Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[rainwater]

I do not usually post on this thread, but there is a new MP listed in NAMUS that has a resemblance to Carl's recons of WCJD, and I wanted to draw your attention to her. Her hair is cut in the wing style of WCJD. The MPs name is Patricia Taylor, age 14-15, who went missing in 1980, although the specific date is unknown and a default of Jan. 1, 1980 is used.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/31371/29/

Her height is estimated at possibly between 64-68 inches. The 64 inches would fit the upper limits of WCJD height. Patricia's eyes are listed as hazel/green. Fingerprints and dentals are not available, DNA sample has not been completed yet. Her hair is listed as red/auburn. In her school photo, she is wearing a pendant necklace, although it is hard to see the pendant design.

Namus lists the circumstances of her disappearance as follows: Patty was sent to live with family in North Dakota, then brought back to Oklahoma to El Reno. From there she was in the care of Owasso Children's Baptist home and the last record they have of her was that she was going from them into Tulsa Oklahaoma DHS custody. We do have an official letter from DHS from 1994 when family was searching then, stating that she'd never been adopted out. That is the last known whereabouts.

WCJD's reply to the waitress of "Who cares?( where my family is)" seems to fit Patricia's circumstances. I sincerely hope that Patricia is alive and well somewhere under a married name. Just in case she is not, I am also cross-posting her in the Arroyo Grande Jane Doe thread also, as Patricia's timeline, resemblance, and her physical info fits both Arroyo Jane and Walker Jane.

 

[catherine.]

Just in case she is not, I am also cross-posting her in the Arroyo Grande Jane Doe thread also, as Patricia's timeline, resemblance, and her physical info fits both Arroyo Jane and Walker Jane.

You should post her in Buckskin girl's thread as well if no one else has. I don't see her as WCJD, but she resembles BS girl.

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[STANDREID]

I doubt that this was "church girl". My suspicion is that she was runaway and her parents knew she was a runaway and therefore may not even have reported her missing. If that's the case and no one ever comes forward to ask where she went then we will likely never know who she was.

 

[zelda_s]

Yes, I think she resembles BG more than Ruthie. Just my opinion ofc!

 

[rascal32]

I agree that she does not resemble WCJD in my opinion.. But awesome find because she may be one of the other does people have been searching for.


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[carbuff]

Rainwater, did you start a thread for Patricia Taylor?

 

[CarlK90245]

I do not usually post on this thread, but there is a new MP listed in NAMUS that has a resemblance to Carl's recons of WCJD, and I wanted to draw your attention to her. Her hair is cut in the wing style of WCJD. The MPs name is Patricia Taylor, age 14-15, who went missing in 1980, although the specific date is unknown and a default of Jan. 1, 1980 is used.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/31371/29/

Her height is estimated at possibly between 64-68 inches. The 64 inches would fit the upper limits of WCJD height. Patricia's eyes are listed as hazel/green. Fingerprints and dentals are not available, DNA sample has not been completed yet. Her hair is listed as red/auburn. In her school photo, she is wearing a pendant necklace, although it is hard to see the pendant design.

Namus lists the circumstances of her disappearance as follows: Patty was sent to live with family in North Dakota, then brought back to Oklahoma to El Reno. From there she was in the care of Owasso Children's Baptist home and the last record they have of her was that she was going from them into Tulsa Oklahaoma DHS custody. We do have an official letter from DHS from 1994 when family was searching then, stating that she'd never been adopted out. That is the last known whereabouts.

WCJD's reply to the waitress of "Who cares?( where my family is)" seems to fit Patricia's circumstances. I sincerely hope that Patricia is alive and well somewhere under a married name. Just in case she is not, I am also cross-posting her in the Arroyo Grande Jane Doe thread also, as Patricia's timeline, resemblance, and her physical info fits both Arroyo Jane and Walker Jane.

Patricia's sister contacted me about a month ago inquiring about WCJD. I helped her out with getting in touch with NCMEC, and the NCMEC helped her out to put her in touch with Tulsa PD to get a missing persons report filed. Once the MP report was filed, they were able to create a NamUs MP casefile for Patricia.

I doubt that she is WCJD. Primarily because the detective described WCJD's teeth as immaculately straight. Patricia had noticably protruding front teeth.

fftopic: I suggested that they look at patricia as a possible to this Jane Doe:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

 

[honesty]

I had nearly forgotten about pen pals. A lot of teens woukd get them from the backs of the magazines. I can clearly remembering publications like Bop and seventeen as well as many other publications having the spots in the back woth ads targeted at teens reading the publication. Of I remember correctly if a person wanted to place an ad they woukd send in a Few dollars to place the ad. Lots of girls in the 80s were doing this.

Back then we didn't have cell phones and Internet. Everything we did was by snail mail and lo g distant calls that were expensive so you only called if you really needed to.
A guy I knew responded to such am ad and wrote a girl in NY for years. Upon his graduation he traveled to meet her. They kept writing and after college he moved to her state and married her. Many relationships were bridged this way.

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[rainwater]

Not yet. I will get to it this evening.

 

[dizzigirl1]

I'm not sure if i should post my thought here but i think Patricia looks more like Orange Socks doe and she had a matchstick packet from henrietta, Oklahoma found nearby - the only thing that really put me off last night when i saw her on charley was the height and the nose & it is a little earlier than the listed default date.

 

[Springrain]

I believe she probably got the contact info from a magazine, or from a church, and did not know the man in real life. She may have been unaware of visiting hours or hitchhiking took longer than expected. She may wanted to surprise him with a visit and had not sent a picture. Or maybe he was transferred.

My gut feeling is that she was not having a sexual relationship with a guard or inmate, UNLESS they were transferred to Ellis recently, because even if she was not from Aransas Pass/Rockport, she appeared disheveled, so she had been traveling for quite some time. It seems unlikely, to me, that she would travel all that way...

There are so many possibilities in this horrible, tragic situation. I apologize for my jumbled thoughts. Just trying to speculate and explore possible scenarios.

 

[cvaldez1975]

when I was a teen (late 80's, early 90's) I knew girls who did this and they got their addresses from the back of teen angels magazine (it was a heavily Latino rag with a lot of prison art in it)

Respectfully snipped and BBM. As someone who wasn't alive then, I was wondering about how girls would get addresses for writing inmates--this seems like a plausible theory of how she got the address.

 

[crystal72]

I do not usually post on this thread, but there is a new MP listed in NAMUS that has a resemblance to Carl's recons of WCJD, and I wanted to draw your attention to her. Her hair is cut in the wing style of WCJD. The MPs name is Patricia Taylor, age 14-15, who went missing in 1980, although the specific date is unknown and a default of Jan. 1, 1980 is used.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/31371/29/

Her height is estimated at possibly between 64-68 inches. The 64 inches would fit the upper limits of WCJD height. Patricia's eyes are listed as hazel/green. Fingerprints and dentals are not available, DNA sample has not been completed yet. Her hair is listed as red/auburn. In her school photo, she is wearing a pendant necklace, although it is hard to see the pendant design.

Namus lists the circumstances of her disappearance as follows: Patty was sent to live with family in North Dakota, then brought back to Oklahoma to El Reno. From there she was in the care of Owasso Children's Baptist home and the last record they have of her was that she was going from them into Tulsa Oklahaoma DHS custody. We do have an official letter from DHS from 1994 when family was searching then, stating that she'd never been adopted out. That is the last known whereabouts.

WCJD's reply to the waitress of "Who cares?( where my family is)" seems to fit Patricia's circumstances. I sincerely hope that Patricia is alive and well somewhere under a married name. Just in case she is not, I am also cross-posting her in the Arroyo Grande Jane Doe thread also, as Patricia's timeline, resemblance, and her physical info fits both Arroyo Jane and Walker Jane.

Very good possibility. When I first saw her pic I swore I had seen her before but I think it's just because her hairstyle was like so many I knew. She would be 14 years older than me so I'm pretty sure it was just the hair and that I don't actually know her. I live in tulsa and have dealt w/dhs although it was later in the early 90s if they were like they were then-I wouldn't trust them to even know if she was adopted or not but seeing her age it's doubtful and sounds like she may have been a rebellious child so I tend to agree she probably wasnt sadly. I do feel it's worth looking into because so far no-body else has matched

 

[crystal72]

Very good possibility. When I first saw her pic I swore I had seen her before but I think it's just because her hairstyle was like so many I knew. She would be 14 years older than me so I'm pretty sure it was just the hair and that I don't actually know her. I live in tulsa and have dealt w/dhs although it was later in the early 90s if they were like they were then-I wouldn't trust them to even know if she was adopted or not but seeing her age it's doubtful and sounds like she may have been a rebellious child so I tend to agree she probably wasnt sadly. I do feel it's worth looking into because so far no-body else has matched

Please forgive any typos-my phone broke last night and been acting crazy

 

[strivingforgrace]

Hello everyone,

I have spent the last few days reading this thread - this is just one of those cases that sits with you, isn't it?

Something that has been bothering me about this case is the age range...I know they did the testing on her bones to narrow down the age range as much as possible. However, I seem to remember someone earlier in the thread had posting the dental charting for WCJD that was previously available in NamUS. I had thought her chart had shown all her teeth as erupted and present, including her wisdom teeth. This to me would point toward her being at the upper end of the age range. I know when I was 16/17, I had my wisdom teeth removed *before* they had erupted - as did my now-husband and quite a few friends. The fact that (if I am indeed remembering the dental info correctly) WCJD's wisdom teeth had erupted would tend to point toward her being closer to 18, I think ... at least that's my opinion! I am certainly no dental expert, however.

I also have always been mistaken for being a younger person (34 now and *still* people ask for the "adult of the home" when they come to the door, sigh!) so I wonder if this was the case with WCJD.

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there, as it's something that has stuck with me as I have read through the thread.

 

[Springrain]

Hello everyone,

I have spent the last few days reading this thread - this is just one of those cases that sits with you, isn't it?

Something that has been bothering me about this case is the age range...I know they did the testing on her bones to narrow down the age range as much as possible. However, I seem to remember someone earlier in the thread had posting the dental charting for WCJD that was previously available in NamUS. I had thought her chart had shown all her teeth as erupted and present, including her wisdom teeth. This to me would point toward her being at the upper end of the age range. I know when I was 16/17, I had my wisdom teeth removed *before* they had erupted - as did my now-husband and quite a few friends. The fact that (if I am indeed remembering the dental info correctly) WCJD's wisdom teeth had erupted would tend to point toward her being closer to 18, I think ... at least that's my opinion! I am certainly no dental expert, however.

I also have always been mistaken for being a younger person (34 now and *still* people ask for the "adult of the home" when they come to the door, sigh!) so I wonder if this was the case with WCJD.

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there, as it's something that has stuck with me as I have read through the thread.

Hi! This case really is heart wrenching, isn't it?

FWIW, I think she very well could be on the older end of the age range. She had such a sweet and young-looking face that, if she claimed to be 19, few people would believe her.

 

[zelda_s]

Hello everyone,

I have spent the last few days reading this thread - this is just one of those cases that sits with you, isn't it?

Something that has been bothering me about this case is the age range...I know they did the testing on her bones to narrow down the age range as much as possible. However, I seem to remember someone earlier in the thread had posting the dental charting for WCJD that was previously available in NamUS. I had thought her chart had shown all her teeth as erupted and present, including her wisdom teeth. This to me would point toward her being at the upper end of the age range. I know when I was 16/17, I had my wisdom teeth removed *before* they had erupted - as did my now-husband and quite a few friends. The fact that (if I am indeed remembering the dental info correctly) WCJD's wisdom teeth had erupted would tend to point toward her being closer to 18, I think ... at least that's my opinion! I am certainly no dental expert, however.

I also have always been mistaken for being a younger person (34 now and *still* people ask for the "adult of the home" when they come to the door, sigh!) so I wonder if this was the case with WCJD.

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there, as it's something that has stuck with me as I have read through the thread.

FWIW I'm 18 and my wisdom teeth have not erupted.

 

[carbuff]

Hello everyone,

I have spent the last few days reading this thread - this is just one of those cases that sits with you, isn't it?

Something that has been bothering me about this case is the age range...I know they did the testing on her bones to narrow down the age range as much as possible. However, I seem to remember someone earlier in the thread had posting the dental charting for WCJD that was previously available in NamUS. I had thought her chart had shown all her teeth as erupted and present, including her wisdom teeth. This to me would point toward her being at the upper end of the age range. I know when I was 16/17, I had my wisdom teeth removed *before* they had erupted - as did my now-husband and quite a few friends. The fact that (if I am indeed remembering the dental info correctly) WCJD's wisdom teeth had erupted would tend to point toward her being closer to 18, I think ... at least that's my opinion! I am certainly no dental expert, however.

I also have always been mistaken for being a younger person (34 now and *still* people ask for the "adult of the home" when they come to the door, sigh!) so I wonder if this was the case with WCJD.

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there, as it's something that has stuck with me as I have read through the thread.

I kind of lean in that direction as well. The snippy "who cares" answer is the kind of annoyed thing my daughter used to do when she was 25 and still being taken for 15.

 

[cvaldez1975]

lol I am 40 and mine haven't either. I guess I don't have any wisdom

FWIW I'm 18 and my wisdom teeth have not erupted.

 

[carbuff]

lol I am 40 and mine haven't either. I guess I don't have any wisdom

Two of mine erupted when I was 15, but they came in crooked and I had them pulled when I was about 17 or 18. The other two seem to be congenitally absent; they don't show on dental x-rays.