Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

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  • #2,521
She is in NamUs. I entered it. Her casefile is not yet published.

Pem's mother is deceased. It was her sister who came forward on the Snohomish County JD thread.

Has her family given a DNA sample yet?
 
  • #2,522
I've been gone forever! Hi all! I don't think she was a Rhoades victim either.I wish we had been able to find more info about the girl in the photo, "Kathy".
 
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I've been gone forever! Hi all! I don't think she was a Rhoades victim either.I wish we had been able to find more info about the girl in the photo, "Kathy".

WB Springrain! Missed ya!
 
  • #2,524
WB Springrain! Missed ya!

Hi springrain welcome back. Paul...I see you think Walker is not Kathy...despite story being so similar...a while back it was mentioned that Kathy in the picture has 2 toes same size it has a name I forget...if she were exhumed from grave that could be checked but I'm sure it's a money issue. I see your point chasing to a dead end. Nobody too consult, waitress dead, where's the couple etc...
 
  • #2,525
Yeah. that's one of the downsides of it being nearly 40 years, everyone who saw WCJD that night is dead, including possibly the killer.
 
  • #2,526
Hi springrain welcome back. Paul...I see you think Walker is not Kathy...despite story being so similar...a while back it was mentioned that Kathy in the picture has 2 toes same size it has a name I forget...if she were exhumed from grave that could be checked but I'm sure it's a money issue. I see your point chasing to a dead end. Nobody too consult, waitress dead, where's the couple etc...

I think you mean Morton toe; is the condition of a shortened first metatarsal in relation to the second metatarsal. The second is sticking out from the rest of the toes.
 
  • #2,527
I do agree it is probably not Rhoades but I do know that SK's evolve, so its not out of the realm of possibility that it was him. I think I want it to have been a known SK bc I hate the idea and reality that there are people out there that do these things and never get caught.
 
  • #2,528
I was very skeptical that Kathy and WCJD are one in the same but i'm starting to believe that it is her. In her pic, the necklace she's wearing is tilting toward under her shirt, indicating to me that the necklace has a charm or something with weight on it. I wish we could find more pics of this girl!
 
  • #2,529
I was very skeptical that Kathy and WCJD are one in the same but i'm starting to believe that it is her. In her pic, the necklace she's wearing is tilting toward under her shirt, indicating to me that the necklace has a charm or something with weight on it. I wish we could find more pics of this girl!
Yeah if we could see the necklace it would be more of an identifier. That drove me nuts the first time I saw the picture.

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  • #2,530
I hope that WCJD had friends that are looking for her... but it's been 37 years, you'd think they'd have shown up by now.
 
  • #2,531
I hope that WCJD had friends that are looking for her... but it's been 37 years, you'd think they'd have shown up by now.

Honestly, unless they do what we do, they're looking on social media, probably thinking the friend is under the radar, not using social media.
 
  • #2,532
I think it can be difficult to track down women on social media because of name changes. I know a lot of women include their former last names in their FB accounts, but some do not. If they have a common name, forget about it.

I have two childhood friends I've been trying to track down for years. One has a common name with thousands of potential matches. I wade through them every once in a while looking for her.

The other has an unusual/uncommon last name and I still can't find her. I'm not sure if she's not on social media or just not using her former last name. Her son has a common last name, so I can't go that route, it's too daunting. I found one other potential relative but he hasn't been on FB for years. Like my college roommate, I'm sure she'll pop up someday.

I recently found a childhood friend that I hadn't seen since the early 80s. The last time I saw her, she was 17 and had just hitchhiked from FL to Maine with a guy. Now, if that doesn't sound like a classic missing teenager scenario waiting to happen, I don't know what else does. I found a Jane Doe in FL that looked just like her back then and thought for sure it could be her. It wasn't, I was finally able to track her down. And just because I hadn't heard from her in all that time, didn't mean she'd met an untimely demise, we had just lost touch. Which, before the internet, happened a lot if someone moved around a lot and you lost their address and phone number, you lost that person. There was no whitepagesdotcom in the 80s.


So, it is possible WCJD's friends ARE looking for her, they just aren't having any luck and haven't put two and two together yet and searched through unidentified remains. It might not have occurred to them yet to do so. Maybe they are waiting for her to pop up one day on social media, which has happened to me twice.

But, keep in mind Jimmy Reymer. His sister had been looking for him in the mid-west for 30+ years, and his JD photo was all over the internet, and it still didn't "click" for her or the investigators helping her. He was in NC the whole time. It took a classmate to finally recognize his picture and connect the dots. But for me, because this is something I'm interested in, of course I keep my two friends in the back of my mind when I go searching through remain, but it's not something I'm actively sifting through with them in mind.
 
  • #2,533
I think it can be difficult to track down women on social media because of name changes. I know a lot of women include their former last names in their FB accounts, but some do not. If they have a common name, forget about it.

I have two childhood friends I've been trying to track down for years. One has a common name with thousands of potential matches. I wade through them every once in a while looking for her.

The other has an unusual/uncommon last name and I still can't find her. I'm not sure if she's not on social media or just not using her former last name. Her son has a common last name, so I can't go that route, it's too daunting. I found one other potential relative but he hasn't been on FB for years. Like my college roommate, I'm sure she'll pop up someday.

I recently found a childhood friend that I hadn't seen since the early 80s. The last time I saw her, she was 17 and had just hitchhiked from FL to Maine with a guy. Now, if that doesn't sound like a classic missing teenager scenario waiting to happen, I don't know what else does. I found a Jane Doe in FL that looked just like her back then and thought for sure it could be her. It wasn't, I was finally able to track her down. And just because I hadn't heard from her in all that time, didn't mean she'd met an untimely demise, we had just lost touch. Which, before the internet, happened a lot if someone moved around a lot and you lost their address and phone number, you lost that person. There was no whitepagesdotcom in the 80s.


So, it is possible WCJD's friends ARE looking for her, they just aren't having any luck and haven't put two and two together yet and searched through unidentified remains. It might not have occurred to them yet to do so. Maybe they are waiting for her to pop up one day on social media, which has happened to me twice.

But, keep in mind Jimmy Reymer. His sister had been looking for him in the mid-west for 30+ years, and his JD photo was all over the internet, and it still didn't "click" for her or the investigators helping her. He was in NC the whole time. It took a classmate to finally recognize his picture and connect the dots. But for me, because this is something I'm interested in, of course I keep my two friends in the back of my mind when I go searching through remain, but it's not something I'm actively sifting through with them in mind.
Exactly, my mother and her siblings were adopted by their step-father when she was three years old, so she had a different name then her birth name. After my grandmother and my mom's biological father divorced they cut ties completely. He remarried and had another child eventually. He told her about her other siblings and she searched for them. Without a surname I'm sure it was impossible. It wasn't until a few years ago I found her on ancestry that my mother even knew she had a missing sibling.

Another time I was searching for my preschool best friend I haven't seen since we were 5 years old. He had a uncommon last name, but still I didn't find him until a year later.

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  • #2,534
Maybe this girl was headed to see someone who worked at the prison. Or the prison was just a direction landmark to the home she was actually headed too.

Great post!!! I don't believe she was going to visit anyone at the prison, but this was simply a landmark. Great call!!!
 
  • #2,535
Found an interesting article that links our Jane Doe to three other cases. It sounds like a credible theory, as all the victims were found along I-45 and were killed the same way.

One of the three others was listed as NamUs UP 4625 [POSTMORTEM WARNING]. The article didn't elaborate on the other two victims (one was identified) but I believe the other unidentified woman could be 447UFTX who was found along I-45 by an airport described in the story.
 
  • #2,536
Yeah, looks like it was a serial killer... but WCJD was white and some/all the other victims were black?
 
  • #2,537
it seems like they may have just been victims of opportunity. they were all described as high risk.
 
  • #2,538
I think the key might be starting a separate campaign to find out who Kathy is.
 
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Yeah, looks like it was a serial killer... but WCJD was white and some/all the other victims were black?

Contrary to popular belief, not all serial killers have a racial preference or physical type. Many do, but others operate more by situation or opportunity. They'll stake out a location, for instance, and take whoever comes through, or choose the first prostitute they come across. Sometimes they don't even care about age or sex. So it seems possible that if the killer is a trucker picking up women hitching rides, he might be going by opportunity rather than a particular profile.
 
  • #2,540
Found an interesting article that links our Jane Doe to three other cases. It sounds like a credible theory, as all the victims were found along I-45 and were killed the same way.

One of the three others was listed as NamUs UP 4625 [POSTMORTEM WARNING]. The article didn't elaborate on the other two victims (one was identified) but I believe the other unidentified woman could be 447UFTX who was found along I-45 by an airport described in the story.

The key in this article is "some of them were sexually assaulted the same way". This just may be the connector and LE is not necessarily releasing it.
 
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