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Yes I believe you can call it that. I checked on google maps and you can see it when you look up Hitchin Post Huntsville Tx, I hope you can see it in the picture. It is marked with red
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Found this story on listverse top ten.Being that WCJD has a bite mark on her shoulder I found it interesting.

Karla Brown, and she had been brutally beaten, raped, and murdered. Although the crime appeared to be rushed and poorly planned, there seemed to be no evidence pointing toward a suspect. After two years, investigators finally noticed a set of bite marks on Brown’s shoulder. Even this breakthrough was useless without a set of teeth for comparison, though.They caught a break in 1982, when a woman reported .

So do we know if he traveled a lot or was possibly a truck driver? Seems like reaching since this happened such a long distance apart but the time frames are interesting and the crimes similar.


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No I just read about this killing and it doesn't appear he ever left or was ever in Texas. The two cases are very different and seems the only thing in common are the bite marks.


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RIP sweet girl. I'm traveling today and am on I-45. We just traveled by Huntsville and needless to say our sweet girl was on my mind. May she soon be given back her birth name.

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No I just read about this killing and it doesn't appear he ever left or was ever in Texas. The two cases are very different and seems the only thing in common are the bite marks.


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Yeah both cases are different.My main focus was the bite marks on both victims.It seems that is the only physical evidence left by the killer on WCJD.In 1999 WCJD body was exhumed I wonder if DNA was extracted?Being how far technology has come along 35 years later would they be able to detect anything from the bite mark at this point?
 
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I'm keeping sweet Walker Doe in my thoughts! :rose: Her anniversary is coming up so very quickly, I can only pray she is home by then! :rose:
 
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Yeah both cases are different.My main focus was the bite marks on both victims.It seems that is the only physical evidence left by the killer on WCJD.In 1999 WCJD body was exhumed I wonder if DNA was extracted?Being how far technology has come along 35 years later would they be able to detect anything from the bite mark at this point?

Good question. Does anyone know if they took imprints of the bite marks?


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Good question. Does anyone know if they took imprints of the bite marks?


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Good question......come to think of it yes they must have.When a detective went to question Henry Lee Lucas about WCJD the only piece of evidence they could link him to the victim was the bite mark.But Lucas had reconstructive dental work done on his teeth,so that was out the window.So yes they must have an imprint of the bite mark,how else would they have been able to compare it to Lucas.
 
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Hair color is a little off, but what do you think of Tammy Surdam, added to NamUs at the end of August?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/34986/353/

I submitted Tammy's profile to NamUs. The current thought is that she never made it out of Missouri.

This is from a March 2, 1997 St. Louis Post-Dispatch article:

Nathan D. "Danny" Williams, a convicted child rapist, is a suspect in the 1979 disappearance of a 12-year-old runaway from St. Charles, police sources say.

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Williams, 36, of St. Louis, was convicted twice of brutally raping young girls. He is serving a 30-year sentence. Authorities believe he also may be a serial killer with victims as far away as Arizona and Utah.

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Recently Williams' name has been linked to Tammy's disappearance. St. Charles police investigating the case say they cannot comment. Privately some officers say that Williams is a suspect.

St. Louis Homicide Detective Chris Pappas and FBI Agent Bill Francis are the lead investigators into Williams' past. Pappas said he has spoken with two people who, on separate occasions, said Williams told them that he had snatched a 12-year-old girl off Jefferson Street in St. Charles in the late 1970s. One of the witnesses said Williams put the incident near a college.

Both sources said Williams raped the girl, stabbed her and then buried her body in a rural area of St. Charles County.

Pappas asked St. Charles police whether they had any girls reported missing in the 1970s. Tammy's case surfaced. Her disappearance had received no publicity because Tammy was a chronic runaway.

The feisty, blond girl vanished just two days after she had been placed in the Youth in Need shelter, at 529 Jefferson Street. The shelter, a large, white house, is four blocks from Lindenwood College.
 
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Yes I believe you can call it that. I checked on google maps and you can see it when you look up Hitchin Post Huntsville Tx, I hope you can see it in the picture. It is marked with red.

Huh, that's really close to the airport. When I looked up the airport they had a topographic map of the area from 1976 which was interesting:

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I looked into the potential lead that WCJD may have been a runaway named "Kitty" and found Carol "Kitty" Donn, missing since 1979 in Florida. The issue with this is that Ms. Donn had a tattoo on her shoulder and also has her DNA in CODIS. However, I wonder if the bite mark on WCJD could have potentially damaged a tattoo if it was there, depending on its size.
 
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I looked into the potential lead that WCJD may have been a runaway named "Kitty" and found Carol "Kitty" Donn, missing since 1979 in Florida. The issue with this is that Ms. Donn had a tattoo on her shoulder and also has her DNA in CODIS. However, I wonder if the bite mark on WCJD could have potentially damaged a tattoo if it was there, depending on its size.

Her date last seen was Jan 2nd 1981, so she can't be WCJD.
 
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I looked into the potential lead that WCJD may have been a runaway named "Kitty" and found Carol "Kitty" Donn, missing since 1979 in Florida. The issue with this is that Ms. Donn had a tattoo on her shoulder and also has her DNA in CODIS. However, I wonder if the bite mark on WCJD could have potentially damaged a tattoo if it was there, depending on its size.

This is the Kitty that was being discussed

I was looking through old newspapers and saw an article in the Galveston Daily News from May 1980 that mentions a runaway girl at a local youth shelter named 'Kitty.' She was featured in a documentary about runaways and testified at congressional hearings on the "Runaway and Homeless Youth Act."

The image isn't the best and she's wearing sunglasses, but I can see some similarities in the nose, lips, and low hairline. I couldn't find anything else about Kitty or a better image of what, I believe, is Kitty testifying before Congress. Does anyone else see similarities?
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So, I found another article that basically confirms that Kitty and Kathy are not the same. The Boston Globe did a write-up on the Runaway documentary on June 2, 1980. Kitty is 17. There was a follow-up to the original documentary a year later in 1981 but newspaper mentions of it don't go over what runaways were profiled. With this information, I don't think Kitty and Kathy are the same person, but I think Kitty is still a good candidate for WCJD.

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I can't believe she died 36 years ago today :rose:

Rest in peace, sweet Walker County Jane Doe :rose:

You suffered terribly, and didn't even have as much as a name for 36 whole years. But you will soon :rose:
 
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Thinking of her often, especially today ❤️


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