• #3,461
This is interesting.

Thanks for the articles. So sad. I would be willing to bet MR was a victim as well, not sure how they haven't found the body yet. Poor girls
 
  • #3,462
Hopefully this works but this is a good article about her.

Can't help to wonder why her father wouldn't give any commend and directed to the FBI.
 
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Can't help to wonder why her father wouldn't give any commend and directed to the FBI.
Possibly because of the ransom call and the fact that there was a murderer killing girls around her age.
 
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Quick questions for those more knowledgeable on the subject than me.....

What percentage of certainty or likeness does the match have to be for them to claim that it is a tentative match?
Once that decision is made, what further steps are taken to prove or disprove the match?
 
  • #3,466
This article gives some insight into Mary's family.
 

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Quick questions for those more knowledgeable on the subject than me.....

What percentage of certainty or likeness does the match have to be for them to claim that it is a tentative match?
Once that decision is made, what further steps are taken to prove or disprove the match?

Oh, boy. These are good questions, but there are no concise answers because every case is unique and handled differently, and there are exceptions. But, here goes: I think in terms of considering potential matches, unless there is a ton of dissimilarities, investigators will usually compare them, but that's just my take on things. I know when I've made suggestions to NamUs, if they weren't sure if a missing person had been compared to a set of remains, they passed it along to investigators to let them decide/handle it.

Here's an article I found which may help with question two.
Forensics, DNA Fingerprinting, and CODIS | Learn Science at Scitable
 
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Oh, boy. These are good questions, but there are no concise answers because every case is unique and handled differently, and there are exceptions. But, here goes: I think in terms of considering potential matches, unless there is a ton of dissimilarities, investigators will usually compare them, but that's just my take on things. I know when I've made suggestions to NamUs, if they weren't sure if a missing person had been compared to a set of remains, they passed it along to investigators to let them decide/handle it.

Here's an article I found which may help with question two.
Forensics, DNA Fingerprinting, and CODIS | Learn Science at Scitable

Thank you for sharing that’s good stuff. Definitely helps in understanding the DNA approach. I was under the impression that the analysis this decision was based off of was not dna related? Is that correct?
 
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I was under the impression that the analysis this decision was based off of was not dna related? Is that correct?
You are correct.
 
  • #3,470
AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.
 
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AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.

please answer my question...how do you know she was a wanderer.....and further more...what made you think Mary could be a match....?
 
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please answer my question...how do you know she was a wanderer.....and further more...what made you think Mary could be a match....?

When I conducted a genealogical search with some help of NamUs, it brought me some rules outs. I compared the AB genes to some of the genealogical matches, and it eliminated all but one.
 
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AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.
Has it been labelled a 'tentative match' by law enforcement or by you?
 
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According to the Doe network DNA available. According to The Lost and Found DNA submitted, tests complete. The Lost & The Found
Re Does Mary Rodermund have DNA in the database?

So it's not her then right? If they both have DNA in the system they would already have matched.
 
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Has it been labelled a 'tentative match' by law enforcement or by you?

I contacted LE in December with no response :/
 
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I'm thinking Mary is ruled out because she does have DNA in the system. It's not 100% guaranteed it's been compared, but most likely has been. That's why I always tell folks when it doubt, submit, but NamUs is replying with canned responses now.
 
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It seems good, though the chin seems too big to be WCJD's based on reconstructions, in my opinion at least.
I agree, the first thing that stood out to me is her chin seems too big when I compare it to the post mortem photo of WCJD
 
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Does anyone know whatever came from these photos that was shared from found film footage from the Rebekah Home in '78-'79? Was it ever looked into further by LE or anybody else? In my opinion, this is the closest resemblance to WCJD in ALL of the possibilities that have surfaced. The hair, forehead, nose, cheeks, and chin.
 

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Does anyone know whatever came from these photos that was shared from found film footage from the Rebekah Home in '78-'79? Was it ever looked into further by LE or anybody else? In my opinion, this is the closest resemblance to WCJD in ALL of the possibilities that have surfaced. The hair, forehead, nose, cheeks, and chin.

Oh my that girl looks exactly like CarlK's sketch of WCJD :eek:!!! And she has a very short chin too!
 
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Does anyone know whatever came from these photos that was shared from found film footage from the Rebekah Home in '78-'79? Was it ever looked into further by LE or anybody else? In my opinion, this is the closest resemblance to WCJD in ALL of the possibilities that have surfaced. The hair, forehead, nose, cheeks, and chin.
Why have I never seen this are you kidding me. Has anyone looked into that? Haven’t seen anything else that close.
 

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