incarcerated when Robyn went missing. I believe he was in prison 12/74 to 6/77. Robyn disappeared 7/75. And Robyn had blue eyes, the girl in the images seems to have green or maybe hazel eyes.

 

[Sweetluv]

Does anyone know the color and make of the vehicle (s) Alcala was known to drive?
Also, at any point, was he known to have an accomplice?
* there is a case or two of disappearances that i assume might be linked to him.

 

[snooptroop88]

Does anyone know the color and make of the vehicle (s) Alcala was known to drive?
Also, at any point, was he known to have an accomplice?
* there is a case or two of disappearances that i assume might be linked to him.

June 1979 he had a blue Datsun F10 automobile. I've seen it rumored on here he had (or had access to) a Corvette at some point, I've got no idea if that's true. And image of Christine Thornton pictures her motorcycle strapped for tow to an automobile, I would assume his vehicle but may have been hers. Looks to be like a lemon/lime color.

I'd also assume (?) that's his motorcycle, but I'm not sure. Most people on here seem to assume it was, though, from what I can see.