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Did anyone ever check yearbook photos of schools in the area she said she was from?
Yes, multiple people have looked at available yearbooks. Of course, not every one is digitized and available, especially middle school yearbooks.
 
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I noticed on the fb page for WCJD it has been said that she isn't going to be someone who is in any of the databases. I'm sure every brown haired girl listed as missing around 1980 has been submitted as a possible match by now.
Its possible she was reported missing but the report never got filed or was lost and never followed up. It was even more likely if the child had be reported missing before. In another thread on here a woman was posting that she was the sister of the missing woman and that the claim her sister had been a runaway prior to her final disappearance was wrong. She didn't know who had told the police that but she believed it probably affected the search.
Its possible that WCJD was not enrolled in school at the time of her disappearance.
The story that was circulated said she told the waitress she was going to visit a friend. The detective that gave an interview about his involvement with the case said she was going to see a boyfriend. Was that what she actually said or was that just his conclusion? I'm still curious to know if the guy who killed the bar owner in Port Aransas had a girlfriend or if any girls that hung around with his sisters suddenly left town and never came back.
 
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I'm thinking WCJD isn't in any databases, either. That appears to be the trend with DDP's identified cases so far.
When I spoke to the detective on Marcia King's case (before she was ID'D), he told me that every single missing female in NamUs had been looked at and ruled out, so they were certain she wasn't in any db's and possibly not reported to authorities. I can't recall if Marcia was reported and it just didn't go anywhere, but as far as her not being in any MP database, he was right.
 
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I am pretty sure that genetic genealogy has the greatest chance at solving this one... hopefully they'll be able to extract enough DNA (whether it be from existing material, or another exhumation) to give it a go soon. Extraction techniques and sequencing technology will only get better in the future, so it's probably only a matter of time until this one is solved, imo.
 
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Hello everyone! Does anyone know if Pem’s lead was submitted to the sheriffs office?
 
  • #4,466
Yes, multiple people have looked at available yearbooks. Of course, not every one is digitized and available, especially middle school yearbooks.
Thinking more i realised that not every teen gets their pic taken either. I missed a few myself.
 
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“Supposedly, (the girl) came into the restaurant, asking for directions to the Ellis Unit,” Burmester said, referring to the state prison near Huntsville. “She had a milkshake or something, and the waitress had a conversation with her, asked why she was going to the Ellis Unit. She was kind of young.

“She told the waitress she was going to see her boyfriend at Ellis,” Burmester said. “And, in the same conversation, it came up where she was from. She told the waitress she was from the Port Aransas area. And she told the waitress that she was 18, even though it was obvious she wasn’t.”
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Police tried without success to figure out which inmate at the Ellis Unit could have been the girl’s boyfriend.

“There was only one that could have possibly been her boyfriend, if you considered their ages, but we checked him out, and he didn’t work out at all,” Burmester said.

Cold case | Port Aransas South Jetty
Story told by retired Houston PD Homicide Detective John Burmester.
Wow. I this is the first mention of a BF at the prison.
 
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Wow. I this is the first mention of a BF at the prison.

Hmm, I'd trust the detective over the media unless they got their information from an equally/more credible source. What does the official report from whichever PD is investigating her case say?
 
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Never heard of the milkshake or the boyfriend before....
 
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I wonder if the autopsy report did find traces of the milkshake
 
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Brenda Sue Black was mentioned as a PM for a Kentucky UID, but she reminds me a lot of WCJD! I’m trying to find more information on her, but I’m unable to upload photos right now, for some reason. She was from Ohio and that’s where it shows her to be missing from, although she had moved to California after High School. Her family hasn’t seen her since “about 1980 or 1981”.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
 
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Brenda Sue Black was mentioned as a PM for a Kentucky UID, but she reminds me a lot of WCJD! I’m trying to find more information on her, but I’m unable to upload photos right now, for some reason. She was from Ohio and that’s where it shows her to be missing from, although she had moved to California after High School. Her family hasn’t seen her since “about 1980 or 1981”.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Couldn't be her as her age is too far off. Would have been a good contender otherwise.
 
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Never heard of the milkshake or the boyfriend before....

I believe a waitress asked about her age when she mentioned a prison. She said she had a friend or boyfriend there.
 
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That's the first I've heard of milkshake or boyfriend as well. How on earth would they narrow the possible boyfriends down to just 1 inmate? It would seem to me that almost any of them could potentially be her bf! I have to wonder about this....
 
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After almost 40 years, there’s not much I don’t wonder about. WCJD and the Sumter Mystery Couple are up there on my list when it comes to cases of “what are we missing? and why are we missing it?”. JMO
 
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That's the first I've heard of milkshake or boyfriend as well. How on earth would they narrow the possible boyfriends down to just 1 inmate? It would seem to me that almost any of them could potentially be her bf! I have to wonder about this....

It's possible she said a boyfriend to sound older and also tougher. If she was a recent runaway she could have been afraid that someone would call the police out of concern. She could have been looking for a relative or friend she lost touch with. Hitchhiking isn't great if you are dealing specific visiting hours. She could have been going to meet someone that worked at the prison. There are many possibilities.
 
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It's possible she said a boyfriend to sound older and also tougher. If she was a recent runaway she could have been afraid that someone would call the police out of concern. She could have been looking for a relative or friend she lost touch with. Hitchhiking isn't great if you are dealing specific visiting hours. She could have been going to meet someone that worked at the prison. There are many possibilities.
Perhaps she made up the "visting the prision" story?
 
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If there was somebody she knew working at the prison that she was requesting directions to, I feel as if that person should have come forward already (unless they are connected to her murder). Seems more likely to me that there's an inmate in that prison that knows her (whether hes still alive or not) and refuses to cooperate because they are connected to her death. Perhaps this prisoner put out a hit on her and had friends on the outside that would take care of the job.
 
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Perhaps she made up the "visting the prision" story?
While it’s possible, asking on more than one occasion for directions to the Ellis Prision makes me think that she could have gone to see someone that worked there or an inmate.
 
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While it’s possible, asking on more than one occasion for directions to the Ellis Prision makes me think that she could have gone to see someone that worked there or an inmate.
Ah yes, I had missed that detail.
 

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