• #581
bump.
 
  • #582
Did any of those inmates have pin pals? Did the police check that? She could of been very gullible and lured there with letters. This case makes me sick.
 
  • #583
Were any criminals capable of committing that act released from prison that day or month? Anyone know?
 
  • #584
Were any criminals capable of committing that act released from prison that day or month? Anyone know?

I don't know. My presumption was that someone picked her up hitchhiking and killed her on her way to the prison facility, not away from it.

But I don't see any reason to rule out the theory that she met up with someone being released from the prison.

However, the person being released wouldn't have his own car. He would have needed transportation, and someone would have had to give both of them a ride away from the prison. So if that was the case, more than one person would have had to have been involved in her murder.
 
  • #585
I've wondered whether she meant somebody who worked there, not an inmate?
 
  • #586
She could even have been meeting someone who was visiting an inmate. Or said they were visiting an inmate. She sounds like a kid who has only just run away from home... the stupid impractical shoes, the sulleness, the lack of luggage. I'm guessing she thought that whoever she met there was going to take care of her material needs for a while. Presumably they checked all the inmates who were released that day and it didn't appear to be one of them. That leaves staff and visitors.
 
  • #587
I had mentioned it before, but since this is a large thread I'll repeat it. This girl was supposedly about 15-16 years old. If this was a man with whom she was having an intimate relationship, he wouldn't want to be admitting it - especially in a prison.

Prison inmates have very few moral standards, but many of them have daughters and sisters. An adult male prisoner who is known to be in an intimate relationship with a girl in her early teens is sure to be a marked man, and might decide that the prudent thing to do would be to keep his mouth shut.
 
  • #588
I had mentioned it before, but since this is a large thread I'll repeat it. This girl was supposedly about 15-16 years old. If this was a man with whom she was having an intimate relationship, he wouldn't want to be admitting it - especially in a prison.

Prison inmates have very few moral standards, but many of them have daughters and sisters. An adult male prisoner who is known to be in an intimate relationship with a girl in her early teens is sure to be a marked man, and might decide that the prudent thing to do would be to keep his mouth shut.


It is also very possible she was meeting up with someone who worked there. That could be motive enough, for a married man who has a young person coming trying to find him, etc.. She may have been using Ellis Prison as a landmark. It looks like there are plenty of recreational areas around. Maybe a party at a marina or camp site?
 
  • #589
  • #590
I would like to submit Tammy Jo Alexander as a possible match. Lassav, could you help me out with submitting this possible match to Dr. D? Tammy was recently reported missing and FB page set up for Tammy says DNA was recently obtained from her sister.
https://www.facebook.com/tammy.alexander.16547?fref=ts
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24778/0
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ammy-Alexander-13-Brooksville-01-January-1977

I think the problem with the length of Tammy Jo's hair would pretty much rule her out , right this girl had long hair and tammy's friend said when she left her hair was even shorter, so unless it grew that fast......?
 
  • #591
I think the problem with the length of Tammy Jo's hair would pretty much rule her out , right this girl had long hair and tammy's friend said when she left her hair was even shorter, so unless it grew that fast......?


This is my reply from Tammys post.

Doe net has PM photos of Walker JD; I personally am not seeing it. Hair was 10in long no evidence of hair dye. Her friend said Tammy's hair was shorter then the school pic when school let out in May 79. Also; Tammy's sisters DNA "should be" run through the databases; if she is any of our JD's; they will catch it. Walker is in CODIS

I am not saying not to turn it in.
 
  • #592
This is my reply from Tammys post.

I am with RL, I wanna believe she is Cali, it seems to be a perfect match, but Rose says turn it in ,I'm with her, it can't hurt , right?
 
  • #593
Of topic...I do see several people suddenly submitting or wanting to submit Tammy Jo for a lot of UID's in the forums. My hope is, we can run DNA and not swamp LE with potentials...Doesn't look good for us WSer's if we inundate LE with every UID from the 1970's and 1980's regardless of true similarity. A new/old missing person is exciting (in a sad way) and gives us hope some UID will go home/be named, but let's proceed with the same diligence as before. I am sure CarlK is monitoring...I hope. :-) IMOO.
 
  • #594
I dunno. I'm not seeing it either. She resembles some of the reconstructions but I don't think she resembles this UID's PM photos much.

The hair doesn't concern me. The way Tammy's hair is styled in the 1977 photo, it would be at least 4" longer if it wasn't curled, and even if she cut it late in the spring of 1979, there's over a year to November 1980 for it to grow out.

I'm not saying don't submit, but on the other hand they aren't likely to do anything until Tammy's sister's DNA is in the system anyway, so it might be better to wait and see if a match comes up.
 
  • #595
I withdraw my suggestion that Tammy may be Walker County Jane Doe. Please forget I mentioned it. I would delete my post but it doesn't give me that option.
 
  • #596
I withdraw my suggestion that Tammy may be Walker County Jane Doe. Please forget I mentioned it. I would delete my post but it doesn't give me that option.

It sounds like her sister is running one on one comparisons 1st. LE thinks she may be a FL JD. We should know soon about the FL comparison & our Cali.

From Carl's post in Tammy's thread
Just adding a bit of info that I learned today.

Tammy is being looked at by the Hernando County Sheriff's as a possible match to the two skeletal Jane Does found in serial murderer Billy Mansfield's property in Weeki Wachee Florida.

One of the two is discussed on this thread:

FL - Weeki Wachee, WhtFem UP12589, 20-30, 1 of 2 Buried w/2 ID'd Victims, Mar'81



Their interest in her case was in the context of that case. Apparently, there is some indication that Tammy knew the Mansfield brothers because they were frequent visitors to her parents' truckstop.

The problem with that theory is that both Jane Does are estimated to be between 20 and 30, and one of them had spina bifida.
 
  • #597
I withdraw my suggestion that Tammy may be Walker County Jane Doe. Please forget I mentioned it. I would delete my post but it doesn't give me that option.

No, don't delete it. I was just suggesting that you hold onto it for a bit.
 
  • #598
Collage of Tammy Alexander and Walker Co Jane:
 

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  • #599
I'm thinking maybe as she was asking for directions at the "Hitching Post"someone was watching her,someone who was eating,a truck driver.Once she left he picked her up along the way,killed her in his sleeper,dumped the body.By the time they found her body he was three states away.
I don't know. My presumption was that someone picked her up hitchhiking and killed her on her way to the prison facility, not away from it.

But I don't see any reason to rule out the theory that she met up with someone being released from the prison.

However, the person being released wouldn't have his own car. He would have needed transportation, and someone would have had to give both of them a ride away from the prison. So if that was the case, more than one person would have had to have been involved in her murder.
 
  • #600
Tammy Jo looks very much like the NCMEC recon. The other ones(which are more accurate, I would think), less so.
 

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