Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[carbuff]

Welcome back, Mia G

 

[CarlK90245]

Also I've read somewhere Otis Otoole may have committed some murders by his self in Texas .. Mimicking Lucas (Otoole was Lucas partner at times) .. But to my understanding OToole is dead too??

His name was Ottis Toole, not Otis O'Toole, and yes he is also dead now. He was very conclusively shown to be the man responsible for the murder of Adam Walsh. I urge anyone who thinks it was someone else (e.g., Dahmer) to read the book Bringing Adam Home by Les Standiford. It is a travesty that police in Hollywood Florida were unable to pin this on Toole while he was still alive. The evidence was overwhelming.

The Killing Fields have always interested me in this case .. As has the "photographer" from Ca that had posters of pictures of girls he'd murdedd all over the states(Perkins had been sent a pic of one of these girls that someone thought resembled our girl.. But no one could identify the girl in the pic ) but both of those cases are totally mind boggling ...
Sorry I have two years of thoughts ideas and theories to catch up on..

You are probably talking about William Bradford, as Rodney Alcala was in prison by the time that WCJD was killed.

 

[mia g]

Ok one last thought/idea.... With Ancestory.coms database for DNA testing .. Why couldn't they start submitting un-IDS DNA to see if anything pops.. Heck if be willing to help pay the $99 for our girl.. As I am sure others would also??

 

[CarlK90245]

Ok one last thought/idea.... With Ancestory.coms database for DNA testing .. Why couldn't they start submitting un-IDS DNA to see if anything pops.. Heck if be willing to help pay the $99 for our girl.. As I am sure others would also??

From what I understand, those services require a submission of a sample in the form of a buccal (cheek) swab. They don't accept DNA submissions in other forms, such as blood, bone, or tissue samples.

 

[mia g]

Yes I knew OToole was Adams murderer.. But I remember something about him in Texas .. (Houston area) .. And dang on the DNA .. But you'd think they could figure something out?? Oh well ugh .. I would think they'd get more business if they (or someone) could arrange a site where people could compare their DNA to un IDs ?!?!? ( I haven't figured out how to reply to the specific comment from the phone I clicked the "reply" link and it posted at end)

 

[CarlK90245]

I found a very interesting possible in the 1979 La Porte HS yearbook (La Porte TX). I can't put her photo up because she isn't known to be a missing person. But so far I have not been able to find anything on her in any of my usual people-search sources.

Her initials are KG, and her name is somewhat common (hint: her surname is a well-known guitar brand name). She is in the 11th grade (Juniors) section. She does not appear as a senior in the 80 book. If she was in the class of 80, then she might be a year or two too old. But she looks very strongly like my recon, though her eyes look slightly different, and her chin looks a slight bit stronger than I would have expected from the PM photo. Her eyebrows are spot-on. Her nose is spot-on. Her lips are full, and her hair is light-colored and wavy just a little past her shoulders.

But the biggie is that she has a very noticeable scar right to the side of her right eye, exactly where WCJD's scar is. The scar is close enough to her eye that it interferes with her right eyelid.

She is also wearing a necklace with a pendant, though the pendant is right at the edge of the photo, so I can't see what it looks like.

If you have classmates.com account, take a look. If you don't, PM me and I'll send you a photo.

 

[Faithandhope]

How do you handle a possible person who is not reported missing?

 

[sloane7777]

How do you handle a possible person who is not reported missing?

Find them. or try to find them that seems to be the only way. Then when you find them alive try to explain yourself LOL!!! but, Carl is like freakin magic ID man so we had better find a trace of her being alive!

 

[Faithandhope]

Find them. or try to find them that seems to be the only way. Then when you find them alive try to explain yourself LOL!!! but, Carl is like freakin magic ID man so we had better find a trace of her being alive!

Right, I was just totally curious whether or not there was any "magic way" to go about it all. So much respect for Carl and everyone who puts in so much!

 

[coonhound]

I found a very interesting possible in the 1979 La Porte HS yearbook (La Porte TX). I can't put her photo up because she isn't known to be a missing person. But so far I have not been able to find anything on her in any of my usual people-search sources.

Her initials are KG, and her name is somewhat common (hint: her surname is a well-known guitar brand name). She is in the 11th grade (Juniors) section. She does not appear as a senior in the 80 book. If she was in the class of 80, then she might be a year or two too old. But she looks very strongly like my recon, though her eyes look slightly different, and her chin looks a slight bit stronger than I would have expected from the PM photo. Her eyebrows are spot-on. Her nose is spot-on. Her lips are full, and her hair is light-colored and wavy just a little past her shoulders.

But the biggie is that she has a very noticeable scar right to the side of her right eye, exactly where WCJD's scar is. The scar is close enough to her eye that it interferes with her right eyelid.

She is also wearing a necklace with a pendant, though the pendant is right at the edge of the photo, so I can't see what it looks like.

If you have classmates.com account, take a look. If you don't, PM me and I'll send you a photo.

Scar is right on the mark. Nostrils are accurate, too.

 

[squish]

I found a very interesting possible in the 1979 La Porte HS yearbook (La Porte TX). I can't put her photo up because she isn't known to be a missing person. But so far I have not been able to find anything on her in any of my usual people-search sources.

Her initials are KG, and her name is somewhat common (hint: her surname is a well-known guitar brand name). She is in the 11th grade (Juniors) section. She does not appear as a senior in the 80 book. If she was in the class of 80, then she might be a year or two too old. But she looks very strongly like my recon, though her eyes look slightly different, and her chin looks a slight bit stronger than I would have expected from the PM photo. Her eyebrows are spot-on. Her nose is spot-on. Her lips are full, and her hair is light-colored and wavy just a little past her shoulders.

But the biggie is that she has a very noticeable scar right to the side of her right eye, exactly where WCJD's scar is. The scar is close enough to her eye that it interferes with her right eyelid.

She is also wearing a necklace with a pendant, though the pendant is right at the edge of the photo, so I can't see what it looks like.

If you have classmates.com account, take a look. If you don't, PM me and I'll send you a photo.

Hi Carl, I would like to see KG, but don't know how to send PMs using Tapatalk! Thanks a lot

 

[Confusion]

I found a very interesting possible in the 1979 La Porte HS yearbook (La Porte TX). I can't put her photo up because she isn't known to be a missing person. But so far I have not been able to find anything on her in any of my usual people-search sources.

Her initials are KG, and her name is somewhat common (hint: her surname is a well-known guitar brand name). She is in the 11th grade (Juniors) section. She does not appear as a senior in the 80 book. If she was in the class of 80, then she might be a year or two too old. But she looks very strongly like my recon, though her eyes look slightly different, and her chin looks a slight bit stronger than I would have expected from the PM photo. Her eyebrows are spot-on. Her nose is spot-on. Her lips are full, and her hair is light-colored and wavy just a little past her shoulders.

But the biggie is that she has a very noticeable scar right to the side of her right eye, exactly where WCJD's scar is. The scar is close enough to her eye that it interferes with her right eyelid.

She is also wearing a necklace with a pendant, though the pendant is right at the edge of the photo, so I can't see what it looks like.

If you have classmates.com account, take a look. If you don't, PM me and I'll send you a photo.

I may be missing someone on there, but I only see one Junior girl with the initials KG and she's also in the '80 yearbook. Is there another one I didn't see?

ETA: Never mind, I found her. Thanks anyway

 

[sloane7777]

Ok one last thought/idea.... With Ancestory.coms database for DNA testing .. Why couldn't they start submitting un-IDS DNA to see if anything pops.. Heck if be willing to help pay the $99 for our girl.. As I am sure others would also??

HMMMM !!!! That sound like a good thing to throw up to ancestory and namus wouldn't it be great if they partnered up.....Im sure they could get some govt funding anyone know if starting a petition would help (I truly hate a petition for everything but this is different )

 

[shadowdancer]

I say contact Dr Derrick at Harris County, she is handled the possible match with Yvette didn't she?

Dr D is very good and very dedicated as we know from past dealings with her, I'm sure she will appreciate the lead and will do whatever she can to follow it up.

 

[mia g]

There is a Facebook page (it's public) I wonder if someone just asked if anyone remembered a KG from jr yr in 1979?? Or posted the pic to see if we get any hits (maybe Carl's recon?) ugh there is a Facebook group "I grew up in LaPorte Texas"

 

[annemc2]

Jeez, Carl - I think you might have done it (again)!

KG could not look more like your recon. Amazing find.

 

[anonymess]

I did about 2 hours of searching and couldn't find a living match for KG. Is she in 10th grade or younger yearbooks? Wondering if she was a local for awhile or just for a year. Inspiring work as always, Carl!

 

[CarlK90245]

I did about 2 hours of searching and couldn't find a living match for KG. Is she in 10th grade or younger yearbooks? Wondering if she was a local for awhile or just for a year. Inspiring work as always, Carl!

She was only at La Porte High School for her sophomore and Junior years. She wasn't in the 1977 or 1980 books.

There is also another girl YG with the same surname right next to her in both the 1978 (sophomore) and 1979 (junior) books. A third girl RG with the same surname attended LPHS as a freshman in 1979, but was not in the 80 book as a sophomore.

YG and KG might be fraternal twin sisters, but they don't look similar enough to be identical twins. Perhaps one was a year older, and one skipped a grade or was held back. Or maybe they are cousins or unrelated. But since none of them were at LPHS in 1977 or 1980, and all three of them were there in 1978 and/or 1979, I would guess that they are sisters.

 

[CarlK90245]

A few miscellaneous observations about KG's appearance for those who haven't seen the photo. She has the exact same nose, very similar lips and eyebrows. Her hair is about the same length as the recon, but it is longer on the sides, with less feathering. And her hair doesn't spread as widely over her shoulders.

The low end of the scar next to her eye is located in the precise same spot at the corner of her eye and hooks the the same way as the scar in the postmortem photo. The upper end of the scar is covered by her hair.

The scar looks fresh in the photo. There appears to be some swelling from the corner of her upper eyelid to her eyebrow, and that gives her eyes a slight bit of assymetry.

She has more visible upper eyelids than depicted in my recon, but other than that, they look pretty close.

My main concern is the chins. Other than the chins, her overall facial shape is identical to the recon. In her sophomore photo, her head is tilted back and her chin pointed forward in sort of a sassy-looking pose which makes her chin look even larger than it does in her junior photo. Her chin looks just a slight bit bigger than my recon in the junior photo. However, I have seen several instances where the postmortem appearance of someone's chin is quite different from how it looked in life.

While going through the yearbooks, if I had gone through the 78 book and scanned by her sophomore photo, I probably wouldn't have seen enough resemblance to stop.

But I stopped on a dime when I came across her junior photo.

 

[carbuff]

The differences in the hair are mostly in the way it's styled, not in the basic cut.

I'm not sure about the chin either. Clearly in the PM photo her chin is tucked way down and in the photo it's pushed forward, which also slightly changes the appearance of her nose.

But that scar. Man.