TN TN - Birchwood, WhtMale 35-55, UP8189, surgical repair to elbow, no upper teeth, Jul'06

[victoriarobinson642]

Wow! Amazing new match this week for Birchwood John Doe, probably a close cousin.

 

[chaddylex]

John Doe's NamUs case was modified today, but it doesn't look like any more rule outs were added.
I am still surprised we haven't heard anything else about his case. I thought he would have been identified by now since the DNA Doe Project has his case.
I just went on DNA Doe Project's website. His case hasn't been updated since August 6, 2020. Chattanooga Birchwood John Doe 2006 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[chaddylex]

John Doe's NamUs case was modified today, but it doesn't look like any more rule outs were added.
I am still surprised we haven't heard anything else about his case. I thought he would have been identified by now since the DNA Doe Project has his case.
I just went on DNA Doe Project's website. His case hasn't been updated since August 6, 2020. Chattanooga Birchwood John Doe 2006 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[John/Jane Doe]

1009UMTN

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Chattanooga Birchwood John Doe 2006 - DNA Doe Project Cases

On August 28, 2006, hunters found the body of an unidentified white male in a wooded area along Eldridge Road near Chickamauga Lake in Birchwood, Tennessee. He was wearing a gray t-shirt with a Tom and Jerry cartoon logo, Arizona-brand blue jeans, white tennis shoes, and a bandana. His teeth...

dnadoeproject.org

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/2011009255824516/posts/3353167521608676

 

[Puzzleworth]

The newest update on this man:

Likely ancestors from Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina & other southern states.

Top DNA match of 404 centimorgans, but complicated family tree dynamics inhibiting identification

From the comments:

To provide some clarity to our description of “complicated family dynamics” - we won’t know John Doe’s full story until his case is solved, but it is possible that there is an adoption or other event in his family line.

Endogamy is not a factor in this case.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/2011009255824516/posts/3372604526331642

 

[victoriarobinson642]

New highest match on DDP spreadhseet of 508.6 cM

 

[caradana]

The newest update on this man:



From the comments:

Endogamy is not a factor in this case.

Help me out, I’m curious: how would adoption make quantitative genetic matching more complex? Investigative genealogy, for sure it would, but this is pure math and data sets. Not seeing the connection? Also, why are people submitting to be matched to him, as opposed to submitting into GEDMatch’s data pool overall?

 

[MarziPanda]

Help me out, I’m curious: how would adoption make quantitative genetic matching more complex? Investigative genealogy, for sure it would, but this is pure math and data sets. Not seeing the connection? Also, why are people submitting to be matched to him, as opposed to submitting into GEDMatch’s data pool overall?

Let's say for example that the Doe's father is adopted. You have his family, know who his birth parents are, but you don't know who he is. In many places, these records are sealed especially if he might be alive. Not knowing who he is, his new name, adoptive parents etc, means you can't trace any children he's had. Imagine adding an NPE to that - so the Doe has a different father on paper, or is even adopted himself. Things get very complicated. You can't make the matches where it count for genetic genealogy if nobody is genetically who they think they are/who they are on paper.

I know of a woman who is an NPE, her mother had a one night stand whilst married. After DNA testing the woman has found her biological father's birth family, but he himself is adopted and they don't know his new name or who he is. So it's a very odd situation of the woman knowing her biological grandparents and family, and being very accepted, but neither her nor her grandparents know who her father is.

I think there's a similar situation with another Doe - a female, can't remember which one. Her father appears to have been adopted, born to a German mother and African American serviceman. They know what his birth name was but he was adopted out and without knowing who he is now, they can't trace who the Doe is.

Sounds like this Doe's tree is tangled, I hope they can figure it out.

ETA - the matching thing is just a fun thing they're doing to generate interest. They ask people to submit what their GEDmatch kit number is and then they make a post to say if you match him. It makes things more interactive and interesting if someone finds out they are connected to a Doe, even very distantly.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I think there's a similar situation with another Doe - a female, can't remember which one. Her father appears to have been adopted, born to a German mother and African American serviceman. They know what his birth name was but he was adopted out and without knowing who he is now, they can't trace who the Doe is.

Apache Junction Jane Doe

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/2011009255824516/posts/3374468809478547

 

[MarziPanda]

Apache Junction Jane Doe

Yes, that's the one!

 

[Puzzleworth]

[RSBM]
I think there's a similar situation with another Doe - a female, can't remember which one. Her father appears to have been adopted, born to a German mother and African American serviceman. They know what his birth name was but he was adopted out and without knowing who he is now, they can't trace who the Doe is.

That's Apache Junction Jane Doe--it gets weirder. Genealogists did locate that man and it turns out he was her bio-uncle. He had no idea he had a full sibling who was also adopted to the US, let alone a niece who died in the desert of Arizona.

 

[cheemsg]

Vintage Tom and Jerry Easily Amused Brown SS T-shirt, Size XL | eBay

His shirt- Fruit of the Loom Easy To Wear label.

 

[djanga]

No news about this man, his DDP page was last updated on April 24, 2024, but I don’t see any changes.

 

[The4TierBridge]

Somebody asked how this case was doing in the NatGeo Reddit AMA and they said there was no new info which could be released publicly but to stay tuned for updates.