• #321
Carl, I just noticed that you mentioned Barbara in relation to the Irondequoit Jane Doe and that you might check out some yearbooks to try and find a photo of her. Any luck yet?
 
  • #322
  • #323
Carl, I just noticed that you mentioned Barbara in relation to the Irondequoit Jane Doe and that you might check out some yearbooks to try and find a photo of her. Any luck yet?

I could not find her in any of the available late 70's yearbooks for the schools in Rochester.

I doubt that she is WCJD, though. WCJD's estimated age (between 14 1/2 to 16 1/2) was based on her skeletal and dental characteristics, not just on her physical appearance.

A human skeleton undergoes significant and very predictable changes between 14-16 and 18-19. Age estimates performed by a Forensic Anthropologist are much more accurate for children and teenagers than they are for adults, and I doubt that a FA would confuse an skeleton of a 18-19 year old for that of a 14-16 year old.
 
  • #324
Thinking of you today and everyday.
 
  • #325
Bump.

The 31st anniversary is next week of the day an unnamed monster cut this beautiful little girl's life short. I hope and pray she will get her name back soon so she can be properly laid to rest.
 
  • #326
The possibility of Jane visiting a guard rather than a prisoner made me think of Steven Alexander Hobbs, but he would have only been 9 in 1980. No answers for Jane Doe yet.
 
  • #327
Today is the 31st anniversary of the day she was found.
 
  • #328
The Doe Network:
Case File 91UFTX


91UFTX.jpg
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91UFTX1.jpg

Does anyone have any enhancements tools they can use to look at the necklace and see if it fits this description?
As far as the tattoos they may had been fake or removed at a later date.

She was wearing a rectangular-shaped pendant with a smoky blue stone on a gold chain (as seen in the victim's sketch above)

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/6423/14
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  • #329
Sophia has a tattoo, so she could not be Walker County Jane Doe.

But Pamela looks spot-on to 95UFTX. Seven years without removing the braces is wierd, but as ikoihil stated above, she may have not had the opportunity to remove them. I'd call it in.
 
  • #330
Sophia has a tattoo, so she could not be Walker County Jane Doe.

But Pamela looks spot-on to 95UFTX. Seven years without removing the braces is wierd, but as ikoihil stated above, she may have not had the opportunity to remove them. I'd call it in.

I am debating among myself.
If the tattoo were real, since they were so small.
Or perhaps she had them removed at some point.
though just guessing
 
  • #331
Sophia has a tattoo, so she could not be Walker County Jane Doe.

But Pamela looks spot-on to 95UFTX. Seven years without removing the braces is wierd, but as ikoihil stated above, she may have not had the opportunity to remove them. I'd call it in.

Carl there were date differences. I think typo's. I believe it was a 3 year gap. They also had 2 dates on her birthday.

Thanks
 
  • #332
Sophia has a tattoo, so she could not be Walker County Jane Doe.

But Pamela looks spot-on to 95UFTX. Seven years without removing the braces is wierd, but as ikoihil stated above, she may have not had the opportunity to remove them. I'd call it in.

Carl, I took another look at Sophia's pictures and if enhanced we can tell for certain but she "appears" to have a 1 1/2" scar near right eyebrow. Could be the photo but it does look like it to me. The tatoos could have been small and unnoticed on the hands. jmo. Can you take another look at this, enhance the face and the necklace?

The light brown hair vs dark doesn't fit and white vs hispanic but maybe someone got it wrong.


SMoreno.jpg

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/598dftx.html
Thanks, JC
 
  • #333
Carl, I took another look at Sophia's pictures and if enhanced we can tell for certain but she "appears" to have a 1 1/2" scar near right eyebrow. Could be the photo but it does look like it to me. The tatoos could have been small and unnoticed on the hands. jmo. Can you take another look at this, enhance the face and the necklace?

The light brown hair vs dark doesn't fit and white vs hispanic but maybe someone got it wrong.


SMoreno.jpg

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/598dftx.html
Thanks, JC


Here's the necklace. It looks like solid metal with no dark blue stone inlaid.
2767566470045078242S600x600Q851_zpsff1cc47f.jpg


Here's her right eyebrow:

2323001750045078242S600x600Q851_zps20e4ecf7.jpg


There could be a vertical scar there, but I think that is more likely a photographic anomaly.

Also, there is a postmortem photo of WCJD in NamUs.

WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTO AT LINK:
https://identifyus.org/cases/4630

IMO there are clear differences in facial shape between WCJD and Sophia.
 
  • #334
Here's the necklace. It looks like solid metal with no dark blue stone inlaid.

Here's the necklace. It looks like solid metal with no dark blue stone inlaid.
2767566470045078242S600x600Q851_zpsff1cc47f.jpg


Here's her right eyebrow:

2323001750045078242S600x600Q851_zps20e4ecf7.jpg


There could be a vertical scar there, but I think that is more likely a photographic anomaly.

Also, there is a postmortem photo of WCJD in NamUs.

WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTO AT LINK:
https://identifyus.org/cases/4630

IMO there are clear differences in facial shape between WCJD and Sophia.

Thanks, Carl. You are right. These aren't the same girl. Thanks for checking on it for us.
 
  • #335
Thanks, Carl. You are right. These aren't the same girl. Thanks for checking on it for us.

Thank-you Carl.
for enlarging the necklace.
I was hoping it would have been identical to the one the girl was wearing.

My other one there is not much to go on.
She would have been 24 25 when this person was found on Sept 13 87.

It is from posting 18 in the unidentified thread. Posted by JeannieC.
They state around 40 but they do have a cross on the left hand.
Sophia had a cross on her right hand. So if that's not a typo then its not her either. Thanks again for your help with the pictures Carl.

Not much to go on description wise.


The Doe Network:
Hot Case 1390
Originally posted by JeannieC

Unidentified White Female


•The victim was discovered on September 13, 1987 in Harris County, Texas
•Estimated Date of Death: 1987

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Vital Statistics

•Estimated age: 40 years old
•Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4"; 131.5 lbs.
•Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair; brown eyes. Tattoo on left hand of cross with three dots.
•Belongings: Wallet or purse
•Dentals: Not Available
•Fingerprints: Available
•DNA: Not Available





 
  • #336
Has Tara Cossey been considered?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/834dfca.html

I think she looks very much like the UID and would have been 14 at the time of the UID's death, which matches up with the date range. She's also caucasian and indian, which could account for the slightly hispanic appearance of the UID.

Thoughts? I've always thought they looked close, but figured someone has looked at Tara before. Can someone post a side-by-side? Thanks :)
 
  • #337
Has Tara Cossey been considered?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/834dfca.html

I think she looks very much like the UID and would have been 14 at the time of the UID's death, which matches up with the date range. She's also caucasian and indian, which could account for the slightly hispanic appearance of the UID.

Thoughts? I've always thought they looked close, but figured someone has looked at Tara before. Can someone post a side-by-side? Thanks :)

She does look very similar in many respects. I don't think WCJD's teeth were that crooked though. Also, given the circumstances of how she disappeared, I can't see her hitchhiking to a prison in Texas. It's possible, but I don't see it.

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TCossey.jpg
 
  • #338
bump.
 
  • #339
  • #340
Just passing thru and saw this case, looked into it a little and found this:

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...eNum=U9105002&orgPrefix=TXCH&searchLang=en_US

Very interesting and similar, both missing around Halloween, one year apart, same age, size and looks

The Huntsville girl was killed by a right handed man who bit her as she was being strangled from behind using panty hose

The girl would have had to been in the Aransas Pass/Rockport area at some time just to know the names of the towns

Likely would have gotten ride with someone that killed her, hit her from left side with right fist in front seat of car, took her somewhere to abuse her, then dropped her north of town, likely headed north towards Dallas

Doubt the killer was Lucas
 

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