• #3,761
Could it be that at the time of the murder, the decedent was so unrecognizable due to the beating and post mortem effects that This significantly effected ability to identify her?

Hers is one of the saddest post mortems (along with Buckskin girl), that I have ever seen. The suffering and pain all over her face; such a young child.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #3,762
Is there a reason why The DNA Doe Project hasn't taken her case on? For just a high profile case in the pantheon of unidentified persons you'd think she's be on the top of the list.
 
  • #3,763
Is there a reason why The DNA Doe Project hasn't taken her case on? For just a high profile case in the pantheon of unidentified persons you'd think she's be on the top of the list.
The local LE agency has to formally request that DDP take on the project. DDP knows about it but their hands are tied until contacted.
 
  • #3,764
Could it be that at the time of the murder, the decedent was so unrecognizable due to the beating and post mortem effects that This significantly effected ability to identify her?

Hers is one of the saddest post mortems (along with Buckskin girl), that I have ever seen. The suffering and pain all over her face; such a young child.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I've viewed photos of Walker JD's PM. It's always hard to look at those, but I don't think that she was beaten so bad she would be recognizable. She looked like she was a very pretty young girl too..
 
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I've viewed photos of Walker JD's PM. It's always hard to look at those, but I don't think that she was beaten so bad she would be recognizable. She looked like she was a very pretty young girl too..
And that is what is baffling. Pretty young girls are accounted for, sought. How is it that no one was looking for her? Or is this simply bad communication between LE departments given the year and manual processes?

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #3,766
Is there a reason why The DNA Doe Project hasn't taken her case on? For just a high profile case in the pantheon of unidentified persons you'd think she's be on the top of the list.

The WCSO sent her mandible to DNA Solutions in Oklahoma. They said they were unable to get enough DNA from it for a genetic profile. There are other labs that specialize in difficult extractions, but it remains to be seen whether they are willing to go that route.

DDP would love to take this case. They were able to solve the Annie Doe case with a very degraded DNA profile to work with. And they are working on several other similarly challenging cases - Orange Socks being one of them.
 
  • #3,767
I’ve often thought about helping fund extensive DNA testing, if it’s a possibility, so I would definitely assist in contributing and know a few who others who would probably help as well!

I would definitely donate and contribute money to put towards extensive DNA testing or anything with this case.
 
  • #3,768
Is there a reason why The DNA Doe Project hasn't taken her case on? For just a high profile case in the pantheon of unidentified persons you'd think she's be on the top of the list.

It is my understanding that LE no longer has sufficient DNA to advance research.
 
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Hello everyone, this is my first post. I've been rather obsessed with this case for the last couple of weeks, which is a very small amount of time compared to the years some of you have spent on it. I applaud all of your efforts and look forward to the day this girl is identified.

Not long ago someone noticed a girl in a video singing in a choir, some thought she looked a lot like WCJD, and some of the circumstances seemed to be in line with what we know. Has there been any follow-up on this, has the choir girl been identified?
 
  • #3,771
Welcome Craelius. There has been follow up on the girl in the video here and there over time. I have always felt like that was one of the more credible leads, so many details behind the story line up. Almost too many to just be a coincidence. A possible name for the girl in question was brought forward by others who had attended the school at the time. That name was Angie Roca. I very much put that out there with an emphasis on "Possible" because no further information has been given or discovered in research on the name.

Where are you from and how did you stumble upon the WCJD story?? There have been several new posters here recently and I always think its great and interesting to see how people are hearing more about her. That means the word is getting out!!
 
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Regarding the "Angie Roca" lead:

Using Ancestry, I found an Angela L Roca who was born in 1965 in Bexar County and got married in 1994. Could this be the "Angie Roca" in the pictures from Rebekah Christian School? (Attached is a photo of the records from Ancestry).

There seems to be only results from outside the U.S. when I search Angie Roca.
 

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  • #3,774
Regarding the "Angie Roca" lead:

Using Ancestry, I found an Angela L Roca who was born in 1965 in Bexar County and got married in 1994. Could this be the "Angie Roca" in the pictures from Rebekah Christian School? (Attached is a photo of the records from Ancestry).

There seems to be only results from outside the U.S. when I search Angie Roca.

If she got married in 1994 this would be impossible.....but some other files might be interesting.
 
  • #3,775
I think Angie’s alive if it is her.
 
  • #3,776
I found out about this case while reading about unresolved mysteries on reddit. I am not from Texas, I grew up in Phoenix. Not sure why this one really caught my attention, other than Walker County Jane Doe would be about the same age as me, and her pictures remind me of a friend in high school (who is still alive). There are a lot of details from that time period that someone from a different generation might not "get" but they resound with me. We each see the world from different perspectives, and maybe that is one of the great things about being here: all the different eyes looking at the same case.

Of all the faces I've looked at, the Girl in the Choir is the only one that really looks like the victim to me. I found the video online and stepped through it and took screenshots at different intervals. As she is reciting the Psalm, she blinks for a moment, and comparing that picture to the postmortem photo (the one that is almost completely from the front view) the resemblance is striking. It appears the girl in the choir has eyebrows that are not symmetrical, the right one being considerably narrower than the left, pretty much exactly like those of WCJD. All of their facial features are extremely similar: hairline, distance between eyebrows, nose, full lips, and philtrum, which is the indentation above the top lip. (Okay so I had to look that word up.) I cropped the PM photo so that her jaw does not show, as I can't bear to look at it. But we all know what she looks like and her lips are very similar to the Girl in the Choir.

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One detail I can't find any definitive answer for is, what year was the Roloff film made? The source that originally mentioned it said 1978 or 1979, however it could have been as early as 1976. The title of the film is "Freedom's Last Call".
 
  • #3,778
I found out about this case while reading about unresolved mysteries on reddit. I am not from Texas, I grew up in Phoenix. Not sure why this one really caught my attention, other than Walker County Jane Doe would be about the same age as me, and her pictures remind me of a friend in high school (who is still alive). There are a lot of details from that time period that someone from a different generation might not "get" but they resound with me. We each see the world from different perspectives, and maybe that is one of the great things about being here: all the different eyes looking at the same case.

Of all the faces I've looked at, the Girl in the Choir is the only one that really looks like the victim to me. I found the video online and stepped through it and took screenshots at different intervals. As she is reciting the Psalm, she blinks for a moment, and comparing that picture to the postmortem photo (the one that is almost completely from the front view) the resemblance is striking. It appears the girl in the choir has eyebrows that are not symmetrical, the right one being considerably narrower than the left, pretty much exactly like those of WCJD. All of their facial features are extremely similar: hairline, distance between eyebrows, nose, full lips, and philtrum, which is the indentation above the top lip. (Okay so I had to look that word up.) I cropped the PM photo so that her jaw does not show, as I can't bear to look at it. But we all know what she looks like and her lips are very similar to the Girl in the Choir.

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Maybe totally off base...but is this girl missing/claimed missing/a missing, missing person? Or are we just hunting a girl/picture from an old video....looking like Walker County Jane Doe? When I look at her....even Slidell Jane Doe comes to mind.
 
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And believe me I'm soooooo frustrated about this lovely girl still isn't identified after all this years....
 
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I agree Bit of Hope, first thing that has to be established is if the girl in the video still around through her classmates, or the school itself. Then take it from there.

I will look for up Angie on social media with her married name and see if I find photos using her married last name, to see if she looks like a more mature Angie then we know it isn't her (UID) if she lists her schools etc.
 
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