GUILTY UK - Bernadette Walker, 17, left parent's car, Peterborough, 21 July 2020 *Arrests* #5

[mspuurfect]

Thank you @MIdge28 for showing up for Bernadette and being her voice, without you we wouldn’t have heard half of the evidence that has been presented! It seems the PT took a vow of silence half way through the trial.

WHY was the joint enterprise murder charge dropped against SaW the more we’ve heard the more it shows that she was the ‘brains’ behind the web of lies. She is a master manipulator and has lied to everyone around her for a long time, even before Bernadette’s disappearance. Threatening B with the police saying she was at the station reporting her for ‘lying’. I honestly hope she gets the maximum sentence allowed for perverting the course of justice, she should be up on many more charges.

ScW paying a random stranger £10 to take a photo is just plain weird too. I hope Bernadette’s older siblings wake up and realise they have been used and manipulated by their own mother, B is dead and I just pray that she is found soon so she can be laid to rest. This whole situation is just so sad, poor B, poor kids, may the jury get it right and convict on all counts.​

Totally agree but just not enough evidence against her for CPS to charge her with joint enterprise - it is soooo frustrating!! This so called 'mother' has at least covered up her daughters murder and IMO planned it. Just not evidence to convict sadly on that charge, hoping the jury see through the lies and give her maximum sentence to what she can be charged on. Also hoping now her friends/family see the web of deceit she has built and can see her for the manipulator she really is

 

[MIdge28]

Do you have any more on who these witnesses were for the time his phone was off that Saturday Midge?

Sorry I wasn’t very clear - I meant ScW and SaW’s witness accounts - when they were interviewed before their arrests.

 

[SpursGyal]

Thanks, once again for the great updates @MIdge28

 

[Sarahlou]

Hoping justice will be served! It's a shame SW couldn't be charged with joint enterprise imo. Thanks to everyone who has posted updates in this thread!

 

[Bogyo13]

Thanks Midge for the amazing report!!

OMG those hospital shenanigans wow!
I really don't understand why Sc would let Sa pretend the baby is Chris'? Was this just a scheme to get money out of Chris for child maintenance from the get go? But it was mentioned he's still with her??? Why??? What can she do other women don't?


Also I am interested in when that DNA test was done? After their arrest? Ch must have been notified of the results. I honestly feel really bad for him in the middle of this whole murder mess.
I really hope Bea will be found soon, I was expecting Sc to confess at that meltdown but now I feel it was all part of the show.
MOO

 

[Tortoise]

"Judge McGowan said there had been a number of examples of ‘Scott and Sarah Walker acting together to deceive someone’.

"One example was when, on July 19, Scott Walker used Bernadette’s phone to message Sarah Walker while she was at a friend’s house.

"The jury were told that Scott Walker said he had done that following a trip to a shop the pair made on the evening of July 18, where Sarah Walker had bought a phone top up voucher and used it on Bernadette’s phone.

"Judge McGowan said; “He says ‘I was trying to protect Sarah, as he had seen a CCTV camera at the shop and thought there might be footage and someone could put pieces together if there was an investigation by social services, so it was important to show Bernadette’s phone was not in Sarah’s possession’.

“What you make of that is up to you.”"

Bernadette Walker murder trial: Judge tells jury hour and a half Scott Walker had mobile phone turned off when Bernadette went missing is ‘all important time’


What do we make of it? ........ what do we make of it? HOGWASH is what I make of it!

Are social services going to be inspecting Sarah's bank records and trawling around for cctv footage "to put the pieces together" of Sarah topping up Bee's phone, when Bee walks back home later that night? She only 'ran away' a few hours earlier and they're already thinking there is going to be a full forensic investigation of themselves involving seizure of CCTV footage, and not where Bee might be. Or maybe if Bee becomes a permanent missing person?

They seemed to be in possession of uncanny knowledge that she wouldn't be walking home, or even at home while they are swanning around with her phone, and that there would be an investigation...but not the sort of investigation he talks about. Scott seems to have an allergy to the word "police".



ETA another quote -

"Concluding her summing up, Judge McGowan said; “Stop and ask yourself as you go through the evidence; What would have happened if Bernadette had walked through the door at that point. Her parents would have been expecting it to happen later on Saturday (July 18), or the next day, or the next.”

 

[Scorpiette]

Hoping justice will be served! It's a shame SW couldn't be charged with joint enterprise imo. Thanks to everyone who has posted updates in this thread!

If ScW is found guilty of murder, will it then be possible for SaW to then be charged with joint Enterprise? I wonder if that's what the CPS was thinking...

 

[Tortoise]

When SaW messages Luke asking if Bea is still with him, he replies -No, she never was. The messages then shift to Chloe - the friend who lives in a farm out in the Fens. scW and SaW then make the trip to Crowland where they turn Bea’s phone on and send messages.

I wonder if Scott told Bee he was taking her to her friend's as he drove out east. He could have lied and said Sarah had messaged her and agreed it.

 

[Tortoise]

If ScW is found guilty of murder, will it then be possible for SaW to then be charged with joint Enterprise? I wonder if that's what the CPS was thinking...

I don't know, but dropping the murder charge was a dumb decision. It's not justice for Bernadette, or her siblings continually being misled. I don't agree there's not enough evidence, it's all circumstantial and the jury could easily decide the strength of it while they had Scott in court to help them decide if they were working together and if he had Sarah's consent and agreement not to dob him in before he did it. There isn't an explanation for him telling her afterwards and her helping him cover it up. The coercion defence just doesn't work when we know she didn't want him out of the house.

All through the trial he has pointed to doing things because it was Sarah's idea. Which is not to excuse him for murdering, but to show who was the brains behind the cover up and that the cover up couldn't have worked without her. He could have been arrested for murder on day one if that was Sarah's desire. Or on day 30. Whenever she chose. She's still not giving evidence against him when he's on trial for murder.

The judge highlighted all the examples -

Per MIdge's report :

SaW deceiving Chris about the baby being in hospital for a week 'This she said was a clear illustration of the two of them working together, of ScW joining in SaW’s deception.

SaW deceiving friends that she had a solicitor to get Scott out of the house

SaW deceiving Bee that she was at the police station with Scott "Another example of them working together and ScW joining in with SaW’s deception."


Other examples from trial reports -

SaW deceiving Chris that Scott was not moving out because he had a court order.

SaW deceiving Chris until after she was arrested and charged that the messages were sent by Bee

ScW sending the text to Sarah while she was at her friend's house to help SaW because she had been caught on CCTV with Bee's phone - to misdirect a police investigation

SaW deceiving the friend who witnessed her receiving the text

SaW deceiving Bee's friends with texts pretending to be her

SaW phoning police with false information about Bee's disappearance

SaW making internet searches to misdirect a police investigation she knows is going to happen because she knows Bee isn't coming back.

 

[Tortoise]

[URL='https://twitter.com/PTstephenB']Stephen Briggs
@PTstephenB[/URL]
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In theory, the jury in the Bernadette Walker murder trial will go out to consider their verdicts at around lunchtime today. Obviously, it is impossible to say how long they will take - they have been told they will have as much time as they need to reach their verdicts.

 

[Sooty]

This has been a fascinating case to follow - still so many unanswered questions, some of which (relating to character of the defendants and wider family dynamics) are likely to be answered I’m sure post trial by the MSM.

SW is likely to achieve the ‘fame’ she so clearly desired.

I hope my confidence in the jury finding guilty on all charges is borne out.

I have no doubt that this case has been mentally exhausting to follow, together with the responsibility that they have to see justice served. I will be on the edge of the seat until we hear!

 

[Invisibletotheeye]

@MIdge28 I haven't had time to comment much on this thread, but I have been checking in and am so grateful to you for your report. From the press alone, I had a sinking feeling that there just wasn't enough evidence and it may hang on a thread regards the Jury's verdict- however, your reports have made it clear that there has been way more information given to the jury than has been reported through PT.
It also is interesting to see the way the judge has presented the summing up, as it does feel she is making it clear that there are massive gaps in the defence.
I am not a religious person at all, but last night I prayed for justice for BW. I am comforted by something that was posted a while back on here, to the effect that if we have an overwhelming sense of Guilty verdict that is likely the jury will too. I just hope this is correct and that the sentencing will be worthy. These two have definitely demonstrated they are complicit and have gone out of their way to obstruct the law in finding the truth.

On another note- supposing the worst case scenario that ScW isn't convicted- can he be brought to trial again if the police were to find new evidence, or to find a body?

Lets hope that doesn't happen!

 

[Alyce]

@MIdge28 I haven't had time to comment much on this thread, but I have been checking in and am so grateful to you for your report. From the press alone, I had a sinking feeling that there just wasn't enough evidence and it may hang on a thread regards the Jury's verdict- however, your reports have made it clear that there has been way more information given to the jury than has been reported through PT.
It also is interesting to see the way the judge has presented the summing up, as it does feel she is making it clear that there are massive gaps in the defence.
I am not a religious person at all, but last night I prayed for justice for BW. I am comforted by something that was posted a while back on here, to the effect that if we have an overwhelming sense of Guilty verdict that is likely the jury will too. I just hope this is correct and that the sentencing will be worthy. These two have definitely demonstrated they are complicit and have gone out of their way to obstruct the law in finding the truth.

On another note- supposing the worst case scenario that ScW isn't convicted- can he be brought to trial again if the police were to find new evidence, or to find a body?

Lets hope that doesn't happen!

I think many of us join you in praying for justice for Bernadette. She was let down by so many people during her short lifetime. I have faith that the Jury will find them both guilty on all charges.
The only disappointing part is that Sarah will not receive the sentence she deserves. We can only hope the besotted Scw has time to reflect during his many years in prison and decides to reveal a few more details about her involvement in her daughter's murder.

 

[CSIAngus]

I don't know, but dropping the murder charge was a dumb decision. It's not justice for Bernadette, or her siblings continually being misled. I don't agree there's not enough evidence, it's all circumstantial and the jury could easily decide the strength of it while they had Scott in court to help them decide if they were working together and if he had Sarah's consent and agreement not to dob him in before he did it. There isn't an explanation for him telling her afterwards and her helping him cover it up. The coercion defence just doesn't work when we know she didn't want him out of the house.

All through the trial he has pointed to doing things because it was Sarah's idea. Which is not to excuse him for murdering, but to show who was the brains behind the cover up and that the cover up couldn't have worked without her. He could have been arrested for murder on day one if that was Sarah's desire. Or on day 30. Whenever she chose. She's still not giving evidence against him when he's on trial for murder.

The judge highlighted all the examples -

Per MIdge's report :

SaW deceiving Chris about the baby being in hospital for a week 'This she said was a clear illustration of the two of them working together, of ScW joining in SaW’s deception.

SaW deceiving friends that she had a solicitor to get Scott out of the house

SaW deceiving Bee that she was at the police station with Scott "Another example of them working together and ScW joining in with SaW’s deception."


Other examples from trial reports -

SaW deceiving Chris that Scott was not moving out because he had a court order.

SaW deceiving Chris until after she was arrested and charged that the messages were sent by Bee

ScW sending the text to Sarah while she was at her friend's house to help SaW because she had been caught on CCTV with Bee's phone - to misdirect a police investigation

SaW deceiving the friend who witnessed her receiving the text

SaW deceiving Bee's friends with texts pretending to be her

SaW phoning police with false information about Bee's disappearance

SaW making internet searches to misdirect a police investigation she knows is going to happen because she knows Bee isn't coming back.

I agree with all of that. Going back to the 9 minute phone call. If she had run off, it would be a quick call to say she'd gone off and he was either going to spend time looking for her or come home. He's clearly talking about what he has just done and SaW is clearly not devastated with him saying "Bernie's dead". Now that we know the level of deciet and common action between them, I am certain that he would not have acted without SaW's knowledge which explains why she participated in the cover up. Any other scenario and a normal person would go to the police, especially if she did want rid of him. I can also believe that SaW knew about the sexual abuse and did not intervene, which again explains her reaction to BW's claim.

 

[CuriosDoll]

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Hi MIdge28

Thank you for the report yesterday, your reporting skills are amazing.

Curios to know have the jury retired yet?

Also I'm probably confused, finding it difficult to work out if ScW is the natural father of Bernadette and the other children. As there seems to be little mention of any Maternal family or any other paternal relations apart from ScW parents.

Sorry I stumbled across this case via my sister who lives not so far from the area concerned and she remarked on the poor reporting on the disappearance of a young girl. She directed me here and I've tried to read through all the threads without asking questions.

Fingers crossed Bernadette and her family who aren't involved get the justice they deserve.

 

[Tortoise]

Stephen Briggs

@PTstephenB
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The jury in the Bernadette Walker Murder Trial have left court to start their deliberations.

 

[Mercsw]

Maybe ScW used the McDonald's toilet facilities? To wash his hands of DNA/blood etc..

it would be a weird choice…it’s essentially the local police canteen! It’s not unusual to see 4 or 5 cars in their car park and the rear 3 tables are often entirely police officers.

 

[SpursGyal]

I’m glad the jury are now out. Fingers crossed for swift verdicts.

 

[Mercsw]

So whats your take in how it actually happened?

I think it was pre planned when she was sent to grandparents house. I think their lack of shock and comments mean they sort of were in on it too. Controversial but my opinion. They were changing passwords and sending messages before she’s even missing!

he turns up, and the plan kicks into action. He’s killed her away from the car during the 400 steps and then phoned mum. I thought the cowbit trip was to cover up better, but now I suspect it’s to lead a false trail to her friend in crowland. That means he ditched the body near to where he killed her, and we just haven’t found it yet. The kings lynn trip after the police are involved, who knows. The photos he deleted whilst the police watched, again who knows.

what I do know is their defence and weak story holds no water. It’s a farce

 

[SpursGyal]

If any of Beas family wished to read our discussions here they are able to find them themselves. Posting them all over their wall is totally out of order, it’s not what we are here for.