Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, 1 November 1980 - id'd November 2021 - Sherri Ann Jarvis (14)

[CarlK90245]

Now Pem really does look like WCJD!

I am a little confused about exactly when she went missing, but she would have been 17 in Nov 1980 ?

It says she went missing at age 16, so it would have been sometime between 31-Mar-1979 to 30-Mar-1980

is that common? that a person proposed as one UID turns out to be another?

Yes, very common

Is there a WS thread yet for Pem?

Not yet.

 

[Moonwalker9]

fftopic: Could she be this one?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/633ufca.html

 

[Bit of hope]

Yes, I did. However,. someone just showed me some additional photos of her that raise doubt that she is WCJD. The one on the lower left shows that she had crooked front teeth. WCJD was described as having perfectly straight teeth.

Wonderfull you posted this pics....she is missing so we have to search for her...but IMO she doesn't come close to the post mortem pic of Walker County Jane Doe.

 

[Bit of hope]

fftopic: Sorry for cross passing but could Pem be Snohomish county Jane Doe (1977)
http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Snohomish_County_Jane_Doe_(1977)

 

[MysticJynx]

I posted this in the wrong thread yesterday. So here I am posting in the right place.....

Could walker Co. Jane Doe be a baby kidnapped from a single mother in Texas, Raised by the woman that kidnapped her and later died brutally out and about. Things I dont like about missing people cases. Is they will do age progressions but they dont seem to leave them all up. Sure its 30 years later this maybe what they look like. But what if they lived for only a few years and baby may die as a teenager. What happened to all those In between years of age progression. This young baby 21m old only has age progressions in her late 20s and 30s. Wonder what she would have looked like from the ages 14-18 like.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1902dftx.html

 

[rascal32]

I posted this in the wrong thread yesterday. So here I am posting in the right place.....

Could walker Co. Jane Doe be a baby kidnapped from a single mother in Texas, Raised by the woman that kidnapped her and later died brutally out and about. Things I dont like about missing people cases. Is they will do age progressions but they dont seem to leave them all up. Sure its 30 years later this maybe what they look like. But what if they lived for only a few years and baby may die as a teenager. What happened to all those In between years of age progression. This young baby 21m old only has age progressions in her late 20s and 30s. Wonder what she would have looked like from the ages 14-18 like.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1902dftx.html

That's a very interesting theory. So maybe this woman raised the baby or possibly sold the baby. In this case they would likely not put her in school for the fear of being found out (hence why no one recognizes her).
The only problem I see would be they should have found a match with DNA.



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[Moonwalker9]

fftopic: Could she be this one?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/633ufca.html

Hey Carl, sure it might be offtopic but I was just replying to the photo of the woman you posted. I don't think she's WCJD but she looks close to the JD i linked to. Missing at the same time, similar nose, similar teeth. You even made a reconstruction for her. What do you think?

 

[Bit of hope]

fftopic: Sorry for cross passing but could Pem be Snohomish county Jane Doe (1977)
http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Snohomish_County_Jane_Doe_(1977)

Thanks Carl...actually I tried to delete the whole post, because I saw to late that one of the pictures of Pem was from 1978 and the one I suggested was found in 1977.

 

[MysticJynx]

That's a very interesting theory. So maybe this woman raised the baby or possibly sold the baby. In this case they would likely not put her in school for the fear of being found out (hence why no one recognizes her).
The only problem I see would be they should have found a match with DNA.



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She may have even enrolled her in school. Suzanne Sevekis Comes to mind. She was very intelligent and even got a scholarship while she was being raised by her long time kidnapper. Franklin D Floyd. she did die in 1990 by a hit and run. She was just identified in the past 2 or 3 years. Here is a little information from that case. http://www.mattbirkbeck.com/a-beautiful-child.html

 

[WalkingTheCow]

Pem definitely does look like WCJD in that one image.

But the big thing that throws me off is that to me, naming Rockport/Port Aransas as your hometown seems pretty specific. I feel like a runaway from out of state would just name a big city, like Houston or San Antonio or Dallas. I feel like to name Rockport or Port Aransas you'd have to at least been through there.

 

[rascal32]

I do feel like WCJD was a Texas girl, or had at least been in Texas for awhile before her murder. I just feel like at the time she went missing, no one cared (like family). Young teens often run away from home and sometimes their parents never report them missing. Maybe her parents were young.. divorced.. drugs..abusive. Maybe she was in the foster care system. Maybe her parents died when she was a teen. Unfortunately there are a million scenarios. It is a shame that such a young girl was not reported missing and no one seems to be looking for her. I also find it very strange that such a young girl was hitching around the state alone.. must have been scary. I almost think she must have been around the area, no reports that she had a suitcase, extra clothes, backpack.. nothing but the cloths on her back. Because of this.. I think she had been staying near by. Plus high healed sandals aren’t exactly hitchhiking shoes.


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[Jules Clues]

She could have copied someone on the Rockport/ Port Aranas.
Maybe while making small talk with someone giving her a ride, they mentioned they were from Rockport/ Port Aranas
If she was trying to conceal her identity it makes sense that she would try and hide where she was really from.


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[Alleykins]

I do feel like WCJD was a Texas girl, or had at least been in Texas for awhile before her murder. I just feel like at the time she went missing, no one cared (like family). Young teens often run away from home and sometimes their parents never report them missing. Maybe her parents were young.. divorced.. drugs..abusive. Maybe she was in the foster care system. Maybe her parents died when she was a teen. Unfortunately there are a million scenarios. It is a shame that such a young girl was not reported missing and no one seems to be looking for her. I also find it very strange that such a young girl was hitching around the state alone.. must have been scary. I almost think she must have been around the area, no reports that she had a suitcase, extra clothes, backpack.. nothing but the cloths on her back. Because of this.. I think she had been staying near by. Plus high healed sandals aren’t exactly hitchhiking shoes.
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No, high heels are definitely not ideal for hitchhiking, but my friend did that one time when we were in HS. She got all gussied up to hitchhike two hours away to surprise her new bf. She wasn't thinking past impressing him and looking good when she set out on the road.

 

[CADwrest]

I've always thought the totality of her circumstances pointing to a very poorly thought out adventure: The inappropriate shoes, the lack of so much as a backpack of other supplies, and the lack of knowledge as to visitation procedures at the prison, etc. It also makes me think she hadn't traveled particularly far, but if that were the case, I can't see why someone in the general area wouldn't have recognized her.

 

[Roselvr]

I've always thought the totality of her circumstances pointing to a very poorly thought out adventure: The inappropriate shoes, the lack of so much as a backpack of other supplies, and the lack of knowledge as to visitation procedures at the prison, etc. It also makes me think she hadn't traveled particularly far, but if that were the case, I can't see why someone in the general area wouldn't have recognized her.

We have no clue what her shoes looked like except they were platform sandles which many of us wore. She many have gotten locked out of her house dressed like that and had no choice.

 

[rascal32]

I've always thought the totality of her circumstances pointing to a very poorly thought out adventure: The inappropriate shoes, the lack of so much as a backpack of other supplies, and the lack of knowledge as to visitation procedures at the prison, etc. It also makes me think she hadn't traveled particularly far, but if that were the case, I can't see why someone in the general area wouldn't have recognized her.

True. Maybe she wasn’t planning on hitchhiking and was riding with someone to the prison, got into an argument and they kicked her out of the car.


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[LucyOso]

We have no clue what her shoes looked like except they were platform sandles which many of us wore. She many have gotten locked out of her house dressed like that and had no choice.

I agree. It might have been a situation where she had the clothes on her back. But, I do wonder if she was more local to the area having so few items. Was she robbed of possessions on the road? Had taken a bus as far as her money would go? Is it possible she ran away and was headed near the prison to find a family member? A father who lost track or her or didn’t know she was born?

 

[LucyOso]

True. Maybe she wasn’t planning on hitchhiking and was riding with someone to the prison, got into an argument and they kicked her out of the car.


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Great thought! I thought of that as well. Maybe friends who were acquaintances? Maybe that’s where they were headed so she was trying to reunite with them?

 

[Roselvr]

I agree. It might have been a situation where she had the clothes on her back. But, I do wonder if she was more local to the area having so few items. Was she robbed of possessions on the road? Had taken a bus as far as her money would go? Is it possible she ran away and was headed near the prison to find a family member? A father who lost track or her or didn’t know she was born?

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Good thought, look at Grateful Dead Fan/ Jason. He had a backpack that someone took off with. Was probably going home when he died. She could have lost her bag/ pocket book

What if she was going or coming from a concert but got left behind?

 

[Bit of hope]

True. Maybe she wasn’t planning on hitchhiking and was riding with someone to the prison, got into an argument and they kicked her out of the car.


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Exactly my thoughts, her kicked out of a car.