I think the police would have looked at any one released that day or the day before when no one in the prison admitted to knowing her. I wonder if they questioned prisoners in other units? I think the person who killed her wasn't connected to the prison and just happened to stumble across her at some point in her journey.(First of all, hi everyone!)
Does anyone know when they started gathering DNA from convicted criminals in Texas? After reading most of this thread, I felt she might have wanted to look up a long-lost father or brother in prison. But then I figured that if that was the case they probably would have found a DNA match. Unless they died or got out before they started the DNA program.
I don’t think whomever she was going to visit knew she was coming. Her entire trip doesn’t seem well-planned, more like she decided to go in the spur of the moment and completely underestimated the trip.
I agree that it doesn’t really make sense for her to leave the Hitchin’ Post so quickly when it was already late and well past visiting hours at the prison. Does anyone know if they looked into criminals who got out or paroled around that time? Maybe she wanted to get to the prison because the person she was meeting up with was being released. It could explain why she kept going regardless of the time and why no one /inside/ the prison knew her?
(First of all, hi everyone!)
Does anyone know when they started gathering DNA from convicted criminals in Texas? After reading most of this thread, I felt she might have wanted to look up a long-lost father or brother in prison. But then I figured that if that was the case they probably would have found a DNA match. Unless they died or got out before they started the DNA program.
I don’t think whomever she was going to visit knew she was coming. Her entire trip doesn’t seem well-planned, more like she decided to go in the spur of the moment and completely underestimated the trip.
I agree that it doesn’t really make sense for her to leave the Hitchin’ Post so quickly when it was already late and well past visiting hours at the prison. Does anyone know if they looked into criminals who got out or paroled around that time? Maybe she wanted to get to the prison because the person she was meeting up with was being released. It could explain why she kept going regardless of the time and why no one /inside/ the prison knew her?
Respectfully, I wouldn't assume this. Record keeping has improved since 1980, but even today there are all sorts of record goof ups. We have a long way to go with accurate and timely law enforcement records, and most especially how they are nationally and internationally connected. Back in 1980 the majority was manual, so who knows what shape those records are in.I think the police would have looked at any one released that day or the day before when no one in the prison admitted to knowing her. I wonder if they questioned prisoners in other units? I think the person who killed her wasn't connected to the prison and just happened to stumble across her at some point in her journey.
I don't think "Walker County Jane Doe" is a bad choice; it's descriptive geographically if nothing else. That said, these nicknames if you will, *are* important. "Buckskin girl" is a perfect example. Her case got a lot of attention just because of that jacket and the moniker.Yes that would Springrain,she gave her that name.
I think ‘Ruthie’is a good name,I told Springrain that if it ended up being her real name that it would be very creepy,lol.I don't think "Walker County Jane Doe" is a bad choice; it's descriptive geographically if nothing else. That said, these nicknames if you will, *are* important. "Buckskin girl" is a perfect example. Her case got a lot of attention just because of that jacket and the moniker.
So the old adage of "what's in a name" really does mean something. If I were going to give this child a moniker (and I do believe her to be a child of 14 and maybe even younger), I would call her "Bluebonnet Doe" as that is the Texas state flower. And sadly, this child was born on earth, to bloom in heaven. : (
Respectfully, I wouldn't assume this. Record keeping has improved since 1980, but even today there are all sorts of record goof ups. We have a long way to go with accurate and timely law enforcement records, and most especially how they are nationally and internationally connected. Back in 1980 the majority was manual, so who knows what shape those records are in.
I'm dwelling on the fact this poor child was abused with a blunt object, beaten, there was no semen present, and of course the bite mark. Quite a distinct profile. Was the Perp impotent, diabetic, war wounded, or....female? My guess is male and impotent.
Someone upthread was talking about Henry Lee Lucas. He is an interesting list courtesy of Wikipedia of all serial killers. Useful, and chilling:
List of serial killers by number of victims - Wikipedia
If the attacker was female then it must have been like a butch kind of lesbian because the beating inflicted on her was very brutal.
No the serial killer was Robert Ben Rhodes. The man who found WCJD was from Friendswood, Texas. I have also wondered though if WCJD was the same girl they talked to. I think they recognized the shoes she was carrying.I just checked back and noticed something that surprised me. When I opened this thread I clicked to the Porchlight thread from the beginning. James Rhoades was the trucker who found WCJD? He is a serial killer right? I have been reading this thread over a long period of time and never saw him named as the actual person who found her body. That man was brutal. Have they checked his log? Maybe she was not the teenager from the night before, maybe she came with him? His log would show the route he was driving over the period prior to that. All of the people that have been reading here I am sure I was not the only person to note his name. Is it the same person? Am I missing a major part of the thread? Sorry guys I've been reading over time and may have forgotten or missed something about that.
Ok, I read a story about him last night and thought they spelled it with an a. I didnt even look before posting either, sorry. It just made alarm bells ding in my head big time. Thank you for the clarityNo the serial killer was Robert Ben Rhodes. The man who found WCJD was from Friendswood, Texas.
Its been suggested before since RBR was in Texas that they might be related. I found an article yesterday stating the man who found her was from Friendswood so I did a little research and found he had a daughter about the age of WCJD.Ok, I read a story about him last night and thought they spelled it with an a. I didnt even look before posting either, sorry. It just made alarm bells ding in my head big time. Thank you for the clarity
This may have been discussed. I wonder is it possible she got confused about this: Ellis Prison in Huntsville or could she have gotten it confused from Ellis County Jail? It's 2to 2.5 hours north. Did the detectives consider this and ask inmates at Ellis Co. Jail in Waxahachie,Tx.? I know adults that say prison when they mean jail. There's a big difference but some ppl think of jail as jail, regardless of local county or prison. She could've asked someone far earlier and they said "oh you mean the prison" and gotten her all mixed up. That may be random idk. I just wonder did they consider checking the jail inmates there.
I don't know if Ellis Co. (Waxahachie) had a jail built in 1980 or if they were using cells inside the court house? Our local jail was in the back of the courthouse. It was on the back side and labeled as the county jail. In the 90's they built a large jail that stands independent of the courthouse miles away now.
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I kind of wonder exactly where she was found. According to nameus they dont know they exact spot and doenetwork states "A truck driver passing by the Sam Houston National Forest found the unclothed body of the victim. She was lying face down on the shoulder of I-45 north, a half mile south of FM 1696 exit, 2 miles north of Huntsville"
When I check the "General Location" from nameus it seems like it's not close to the roadside which makes me wonder if the perp knew the location well enough to take the time to dump her there instead of just close to the road of the highway, Was he local? maybe a cop? Perhaps he's still in the area. The location of the body makes a huge difference IMO.
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